Big Blitz Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 Does the CRT distraction make sense now as we begin to hear over the next month all the mitigation the schools will be doing indefinitely.... Libs will wrongly blame "systemic racism." Cons will gladly let the public schools continue to slit their own throat.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 10 hours ago, B-Man said: THAT’S BECAUSE IT’S 100% SOPHOMORICALLY POLITICAL bull####: Critical Race Theory has no idea what to do with Asian-Americans. By Kenny Xu https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/07/13/critical-race-theory-has-no-idea-what-to-do-with-asian-americans-n401905 . Apparently there is another even more damning demographic data set. Black Nigerian Americans especially those who closely identify traditional Nigerian cultural educational and family values are one of the most successful demographics in America. Anyone with any interest whatsoever in fixing anything about the current inequity along racial lines in America would be studying that pretty hard.
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Apparently there is another even more damning demographic data set. Black Nigerian Americans especially those who closely identify traditional Nigerian cultural educational and family values are one of the most successful demographics in America. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why thar is?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Anyone want to venture a guess as to why thar is? https://www.ozy.com/around-the-world/the-most-successful-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-may-surprise-you/86885/ I was looking for some system to blame, but it turns out valuing education seems to matter. Edited July 15, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2021 Author Posted July 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Does the CRT distraction make sense now as we begin to hear over the next month all the mitigation the schools will be doing indefinitely.... Libs will wrongly blame "systemic racism." Cons will gladly let the public schools continue to slit their own throat. Ya think a history of oppression has weighed on black community and is a factor in low grades? 14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Apparently there is another even more damning demographic data set. Black Nigerian Americans especially those who closely identify traditional Nigerian cultural educational and family values are one of the most successful demographics in America. Anyone with any interest whatsoever in fixing anything about the current inequity along racial lines in America would be studying that pretty hard. That’s a great point. They didn’t have their families suffer through slavery and Jim Crow.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya think a history of oppression has weighed on black community and is a factor in low grades? That’s a great point. They didn’t have their families suffer through slavery and Jim Crow. I was hoping someone would point that out. You see no one is arguing slavery and Jim Crow were bad wrong or happened, or at least no one with integrity. The objection is to the notion those ideals underpin every facet of American society in 2021. Also many of those African families were just as directly impacted by slavery. 2
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That’s a great point. They didn’t have their families suffer through slavery and Jim Crow. 🤦🏻♂️
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Apparently there is another even more damning demographic data set. Black Nigerian Americans especially those who closely identify traditional Nigerian cultural educational and family values are one of the most successful demographics in America. Anyone with any interest whatsoever in fixing anything about the current inequity along racial lines in America would be studying that pretty hard. 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya think a history of oppression has weighed on black community and is a factor in low grades? That’s a great point. They didn’t have their families suffer through slavery and Jim Crow. Nigerian immigrants happen to be the most educated demographic in America. Like many nations, their best performing students come here to go to great universities. The idea that this somehow disproves the existence of racism makes as much sense of arguing the existence of wealthy Nigerians means poverty does not exist in Nigeria.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Nigerian immigrants happen to be the most educated demographic in America. Like many nations, their best performing students come here to go to great universities. The idea that this somehow disproves the existence of racism makes as much sense of arguing the existence of wealthy Nigerians means poverty does not exist in Nigeria. So they come here in spite of a system rigged against them? That makes no sense.
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: So they come here in spite of a system rigged against them? That makes no sense. I get it. You're a black and white thinker. Everything is all or nothing. Nothing exists on a continuom. Either everything is racist or nothing is. 1
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I get it. You're a black and white thinker. Everything is all or nothing. Nothing exists on a continuom. Either everything is racist or nothing is. So why are Nigerians able to attend the best universities?
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So why are Nigerians able to attend the best universities? Because most things are on a continuom.
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Because most things are on a continuom. That’s not an answer. Why are Nigerians able to attend the best universities here in the US.
