Critical Race Theory

[BillStime]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So what is your opinion of black slave owners in the US? Or are they not worth your discussion? 

 

Why would we want to sugar coat any of our history?

[SoCal Deek]

Wait! There was slavery in this country?? 
Why wasn’t this taught in every school in America??!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh yeah….it was

 

 

 

please go back to your ridiculous lives

[B-Man]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Why would we want to sugar coat any of our history?

 

 

To the board;

 

How many times have people told the usual suspects here that NO ONE wants to deny any of the evil in our past.

 

But they keep repeating the same false premise.

 

That is NOT what Critical Race theory does.........

 

It puts everything thru a false liberal filter, ALL subjects.

 

So that children of today are purposely split into their own camps.

 

Average Americans are standing up to this indoctrination, and will continue to do so.........see 2022

 

[BillStime]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

To the board;

 

How many times have people told the usual suspects here that NO ONE wants to deny any of the evil in our past.

 

But they keep repeating the same false premise.

 

That is NOT what Critical Race theory does.........

 

It puts everything thru a false liberal filter, ALL subjects.

 

So that children of today are purposely split into their own camps.

 

Average Americans are standing up to this indoctrination, and will continue to do so.........see 2022

 

 

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Christopher Rufo: Florida v. Critical Race Theory. 

 

Yesterday, I accompanied Florida governor Ron DeSantis on an early-morning flight from Tallahassee to The Villages retirement community, where he was scheduled to deliver a policy address on critical race theory. During the flight, DeSantis reviewed talking points for his speech, edited communications materials, and, after the plane touched down, selected a red-and-blue sign that would hang on the podium: “STOP WOKE ACT.”

 

DeSantis warmed up the crowd of approximately 100 people at Ezell Regional Recreation Center and outlined the “Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act,” which would ban critical-race-theory indoctrination in public schools, prohibit racially abusive training programs in the workplace, and provide parents and workers the right to sue institutions that violate these prohibitions.

 

The governor framed the rise of critical race theory as a mortal threat to the United States. “I think what you see now with the rise of this woke ideology is an attempt to really delegitimize our history and to delegitimize our institutions,” he said. “And they basically want to replace it with a very militant form of leftism that would absolutely destroy this country.”

 

As illustrations of critical race theory in American institutions, DeSantis cited seven of my reports for City Journal: Arizona claiming that babies are racist; Santa Clara County denouncing the United States as a “parasitic system”; Philadelphia teaching students to celebrate “Black communism”; San Diego telling teachers “you are racist”; Bank of America teaching that the United States is a “system of white supremacy”; Verizon teaching that America is fundamentally racist; and Google teaching that all Americans are “raised to be racist.”

 

 

Read the whole thing.

 

 

Multiple links at the original article: https://www.city-journal.org/florida-v-critical-race-theory?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Organic_Social

 

 

 

 

Fake News Bonnie

[BillStime]

lmao

 

 

[reddogblitz]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

lmao

 

 

 

How much do you think Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo are making off of this $tuff?

[Tiberius]

13 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So what is your opinion of black slave owners in the US? Or are they not worth your discussion? 

No opinion. But it is an interesting fact. They owned other black people, formed regiments to fight for the south at first, until  Admiral Farragut sailed his fleet into New Orleans and forced its surrender, then they switched sides and fought very bravely for the Union. 

 

Homer Plessy was part of this black population whose community had owned slaves. Didn’t help him under Jim Crow though, he was still assigned to second class citizenship. 

9 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

To the board;

 

How many times have people told the usual suspects here that NO ONE wants to deny any of the evil in our past.

 

But they keep repeating the same false premise.

 

That is NOT what Critical Race theory does.........

 

It puts everything thru a false liberal filter, ALL subjects.

 

So that children of today are purposely split into their own camps.

 

Average Americans are standing up to this indoctrination, and will continue to do so.........see 2022

 

Not sure about this, seems more like it’s designed to white wash the past using racism. 

[Tiberius]

15 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The thing is, CRT isn't all about the teaching of slavery in the South or the history of slavery.  Its about teaching a subjective interpretation that theorizes that White People are inherently evil as evidenced by slavery.  And that Blacks, once being enslaved in the US, are permanent members of the oppressed and victim class of people and that carries forward in its original form today.  

