Tenhigh Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) On 12/22/2021 at 5:42 PM, BillStime said: ☝️🤡 is a pawn - lmao More fake news for the idiots to focus on while their party descends in fascism. Secretive ‘dark money’ network launches anti-critical race theory campaign POLITICS Business executives and wealthy Republican donors helped fund attacks on critical race theory during campaigns The Radical Capitalist Behind the Critical Race Theory Furor LMAO Billsy. For once we completely agree. Edited December 24, 2021 by Tenhigh 1 1 1
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 This topic is laughable. Roughly 19% of high school graduates have trouble reading and nearly 30% lack basic math skills. Nationally, the graduate rate of black's lags whites by 10%. Most high school graduates can't balance a physical or electronic check book. Roughly 30% don't have a driver's license. Tell me how some BS CRT course is going to help any of those more important issues? This is another boondoggle by the NEA and other teachers' unions to teach an "ungradable" subject. Another BS subject that teachers can't be judged upon based on the performance of the students. Another BS subject with no real-life skills or value. The only reason CRT is getting traction is because with the pandemic, schools are failing even further. The NEA and the D's (their political cover) are using this to divert attention away from their falling student scores and incompetent teaching. 2 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Precision said: This topic is laughable. Roughly 19% of high school graduates have trouble reading and nearly 30% lack basic math skills. Nationally, the graduate rate of black's lags whites by 10%. Most high school graduates can't balance a physical or electronic check book. Roughly 30% don't have a driver's license. Tell me how some BS CRT course is going to help any of those more important issues? This is another boondoggle by the NEA and other teachers' unions to teach an "ungradable" subject. Another BS subject that teachers can't be judged upon based on the performance of the students. Another BS subject with no real-life skills or value. The only reason CRT is getting traction is because with the pandemic, schools are failing even further. The NEA and the D's (their political cover) are using this to divert attention away from their falling student scores and incompetent teaching. Well said, but unfortunately only part of it. The underlying premise behind ALL of this (you may recall “you didn’t build that” and “it takes a village”) is to get American kids thinking they don’t deserve to either be ahead, get ahead, or stay ahead. Once you get an entire generation shaped into that mindset it’s pretty easy to convince them to throw ALL of their earnings in the middle of the table and let ‘society’ redistribute those accomplishments with each receiving according to their needs. At it’s core this is pure Marxism. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: Follow the money - and it has NOTHING to do with the NEA or D's... idiots. Let me guess Hillary….it’s DONALD J TRUMP! Was I close?
BillStime Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Let me guess Hillary….it’s DONALD J TRUMP! Was I close? CRT has been around for 45+ years... the right can't survive on its own unless they find a way to divide... hence, look at this new boondoggle. IDIOTS
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Precision said: This topic is laughable. Roughly 19% of high school graduates have trouble reading and nearly 30% lack basic math skills. Nationally, the graduate rate of black's lags whites by 10%. Most high school graduates can't balance a physical or electronic check book. Roughly 30% don't have a driver's license. Tell me how some BS CRT course is going to help any of those more important issues? This is another boondoggle by the NEA and other teachers' unions to teach an "ungradable" subject. Another BS subject that teachers can't be judged upon based on the performance of the students. Another BS subject with no real-life skills or value. The only reason CRT is getting traction is because with the pandemic, schools are failing even further. The NEA and the D's (their political cover) are using this to divert attention away from their falling student scores and incompetent teaching. This is an Excellent point. Failing at educating your students? It’s not your fault your school is terrible, your teaching is terrible or your student engagement is terrible, it’s this imaginary ‘system’ conspiring against your students because of their complexion. Want to find the problem? Normalize outcomes to just the groups with single parent households… guess what??? Race disparity vanishes. A strong family and culture of family values matter. No nanny state idealism based on obfuscation and false equivalencies will ever make this untrue. 2 1