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Chef Jim said: That’s not an answer. Why are Nigerians able to attend the best universities here in the US. Just because you're unable or unwilling to apply the example given to the discussion at hand doesn't mean "it's not an answer." The Nigerians applying to the top schools in the US are the top students in Nigeria... Even in very poor military dictatorships there are wealthy and well educated people... There's also very few colleges in Nigeria. In fact there's only 150 colleges for a population of 180 million people. So the best students who often come from wealthy families that can pay for education abroad come here to take advantage of the abundant number of colleges. The idea that that somehow proves that there is absolutely no effects of racism here just doesn't follow. Tell me about the income and education inequality in Nigeria following British rule and decades of military dictatorship.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Just because you're unable or unwilling to apply the example given to the discussion at hand doesn't mean "it's not an answer." The Nigerians applying to the top schools in the US are the top students in Nigeria... Even in very poor military dictatorships there are wealthy and well educated people... There's also very few colleges in Nigeria. In fact there's only 150 colleges for a population of 180 million people. So the best students who often come from wealthy families that can pay for education abroad come here to take advantage of the abundant number of colleges. The idea that that somehow proves that there is absolutely no effects of racism here just doesn't follow. Tell me about the income and education inequality in Nigeria following British rule and decades of military dictatorship. So the wealthiest and most educated Nigerian elite are coming to a systemically racist country for more opportunity? Is that the argument? 1
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: So the wealthiest and most educated Nigerian elite are coming to a systemically racist country for more opportunity? Is that the argument? Wrong question. Are there more opportunities in a wealthy democratic nation with a history systemic racism than in a poor military dictatorship. Yes, clearly there are.
Big Blitz Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Wrong question. No it isn't. The Nigerian could go anywhere in the world and yet they come to this racist ***t hole. Incredible. We are the planets last best hope being sold out to the CCP. 1
Motorin' Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No it isn't. The Nigerian could go anywhere in the world and yet they come to this racist ***t hole. Incredible. We are the planets last best hope being sold out to the CCP. Too late, you're on list. See you in the Walmart Fema camp with Barry and Isis... And just so you know, of the 17 million Nigerian emigrants, about 3% came to the US. So 97% of them do go somewhere else... Edited July 15, 2021 by Motorin'
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Wrong question. Are there more opportunities in a wealthy democratic nation with a history systemic racism than in a poor military dictatorship. Yes, clearly there are. Second generation Nigerian Americans are out achieving every other demographic. How is that possible if they are systemically oppressed because of their appearance?? Do police officers see a Nigerian bumper sticker and decide not to pull them over? Do employers see Nigerian names on resumes and hire then promote them because they didn’t realize they were supposed to be more oppressive? Why is this sub group earning so much money and so many degrees in the us? Did all the systemic oppressors fall asleep at the wheel? The deliberate effort to dismiss any analysis of this particular reality is very telling about how much the alt left cares about actually addressing inequitable outcomes. They need racism as an enemy against which to mobilize their sheeple for power. They don’t want anything fixed. 1
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Just because you're unable or unwilling to apply the example given to the discussion at hand doesn't mean "it's not an answer." The Nigerians applying to the top schools in the US are the top students in Nigeria... Even in very poor military dictatorships there are wealthy and well educated people... There's also very few colleges in Nigeria. In fact there's only 150 colleges for a population of 180 million people. So the best students who often come from wealthy families that can pay for education abroad come here to take advantage of the abundant number of colleges. The idea that that somehow proves that there is absolutely no effects of racism here just doesn't follow. Tell me about the income and education inequality in Nigeria following British rule and decades of military dictatorship. So what you’re saying is they got into the best universities due to wealth and education? So not getting into universities may be more of a socioeconomic issue than a skin color issue? While historical racism has been a part of the poor socioeconomic standing of blacks at what point do the scales tip towards a bigger part of the problem being on them? As we have seen the prevalence of racism deminish we are also seeing more and more POC having great success socially and economically. So at what point do we stop using past as the reasons for the failures of the present? Edited July 15, 2021 by Chef Jim 1
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