But the enslavement of Black Africans didn't start when White Europeans reached West Africa.  The enterprise of slavery existed for about 800 years before they arrived.  An enterprise managed by Arab slave traders and African kingdoms and tribes that captured and sold their fellow black Africans from competing tribes and kingdoms into slavery.  When the Europeans arrived in West Africa it signaled the opening of a new market for the slave trade which was already established. 

I'm all for teaching history but I suspect CRT advocates joyfully and selectively teaching racism and the evils of White people won't touch or discuss the subject of the complicity of Blacks in the enslavement of people of their own race and the moral and ethical questions surrounding that involvement.  Such an examination might lead to an objective conclusion that Blacks, and the Arab slavers, are no more or less moral or ethical than Whites when it comes to slavery.  And the idea that White people have a monopoly on racism and slavery is a completely false and intentionally inaccurate "history". 

But it isn’t all about slavery. It’s about how, for instance, our biggest and worst war was brought about by racism 

 

It’s also about how and why black Americans, who have been here longer than many other people, are largely living in poverty today. That’s a legacy of racism. All those people from Germany, Ireland, Italy, etc skipped to the front of the line for jobs. 

 

It also helps explain why the criminal criminal justice system has such issues with race. 

8 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Christopher Rufo: Florida v. Critical Race Theory. 

 

Yesterday, I accompanied Florida governor Ron DeSantis on an early-morning flight from Tallahassee to The Villages retirement community, where he was scheduled to deliver a policy address on critical race theory. During the flight, DeSantis reviewed talking points for his speech, edited communications materials, and, after the plane touched down, selected a red-and-blue sign that would hang on the podium: “STOP WOKE ACT.”

 

DeSantis warmed up the crowd of approximately 100 people at Ezell Regional Recreation Center and outlined the “Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act,” which would ban critical-race-theory indoctrination in public schools, prohibit racially abusive training programs in the workplace, and provide parents and workers the right to sue institutions that violate these prohibitions.

 

The governor framed the rise of critical race theory as a mortal threat to the United States. “I think what you see now with the rise of this woke ideology is an attempt to really delegitimize our history and to delegitimize our institutions,” he said. “And they basically want to replace it with a very militant form of leftism that would absolutely destroy this country.”

 

As illustrations of critical race theory in American institutions, DeSantis cited seven of my reports for City Journal: Arizona claiming that babies are racist; Santa Clara County denouncing the United States as a “parasitic system”; Philadelphia teaching students to celebrate “Black communism”; San Diego telling teachers “you are racist”; Bank of America teaching that the United States is a “system of white supremacy”; Verizon teaching that America is fundamentally racist; and Google teaching that all Americans are “raised to be racist.”

 

 

Read the whole thing.

 

 

Multiple links at the original article: https://www.city-journal.org/florida-v-critical-race-theory?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Organic_Social

 

 

 

There it is, Black people are a threat to the United States! 

 

Boy, that says it all right there. No wonder DeSantis, the racist, is fighting to keep black people from voting 8n Florida 

[SoCal Deek]

49 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But it isn’t all about slavery. It’s about how, for instance, our biggest and worst war was brought about by racism 

 

It’s also about how and why black Americans, who have been here longer than many other people, are largely living in poverty today. That’s a legacy of racism. All those people from Germany, Ireland, Italy, etc skipped to the front of the line for jobs. 

So in your victimhood world order view shouldn’t the freed slaves have left America to find a better society where they weren’t oppressed just like Germans, Irish, Italians did by coming to America to escape oppression in theirs?

[T master]

15 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Why would we want to sugar coat any of our history?

 

Exactly if your gong to tell the history of slavery you need to tell the entire story & not do what you normally do and cherry pick only the points you want to .

 

If they are going to tell the story of slavery tell them how the black tribal leaders were some of the ones that were selling black slaves to the white people & tell how there were also white slaves too & black slave owners  .

 

If your going to tell the story tell it in it's entirety not just the part to push forth the agenda which seems to be becoming the norm today ! I wish Paul Harvey was still around so he could tell "The Rest of The Story" Good day !! 

Edited December 23, 2021 by T master

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

So in your victimhood world order view shouldn’t the freed slaves have left America to find a better society where they weren’t oppressed just like Germans, Irish, Italians did by coming to America to escape oppression in theirs?

Oh, black people had to leave their homes? Ya, ok. 

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

Exactly if your gong to tell the history of slavery you need to tell the entire story & not do what you normally do and cherry pick only the points you want to .