T master Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: CRT has been around for 45+ years... the right can't survive on its own unless they find a way to divide... hence, look at this new boondoggle. IDIOTS Maybe it has been around for 45 yrs but that still doesn't make it right true or correct in any way & it in and of itself is a divisional way of teaching ! To add if you think the only side that uses this is the right your a fool what about all those libs from the left in liberal run cities that were calling riots - "peaceful protests" in the name of BLM that is in no way divisive ? CRT just in its thought & presentation is racist in it's teaching because it leaves out the part in the beginning of black leaders selling other black people yet blaming it all on white people which is a lie !! And i have had conversations with black people of my age group & older that i work with and are great people that admit although racism does still exist today have told me "the young black people today don't have a clue of what true racism is like i lived through it in the 60's the kids today think they have it so rough & they don't have a clue what racism is truly like i lived it" That was a exact quote from a co worker of mine he said as far as today it is so much better than it has ever been he did say which i agree there is & always will be more work to be done in that respect but comparatively speaking and by teaching CRT all's they are doing is continuing to drive a wedge between people which is the plan ! We would be stronger together than we ever would be divided and that's the way they like & want it to be both conservatives, liberals, republican & democrats weather you think so or not want it that way & we the people are to stupid to see it ... 2 hours ago, Precision said: This topic is laughable. Roughly 19% of high school graduates have trouble reading and nearly 30% lack basic math skills. Nationally, the graduate rate of black's lags whites by 10%. Most high school graduates can't balance a physical or electronic check book. Roughly 30% don't have a driver's license. Tell me how some BS CRT course is going to help any of those more important issues? This is another boondoggle by the NEA and other teachers' unions to teach an "ungradable" subject. Another BS subject that teachers can't be judged upon based on the performance of the students. Another BS subject with no real-life skills or value. The only reason CRT is getting traction is because with the pandemic, schools are failing even further. The NEA and the D's (their political cover) are using this to divert attention away from their falling student scores and incompetent teaching. That's what you get from federally funded school systems they teach mostly junk and stuff you will never use in real life situations . I never knew it until i was older but the curriculum is a joke in the schools today . Well put my friend i agree 100% !! 1
BillStime Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, T master said: Maybe it has been around for 45 yrs but that still doesn't make it right true or correct in any way & it in and of itself is a divisional way of teaching ! To add if you think the only side that uses this is the right your a fool what about all those libs from the left in liberal run cities that were calling riots - "peaceful protests" in the name of BLM that is in no way divisive ? CRT just in its thought & presentation is racist in it's teaching because it leaves out the part in the beginning of black leaders selling other black people yet blaming it all on white people which is a lie !! And i have had conversations with black people of my age group & older that i work with and are great people that admit although racism does still exist today have told me "the young black people today don't have a clue of what true racism is like i lived through it in the 60's the kids today think they have it so rough & they don't have a clue what racism is truly like i lived it" That was a exact quote from a co worker of mine he said as far as today it is so much better than it has ever been he did say which i agree there is & always will be more work to be done in that respect but comparatively speaking and by teaching CRT all's they are doing is continuing to drive a wedge between people which is the plan ! We would be stronger together than we ever would be divided and that's the way they like & want it to be both conservatives, liberals, republican & democrats weather you think so or not want it that way & we the people are to stupid to see it ... That's what you get from federally funded school systems they teach mostly junk and stuff you will never use in real life situations . I never knew it until i was older but the curriculum is a joke in the schools today . Well put my friend i agree 100% !! It's all fake news. FAKE FAKE FAKE The right now wants to dictate what/how history can be taught because they realize history does not favor the GQP... Also, we must sugarcoat our history but don't you dare touch those confederate statues, right? CRT, Voting laws, LGTBQ, guns = it's the GQP way or nothing.
