SoCal Deek Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, Capco said: I spent a pretty decent chunk of time writing this and I can't even get a response or reaction from one person? Instead it's just 2 more pages of poo flinging. Don’t be trying to bring your well thought out opinions on here. Tibs and Billstime are trying to stoke a Junior High worthy pillow fight! 2 1
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Grassroots fighting CRT in the classroom is not big evil scary conservative groups or politicians … it’s parents and teachers of all races and political ideals who do NOT want this garbage being taught to their children. Imagine if instead of pretending these parents and teachers are too stupid to understand CRT the proponents of this indoctrination actually listened to them. Arguments like Sarah’s are simply meant to obfuscate what is going on. History can be taught accurately without using this lens. In fact removing it encourages critical thinking. I hate the shorthand to “CRT” because the lens is used on all characteristics to include Sex, sexual preference, gender identity, immigration status, religion, disability & even body morphology. It teaches children the very things that help them succeed like, time management, showing their work, getting the right answer in math, are a grand conspiracy of their Historical oppressors to keep them down. It is absurd, destructive, and crippling. And antithetical to the approach of great men & women who straddle history with a foot in their childhood when America was at its worst through our progression to being much more equal and fair than the vast majority nations in history. It ignores the success of Thomas Sowell, Bob Woodward, Carol Swain, Condi Rice, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Glenn Loury & countless others who lived through the scourge of legal segregation to become iconic figures in the American story. Critical theories ignore these icons & so does the left because they disprove the thesis. People like Sarah are either lying about critical theory or think it is confined to how we teach history. They either need to educate themselves or stop hiding the ball. Because on the ground, the grassroots movement is parents across the political spectrum of all races that object to the lens that is being used to teach our children to judge others motives, thinking & worth by their observable characteristics. As a nation we decided this was wrong in 1964 & have worked to continue to improve ever since. 1
Capco Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: Grassroots fighting CRT in the classroom is not big evil scary conservative groups or politicians … it’s parents and teachers of all races and political ideals who do NOT want this garbage being taught to their children. Imagine if instead of pretending these parents and teachers are too stupid to understand CRT the proponents of this indoctrination actually listened to them. Arguments like Sarah’s are simply meant to obfuscate what is going on. History can be taught accurately without using this lens. In fact removing it encourages critical thinking. I hate the shorthand to “CRT” because the lens is used on all characteristics to include Sex, sexual preference, gender identity, immigration status, religion, disability & even body morphology. It teaches children the very things that help them succeed like, time management, showing their work, getting the right answer in math, are a grand conspiracy of their Historical oppressors to keep them down. It is absurd, destructive, and crippling. And antithetical to the approach of great men & women who straddle history with a foot in their childhood when America was at its worst through our progression to being much more equal and fair than the vast majority nations in history. It ignores the success of Thomas Sowell, Bob Woodward, Carol Swain, Condi Rice, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, Glenn Loury & countless others who lived through the scourge of legal segregation to become iconic figures in the American story. Critical theories ignore these icons & so does the left because they disprove the thesis. People like Sarah are either lying about critical theory or think it is confined to how we teach history. They either need to educate themselves or stop hiding the ball. Because on the ground, the grassroots movement is parents across the political spectrum of all races that object to the lens that is being used to teach our children to judge others motives, thinking & worth by their observable characteristics. As a nation we decided this was wrong in 1964 & have worked to continue to improve ever since. Overall this is a pretty decent take, except for two things. First, I'd throw the very first sentence out: Critical theories are the lens through which K-12 is being taught. I have yet to see evidence that this is happening. The entirety of K-12? Every single class? In every single district? It's unfortunate because this sentence immediately derails the rest of the commentary. Second, this sentence paints with extremely broad brush strokes: Critical theories ignore these icons & so does the left because they disprove the thesis. Like, I could have accepted far left or extreme left, but not just left. Granted, it's Twitter but they also didn't mind writing this over 8 tweets. Also, I'm not sure why you left the last sentence out: Gen Z is the most tolerant generation in history according to social science research, a testament to our success. Since I think it drives home the author's point very well. And that is that you can't have the most tolerant generation in the nation's history if the system is designed to encourage less tolerance. In fact, the ones who seemingly espouse less tolerance (CRT) are also the ones decrying the system that allowed the most tolerant generation in the nation's history to come about. It's just not a good look... 1 1
716er Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Again - CRT, CT, gender theory, pragmatism, behaviorism, etc are all pedagogical theories related to teaching. Prospective teachers learn these theories in university and apply lessons learned from each in order to teach their pupils as they see fit. Pupils are not being taught CRT. They're not being taught constructivism. ETC Another example of obfuscation - one side screaming this, that, and the other thing are CRT - when they clearly are not. 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, 716er said: Again - CRT, CT, gender theory, pragmatism, behaviorism, etc are all pedagogical theories related to teaching. Prospective teachers learn these theories in university and apply lessons learned from each in order to teach their pupils as they see fit. Pupils are not being taught CRT. They're not being taught constructivism. ETC Another example of obfuscation - one side screaming this, that, and the other thing are CRT - when they clearly are not. So if not that then what are students being taught? I assume they’re still being taught, as we all were, that slavery isn’t/wasn’t good. No? Are we done now? Can they learn things they don’t know.