 

If they are going to tell the story of slavery tell them how the black tribal leaders were some of the ones that were selling black slaves to the white people & tell how there were also white slaves too & black slave owners  .

 

If your going to tell the story tell it in it's entirety not just the part to push forth the agenda which seems to be becoming the norm today ! I wish Paul Harvey was still around so he could tell "The Rest of The Story" Good day !! 

How about just telling the story of how racism was used in politics? How Conservatives scapegoated blacks continuously to gain and keep political power? Jim Crow has a l9ng bloody history after slavery, can’t blame Africans for that, now can you? 

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But it isn’t all about slavery. It’s about how, for instance, our biggest and worst war was brought about by racism 

 

It’s also about how and why black Americans, who have been here longer than many other people, are largely living in poverty today. That’s a legacy of racism. All those people from Germany, Ireland, Italy, etc skipped to the front of the line for jobs. 

 

It also helps explain why the criminal criminal justice system has such issues with race. 

 

The poverty stats I saw from 2018 (a year I could find with lots of breakouts) suggests that 20.8% of Black Americans live in poverty.  So the belief that Black Americans live "largely in poverty" is false.  Native Americans (who have been here longer than anybody else) are at 25.4%.  Children at 16.2%, Seniors at 14.1%.  Asians the lowest at 10.1%.  Explain that.  Does the theory provide an exemption from White oppression and racism for this subset of the population?  

 

The single largest demographic living in poverty is women with children without a husband in the household at 25.7%.  Can you make a case that racism is the cause of that condition?

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The poverty stats I saw from 2018 (a year I could find with lots of breakouts) suggests that 20.8% of Black Americans live in poverty.  So the belief that Black Americans live "largely in poverty" is false.  Native Americans (who have been here longer than anybody else) are at 25.4%.  Children at 16.2%, Seniors at 14.1%.  Asians the lowest at 10.1%.  Explain that.  Does the theory provide an exemption from White oppression and racism for this subset of the population?  

 

The single largest demographic living in poverty is women with children without a husband in the household at 25.7%.  Can you make a case that racism is the cause of that condition?

Nice post! Yes, once the liberals got officially sanctioned racism made illegal Blacks and other groups have made very significant economic gains, still work to go, though. 

[B-Man]

 

 

The malicious, historically illiterate 1619 Project keeps rolling on.

 

The Times’s original splashy assertion — slightly fudged after the splash garnered a Pulitzer Prize — was that the American Revolution, the most important event in our history, was shameful because a primary reason it was fought was to preserve slavery. The war was supposedly ignited by a November 1775 British offer of freedom to Blacks who fled slavery and joined British forces. Well.

 

That offer came after increasingly volcanic American reactions to various British provocations: After the 1765 Stamp Act. After the 1770 Boston Massacre. After the 1773 Boston Tea Party. After the 1774 Coercive Acts (including closure of Boston’s port) and other events of “The Long Year of Revolution” (the subtitle of Mary Beth Norton’s “1774”). And after, in 1775, the April 17 battles of Lexington and Concord, the June 17 battle of Bunker Hill and George Washington on July 3 assuming command of the Continental Army.

 

Writing history is not like doing physics. But event A cannot have caused event B if B began before A.

 

Addressing the American Council of Trustees and Alumni last month, Gordon S. Wood, today’s foremost scholar of America’s Founding, dissected the 1619 Project’s contentions. When the Revolution erupted, Britain “was not threatening to abolish slavery in its empire,” which included lucrative, slavery-dependent sugar-producing colonies in the Caribbean. Wood added. . . .

 

The 1619 Project, which might already be embedded in school curricula near you, reinforces the racial monomania of those progressives who argue that the nation was founded on, and remains saturated by, “systemic racism.” This racial obsession is instrumental; it serves a radical agenda that sweeps beyond racial matters. It is the agenda of clearing away all impediments, intellectual and institutional, to — in progressivism’s vocabulary — the “transformation” of the nation. The United States will be built back better when it has been instructed to be ashamed of itself and is eager to discard its disreputable heritage.

 

The 1619 Project aims to erase (in Wood’s words) “the Revolution and the principles that it articulated — liberty, equality and the well-being of ordinary people.” These ideas are, as Wood says, the adhesives that bind our exceptional nation whose people have shared principles, not a shared ancestry.

 

 

 

Not if our ruling class has its way.

