Orlando Buffalo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Did you look at the total raw numbers in the ABSTRACT Are the numbers the same on the abstract as the table? I am doing this on my phone and the columns don't stay lined up in the abstract. If the abstract has different numbers then the table then the table is a straight lie, if they are the same then I am correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Are the numbers the same on the abstract as the table? I am doing this on my phone and the columns don't stay lined up in the abstract. If the abstract has different numbers then the table then the table is a straight lie, if they are the same then I am correct. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to show why "doing your own research" is a very bad idea. btw, there are no columns in the abstract. OOPS! Edited July 25, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris farley said: “There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” https://venngage.com/blog/misleading-graphs/ is a real basic explanation. https://ecampusontario.pressbooks.pub/bio16610w18/chapter/how-graph-misrepresents-data/ "Truncated graph" "This is the most common way of data manipulation. A truncated graph usually involves manipulation of the axis to make something not significant at all look like a huge difference." Do you mean this line? "Across the 854 urban areas in Europe, we estimated an annual excess of 203 620 (empirical 95% CI 180 882–224 613) deaths attributed to cold and 20 173 (17 261–22 934) attributed to heat" which is more than 10:1 ratio? Or is there something else? Seriously where did you get 3:1? I had assumed you meant the tables inside the report since NOTHING shows a 3:1 ratio as you claimed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Do you mean this line? "Across the 854 urban areas in Europe, we estimated an annual excess of 203 620 (empirical 95% CI 180 882–224 613) deaths attributed to cold and 20 173 (17 261–22 934) attributed to heat" which is more than 10:1 ratio? Or is there something else? Seriously where did you get 3:1? I had assumed you meant the tables inside the report since NOTHING shows a 3:1 ratio as you claimed. I just noticed the chart was misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Buffalo Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. It was 3:1. You’re an idiot. U teach stats. God help your students Where did the 3:1 number come from? I am honestly trying to figure that part out, I said 10:1 based on the overall numbers and you called me an idiot, where did the 3:1 come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Do you mean this line? "Across the 854 urban areas in Europe, we estimated an annual excess of 203 620 (empirical 95% CI 180 882–224 613) deaths attributed to cold and 20 173 (17 261–22 934) attributed to heat" which is more than 10:1 ratio? Or is there something else? Seriously where did you get 3:1? I had assumed you meant the tables inside the report since NOTHING shows a 3:1 ratio as you claimed. 203,620/20,173 is greater than 10:1. Maybe with new math it's 3:1 (not that a threefold higher incidence of cold versus heat deaths isn't still significant). Edited July 25, 2023 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: This is how ABC news positioned the story: Republicans on the committee have long claimed that President Biden was more involved in his son's business dealings than he has disclosed -- and Monday's interview with Archer will likely be the latest attempt for Republicans to back up those claims. During his 2020 campaign Biden told reporters, "I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else, anything having to do with their businesses." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: I am not digging- the cold deaths in Croatia is listed at more than 150 the hot deaths is less than 40, how the hell is that not greater than 3:1? And that is the smallest ratio. Ireland is more than 150 for cold and looks like 3 for hot, how are you getting a 3:1 ratio overall? Eating major crow. You are correct. I'm slipping...But kudos for not yielding. I like your spunk kid! Edited July 25, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Eating major crow. You are correct. I'm slipping...But kudos for not yielding. I like your spunk kid! You must feel like a real dumbass after the way you carried on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, JDHillFan said: You must feel like a real dumbass after the way you carried on. Piling on...Mea culpa, Mea culpa, Mea maxima Culpa. Tear me a new one. Your one and only chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Your one and only chance. Today. Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Today. Maybe. Not enough coffee or maybe too many ciders last night, and there are all these things, all these things running round my head...I keed. Well, there kinda are but not in a strange way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: these things running round my head... Something other than MAGA? Liar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Something other than MAGA? Liar. Good shot...try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 12 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Nope. It was 3:1. You’re an idiot. U teach stats. God help your students Just wanted to bump this. An absolute classic self-own. The name calling and MAGA referencing throughout the numerous erroneous posts really put it over the top. Delightful! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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