WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Capitol Rioter's Attorney Calls Him 'Dumb***' Who Believed 'What He Heard on Fox News' (newsweek.com) der-t-der Capital rioters believe Fox and sketchy social media "reports" "Attorneys have told Newsweek that the "blame Trump" defense isn't a strong one because in a trial, defendants will be held accountable for their own actions. Joseph Hurley, Antonio's lawyer, acknowledged to the Associated Press that misinformation is also "not a defense." "But it will be brought up to say: This is why he was here. The reason he was there is because he was a dumb*** and believed what he heard on Fox News," Hurley said." 1 1
Unforgiven Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) maybe he's as dull as you guys Edited June 9, 2021 by Unforgiven 1
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Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 He heard on Fox News...to break into the Capitol? LOL! Yeah, OK.
WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: He heard on Fox News...to break into the Capitol? LOL! Yeah, OK. You're being obtuse. Not sure if it is purposeful ignorance that folks use to shield their brains from harsh truths or the subconscious variety. No, OK. He heard on Fox "news" a barrage of far-fetched and ridiculous election fraud lies and conspiracies designed to wind up the dumb and went along with all the rest of the slow-blinkers in their "stop-the-steal" nonsense to its obvious conclusion in DC - violence and deaths at the gates and halls of our nation's capital and Trump's undignified exit from office. Predictable. Then Fox was sued by voting machine companies because Fox was peddling the same baseless election fraud rabble-rousing nonsense that could not find any purchase in court because when you make ***** up you tend to not have things like.... "evidence". The facts are that the courts (more than a few led by Trump appointees) dismissed over 50 lawsuits brought by Trump and his allies for lack of said "evidence". The Supreme Court smacked it down and Independent election security officials (many from GOP ranks) claim it was the most secure in American history. After the insurrection in DC Murdock and Fox distanced themselves from Trump...Dobbs' show was canceled. Now with ratings falling and with spineless GOP collective amnesia (regarding their party and Trump's culpability fomenting the insurrection) on full display they are moving back to their usual nonsense. The lone exception at Fox in my book is Wallace who actually has some journalistic integrity. I actually enjoy watching him grill slimey politicians from either side of the aisle.
Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: You're being obtuse. Not sure if it is purposeful ignorance that folks use to shield their brains from harsh truths or the subconscious variety. No, OK. He heard on Fox "news" a barrage of far-fetched and ridiculous election fraud lies and conspiracies designed to wind up the dumb and went along with all the rest of the slow-blinkers in their "stop-the-steal" nonsense to its obvious conclusion in DC - violence and deaths at the gates and halls of our nation's capital and Trump's undignified exit from office. Predictable. Then Fox was sued by voting machine companies because Fox was peddling the same baseless election fraud rabble-rousing nonsense that could not find any purchase in court because when you make ***** up you tend to not have things like.... "evidence". The facts are that the courts (more than a few led by Trump appointees) dismissed over 50 lawsuits brought by Trump and his allies for lack of said "evidence". The Supreme Court smacked it down and Independent election security officials (many from GOP ranks) claim it was the most secure in American history. After the insurrection in DC Murdock and Fox distanced themselves from Trump...Dobbs' show was canceled. Now with ratings falling and with spineless GOP collective amnesia (regarding their party and Trump's culpability fomenting the insurrection) on full display they are moving back to their usual nonsense. The lone exception at Fox in my book is Wallace who actually has some journalistic integrity. I actually enjoy watching him grill slimey politicians from either side of the aisle. Obtuse. LOL! Did rioters last year blame CNN for their actions? Oh wait, no, hardly anyone was arrested and many who were were bailed-out by the Left. So spare me. What these morons did by entering the Capitol is on them and them alone. 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Obtuse. LOL! Did rioters last year blame CNN for their actions? Oh wait, no, hardly anyone was arrested and many who were were bailed-out by the Left. So spare me. What these morons did by entering the Capitol is on them and them alone. How dare you act like adults should be responsible for their own actions and that society is not to blame! This lawyer reminds of "affluenza" lawyer, some excuse for my client being too dumb to left to his own devices.
WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Doc said: Obtuse. LOL! Did rioters last year blame CNN for their actions? Oh wait, no, hardly anyone was arrested and many who were were bailed-out by the Left. So spare me. What these morons did by entering the Capitol is on them and them alone. They should, as I believe CNN is just as culpable peddling divisive sensationalism rather than journalism too. But being dumb and easily swayed by distorted "truths" is a common thing in the US and apparently not a valid defense for doing stupid ***** in court. And this great nation also likes to toss guns at the dumb and mentally ill for fun to see how they responsibly use their rights. If you are looking for a far-left rioting sympathizer here, you are not going to find one. There are state laws against rioting and there are federal laws against bashing down the doors of Congress and trying to overturn our government. Both illegal, both punishable, but one is on an exponentially different level of stupid. Edited June 9, 2021 by WideNine
Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, WideNine said: They should, as I believe CNN is just as culpable peddling divisive sensationalism rather than journalism too. But being dumb and easily swayed by distorted "truths" is a common thing in the US and apparently not a valid defense for doing stupid ***** in court. And this great nation also likes to toss guns at the dumb and mentally ill for fun to see how they responsibly use their rights. If you are looking for a far-left rioting sympathizer here, you are not going to find one. There are state laws against rioting and there are federal laws against bashing down the doors of Congress and trying to overturn our government. Both illegal, both punishable, but one is on an exponentially different level of stupid. Any idiot can claim he/she was influenced by someone else to avoid responsibility. That doesn't mean who they're blaming actually has blame. Doesn't matter if it's left or right.
WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: How dare you act like adults should be responsible for their own actions and that society is not to blame! This lawyer reminds of "affluenza" lawyer, some excuse for my client being too dumb to left to his own devices. Good point. Begs the question though... has Trump or any of the "adults" in the GOP taken any responsibility for their own actions leading up to the insurrection?
BillStime Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Any idiot can claim he/she was influenced by someone else to avoid responsibility. That doesn't mean who they're blaming actually has blame. Doesn't matter if it's left or right. Except when it comes from Fauci...
SoCal Deek Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: Good point. Begs the question though... has Trump or any of the "adults" in the GOP taken any responsibility for their own actions leading up to the insurrection? I assume you mean taking responsibility for the 'action' of daring to run for re-election?
Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Except when it comes from Fauci... Fauci is the expert on infectious diseases. Not Trump.
WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Any idiot can claim he/she was influenced by someone else to avoid responsibility. That doesn't mean who they're blaming actually has blame. Doesn't matter if it's left or right. On this we can agree, but knowing there are idiots out there that may take stupid or violent actions based on the false or distorted information you knowingly publish does make you culpable; although 1st amendment rights seem to stretch a long ways to cover slander and libel before settling into defamation.
BillStime Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: Fauci is the expert on infectious diseases. Not Trump.