 

https://www.newsandsentinel.com/uncategorized/2021/12/the-malicious-historically-illiterate-1619-project-keeps-rolling-on/

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Critical Race Theory

 

Critical race theory (CRT) makes race the prism through which its proponents analyze all aspects of American life, categorizing individuals into groups of oppressors and victims.

 

It is a philosophy that is infecting everything from politics and education to the workplace and the military. 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.heritage.org/critical-race-theory

 

 

 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Critical Race Theory

 

Critical race theory (CRT) makes race the prism through which its proponents analyze all aspects of American life, categorizing individuals into groups of oppressors and victims.

 

It is a philosophy that is infecting everything from politics and education to the workplace and the military. 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.heritage.org/critical-race-theory

 

 

 

Love your passion for the topic Bonnie - can you take one instance in our history and provide us a side by side comparison how it is taught with and without a CRT lens? 

[SoCal Deek]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Love your passion for the topic Bonnie - can you take one instance in our history and provide us a side by side comparison how it is taught with and without a CRT lens? 

Like most things, this too is not complicated. (It certainly isn't 68 pages worth of complicated) In a nutshell, CRT is not a history class. It's someone's theory/opinion about why things are the way they are today.  If it was about teaching history it would be called......wait for it.....HISTORY CLASS! 

[T master]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, black people had to leave their homes? Ya, ok. 

How about just telling the story of how racism was used in politics? How Conservatives scapegoated blacks continuously to gain and keep political power? Jim Crow has a l9ng bloody history after slavery, can’t blame Africans for that, now can you? 

 

Well i would expect nothing less than you cherry picking for your agenda to try to make all white people look like they are racist which is not the truth at all .

 

My dad use to tell me that "if your going to do something half way don't bother to do it at all" and by doing what you are implying you are doing a half ass job of telling the story . Which in some respects i come to expect .

 

I would much rather have young people learn about slavery so the same thing doesn't come around ever again but it should be told in it's entirety that both Democrats & Republicans were part of slavery & also that blacks were sold by other blacks as well as whites .

 

Also that the person that started the KKK a white man was a supporter of the Democratic party Nathan Bedford Forest tell the hole story then the people can come to their own conclusions rather than cherry picking so they come to the conclusion you would like them to have rather than making up their own minds . That is CRT .

 

(And i didn't say that to say that the democrats agree'd with what Forest did but he was a democrat and also some were republicans)

 

That's all part of individualism & independence which comes from independent thought process not pre determined or cherry picked the process of the story to have the out come you would rather have which constitutes a agenda . 

 

I am white and grew up with a black man & his family that was around our family & i considered him a part of my family and will always have great memories of Mr. Frank as us youngsters called him & we were taught to respect him as all kids should do to their elders no matter their color .

 

That being said one time on my job in a different city i ran into 2 black fellas that were standing on a corner that at first glance having signs about Jesus Christ being our savior thought they were there to fellowship with other christians and spread the teachings of love & forgiveness of Jesus so i got excited & thought i might be able to learn something & boy did I .

 

After walking up & saying hey the man asked if i was a christian i reply'd yes - he asked did you know that jesus was black - I said i don't know i have never actually met him - then he said - do you know you need to pay for all the sins that your ancestors committed against his .

 

First that is a blanket racist statement meaning that ALL white people committed those atrocities which is a lie of the biggest kind and how did he know what my family lineage was he didn't !! He was taught to hate whites that is also racism the same as whites being taught to hate or think all blacks are bad it's pure & simple nothing more than ignorants at its best which is what CRT is trying to teach !! 

 

Then if you want to talk about the teaching of Jesus Christ it is all about Love and forgiveness of our sins this man was so filled with racist hate he completely missed every single thing that the bible teaches (talk about blasphemy) and is probably out there today doing the exact same thing and is a proponent of CRT .

 

As others here have said you can't stop racism with more racism (or teaching it) ! I was totally dum struck to think that some one could be that ignorant & not listen to what they were saying and understand exactly how backward thinking that was & realize how racist they were ! 

 

Yes there has been ignorant people through out the history of the world of all colors but the entire story needs to be told so we don't repeat the same thing over & over again & by your reply's it looks as if you suffer from the same type of thing and that's you prerogative but i will not allow my family members to be a part of trying to do away with racism by teaching more of it with out them knowing the entire story not just the piece that CRT wants told  ...

 

And will teach them that they need to respect all people regardless of their color and treat them as they expect to be treated and if they aren't treated with that respect walk away & pray for those people because they need it !!