T master Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: It's all fake news. FAKE FAKE FAKE The right now wants to dictate what/how history can be taught because they realize history does not favor the GQP... Also, we must sugarcoat our history but don't you dare touch those confederate statues, right? CRT, Voting laws, LGTBQ, guns = it's the GQP way or nothing. So what you are saying here is that there never were any blacks that were sold by their own people into slavery only white people did that ? And slavery is in ALL due to only whites - that slavery occurred or exists only because of white people and that only whites today are the racists & that in no way shape or form that racism black towards white occurs or is present today ? And that there were never any cases of white people being slaves ever in history ? This entire thing is just whites disrespect for blacks ?
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Well said, but unfortunately only part of it. The underlying premise behind ALL of this (you may recall “you didn’t build that” and “it takes a village”) is to get American kids thinking they don’t deserve to either be ahead, get ahead, or stay ahead. Once you get an entire generation shaped into that mindset it’s pretty easy to convince them to throw ALL of their earnings in the middle of the table and let ‘society’ redistribute those accomplishments with each receiving according to their needs. At it’s core this is pure Marxism. I understand where you're coming from but personally, I am not worried about Marxism or the redistribution of wealth. Most in politics pushing this are intellectual lightweights. AOC, Sanders, Warren, etc are in their positions because they represent a district that votes D regardless of the incompetence of the individual they are voting for. If Kermit the Frog ran as a D in these districts he would win. IMO the country as a whole will not embrace this and the individuals pushing it aren't smart enough to make it happen. Additionally, most young people believe in "fairness". When they see peer's getting free rides at college due to their race or parents income level they don't like it. Ten years of indoctrination are easily overcome by a few months in the real world.
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: CRT has been around for 45+ years... the right can't survive on its own unless they find a way to divide... hence, look at this new boondoggle. IDIOTS Thank you for helping to prove my point. America's educational system failing for 45 years and counting! One in five coming out of school can't read. If you can't read; history doesn't matter, art doesn't matter, music doesn't matter, science doesn't matter, government studies don't matter, and CRT doesn't matter. If you cannot read, you are not prepared for the workforce. If you cannot read, you are not prepared for life. All these useless studies need to be flushed until the literacy rate and basic math skills are improved.
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Precision said: I understand where you're coming from but personally, I am not worried about Marxism or the redistribution of wealth. Most in politics pushing this are intellectual lightweights. AOC, Sanders, Warren, etc are in their positions because they represent a district that votes D regardless of the incompetence of the individual they are voting for. If Kermit the Frog ran as a D in these districts he would win. IMO the country as a whole will not embrace this and the individuals pushing it aren't smart enough to make it happen. Additionally, most young people believe in "fairness". When they see peer's getting free rides at college due to their race or parents income level they don't like it. Ten years of indoctrination are easily overcome by a few months in the real world. No offense intended but you better wake up. You’re thinking way too small about what’s really going on here. 1
BillStime Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Precision said: Thank you for helping to prove my point. America's educational system failing for 45 years and counting! One in five coming out of school can't read. If you can't read; history doesn't matter, art doesn't matter, music doesn't matter, science doesn't matter, government studies don't matter, and CRT doesn't matter. If you cannot read, you are not prepared for the workforce. If you cannot read, you are not prepared for life. All these useless studies need to be flushed until the literacy rate and basic math skills are improved. Red states have a lot of work to do States with the Best & Worst School Systems
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Red states have a lot of work to do States with the Best & Worst School Systems I'm in NH so not so much champ. 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: Red states have a lot of work to do States with the Best & Worst School Systems It’s literally impossible to be worse than California. 1
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s literally impossible to be worse than California. There are a lot of good people in CA and I honestly do feel bad for them. 1
Precision Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 Heading out for some family events. Hope all of you, even those I disagree with, have a safe and merry evening! P 1 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 25, 2021 Posted December 25, 2021 7 hours ago, BillStime said: Red states have a lot of work to do States with the Best & Worst School Systems "Unlike other research that focuses primarily on academic outcomes or school finance" That quote is from what linked to, meaning that actual success is less important than something else. I truly understand why we can't agree, I want me son to be able to take whatever classes he wants to and have success academically but you prefer to simply measure if the teacher has a doctorate in educational administration. 1
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