WideNine Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Except when it comes from Fauci... What is it with you guys and Fauci? but...but in March he said masks don't work. Over a a year later bombshell... in March he said masks don't work. Probably not a one of you have ever read the 20 year old guidance on how viruses can spread as an aerosol or how Covid-19 upended that standard. Covid-19 is a Novel Coronavirus. Do you know what that means? What does “novel” mean in medicine and virology? The word “novel” originated from the Latin word “novus,” which means “new.” In medicine, “novel” usually refers to a virus or bacterial strain that was not previously identified. COVID-19 is a new disease, caused by the novel, or new, coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 that was not previously seen in humans. Doctors go with precedent till new information becomes available, that is a core practice for medical guidance and FDA approvals. It is dumb to keep beating this drum, and blaming a guy who was working with limited knowledge and changing guidance as more was discovered about how the virus spread, it's morphology, and its lethality. It was recently discovered that Covid-19 attacks juvenile red blood cells, our adult red blood cells only live for about 120 days, this attack by Covid caused the body to produce more juvenile red blood cells. What did that mean? Well juvenile red blood cells cannot efficiently carry oxygen and they suppress the immune system. This specific way that Covid attacks individuals explained why doctors were seeing patients dying of hypoxemia even when being given oxygen. A new discovery just this past month for a novel virus that will lead to different guidance and protocols. I know, the science and facts will make your brain explode 😂
BillStime Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, WideNine said: What is it with you guys and Fauci? but...but in March he said masks don't work. Over a a year later bombshell... in March he said masks don't work. Probably not a one of you have ever read the 20 year old guidance on how viruses can spread as an aerosol or how Covid-19 upended that standard. Covid-19 is a Novel Coronavirus. Do you know what that means? What does “novel” mean in medicine and virology? The word “novel” originated from the Latin word “novus,” which means “new.” In medicine, “novel” usually refers to a virus or bacterial strain that was not previously identified. COVID-19 is a new disease, caused by the novel, or new, coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 that was not previously seen in humans. Doctors go with precedent till new information becomes available, that is a core practice for medical guidance and FDA approvals. It is dumb to keep beating this drum, and blaming a guy who was working with limited knowledge and changing guidance as more was discovered about how the virus spread, it's morphology, and its lethality. It was recently discovered that Covid-19 attacks juvenile red blood cells, our adult red blood cells only live for about 120 days, this attack by Covid caused the body to produce more juvenile red blood cells. What did that mean? Well juvenile red blood cells cannot efficiently carry oxygen and they suppress the immune system. This specific way that Covid attacks individuals explained why doctors were seeing patients dying of hypoxemia even when being given oxygen. A new discovery just this past month for a novel virus that will lead to different guidance and protocols. I know, the science and facts will make your brain explode 😂 I have no issues with Fauci and understand science. I was just referring to Doc’s hypocrisy.
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, WideNine said: What is it with you guys and Fauci? but...but in March he said masks don't work. Over a a year later bombshell... in March he said masks don't work. Probably not a one of you have ever read the 20 year old guidance on how viruses can spread as an aerosol or how Covid-19 upended that standard. Covid-19 is a Novel Coronavirus. Do you know what that means? What does “novel” mean in medicine and virology? The word “novel” originated from the Latin word “novus,” which means “new.” In medicine, “novel” usually refers to a virus or bacterial strain that was not previously identified. COVID-19 is a new disease, caused by the novel, or new, coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 that was not previously seen in humans. Doctors go with precedent till new information becomes available, that is a core practice for medical guidance and FDA approvals. It is dumb to keep beating this drum, and blaming a guy who was working with limited knowledge and changing guidance as more was discovered about how the virus spread, it's morphology, and its lethality. It was recently discovered that Covid-19 attacks juvenile red blood cells, our adult red blood cells only live for about 120 days, this attack by Covid caused the body to produce more juvenile red blood cells. What did that mean? Well juvenile red blood cells cannot efficiently carry oxygen and they suppress the immune system. This specific way that Covid attacks individuals explained why doctors were seeing patients dying of hypoxemia even when being given oxygen. A new discovery just this past month for a novel virus that will lead to different guidance and protocols. I know, the science and facts will make your brain explode 😂 Fauci knew we were doing Sars research inside that lab and lied about until he was forced to admit by Rand Paul. Fauci is more politician than scientist at this point and while it was a new situation he was not upfront about it from the get go. What is it with you defending a guy who knowing that a lab had issues with security and leaks would do research on Sars there?
Doc Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: 1 hour ago, BillStime said: I have no issues with Fauci and understand science. I was just referring to Doc’s hypocrisy. There's no hypocrisy. Again, Fauci is the expert, not Trump. And Fauci said that Trump listened to him. Therefore...
BillStime Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: There's no hypocrisy. Again, Fauci is the expert, not Trump. And Fauci said that Trump listened to him. Therefore... Any idiot can claim he/she was influenced by someone else to avoid responsibility. That doesn't mean who they're blaming actually has blame.
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