Capco Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: So if not that then what are students being taught? I assume they’re still being taught, as we all were, that slavery isn’t/wasn’t good. No? Are we done now? Can they learn things they don’t know. As far as I can tell, the only direct connection between CRT and public schools is the 1619 Project, which, in certain districts, is allowed to be taught in some (non-radical) form as supplementary material if the teachers/districts desire.
716er Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So if not that then what are students being taught? I assume they’re still being taught, as we all were, that slavery isn’t/wasn’t good. No? Are we done now? Can they learn things they don’t know. Math, sciences, English, social studies- whatever their state (if public) dictates. 1
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 COLORADO: Aurora teacher pledges to teach critical race theory, like it or not. “Common ground doesn’t mean meeting in the middle.The only common ground that exists is what exists in leftist beliefs. Because conservative ‘common ground’ leaves out people who are poor, BIPOC, *****, with disabilities, etc. But OUR common ground includes the liberation for all.” As Rebellion Against Critical Race Theory Grows, Left Turns to Denial, Dismissal. Americans are waking up to the threat posed by critical race theory, which is often presented behind a cloak of secrecy and the banner of social justice, and across the country, they are now fighting back. The Biden administration may have reversed former President Donald Trump’s ban on critical race theory and so-called anti-racist training in government agencies, but Americans from a diverse set of backgrounds are now making this a national fight, which is dramatically playing out on the local and state level. What has been the response from the left to this popular rebellion against critical race theory? Denial and dismissal. When asked about debates over critical race theory taking place at school board meetings in Northern Virginia, former Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, earlier this month called it a “right-wing conspiracy” made up by Republicans. On Sunday, NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd said that resistance to critical race theory was “manufactured,” and one of his guests, Cornell Belcher, a Democratic Party strategist, said it was nothing more than a “tool … in the racial tribal bogeyman’s toolbox,” concocted for electoral purposes. Others on the left have said that critical race theory has been too broadly defined by opponents and legislatures that want to remove it from public institutions. It’s just an insignificant school issue, they insist: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Critical race theory is bad, you say? We’ve never heard of it, but stop trying to stop it, fascist! These dismissive rebukes miss the point that many Americans reject the broad range of woke racial ideology that is broadly being promoted by activists, media, corporations, bureaucrats, and even the military to destructive effect. Has the left bothered to narrowly define “white supremacy”—or for that matter, racism, which has been attributed to apple pie, bird names, and the air, among other things? Of course not. The fact is, critical race theory has given rise to a host of terrible ideas and policies that have gone by many names. Information about what critical race theory and various other “anti-racism” programs are really about has been exposed by Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and many others. Its influence in schools has also been revealed by the fact that many parents have directly witnessed it as a result of the COVID-19 lockdowns and the resulting move to virtual education at home. More at the link: https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/06/21/as-rebellion-against-critical-race-theory-grows-left-turns-to-denial-dismissal
SoCal Deek Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, 716er said: Math, sciences, English, social studies- whatever their state (if public) dictates. So since EVERYONE seems to agree that CRT shouldn’t be and/or isn’t being taught in our public schools, nobody should be upset that parents are being proactive in speaking out to their elected school board officials. Done! 1
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Don't Ban CRT. Expose It. There's a liberal way to fight illiberalism. And it's beginning to work. Andrew Sullivan FTA: How on earth could merely teaching students about the history of racism and its pervasiveness in the United States provoke such a fuss? No wonder Charles Blow is mystified. But don’t worry. The MSM have a ready explanation: the GOP needs an inflammatory issue to rile their racist base, and so this entire foofaraw is really just an astro-turfed, ginned-up partisan gambit about nothing. The MSM get particular pleasure in ridiculing parents who use the term “critical race theory” as shorthand for things that just, well, make them uncomfortable — when the parents obviously have no idea what CRT really is. When pushed to describe it themselves, elite journalists refer to the legal theories Derrick Bell came up with, in the 1970s — obscure, esoteric and nothing really to do with high-school teaching. “If your kid is learning CRT, your kid is in law/grad school,” snarked one. Marc Lamont Hill even tried to pull off some strained references to Gramsci to prove his Marxian intellectual cred, and to condescend to his opponents. This rubric achieves several things at once. It denies that there is anything really radical or new about CRT; it flatters the half-educated; it blames the controversy entirely on Republican opportunism; and it urges all fair-minded people to defend intellectual freedom and racial sensitivity against these ugly white supremacists. What could be more convenient? NBC News “reporter”, Brandy Zadrozny, even decried parents’ attempts to discover through FOIA requests just what their children are being taught — and argued this week that, “for longtime ultra conservative activists, CRT is the opportunity of a lifetime.” CRT, she explains, is not a threat at all, and there is no proof that it is even being taught. It’s “just a catch-all term repurposed as a conservative boogeyman.” She goes on: “it harnesses pushback against 2020’s racial justice movement, covid denialism, and depends on a base still energized by Trump and misinformation, looking for political power.” I’m sure the MSM will continue to push this narrative indefinitely. They are still insisting, after all, that “white supremacy” is behind hateful attacks on Asian-Americans, and that soaring murder rates are purely a function of Covid19. And you can see why: this dismissive take is extremely helpful in avoiding what is actually happening. It diverts attention from the stories and leaks and documents that keep popping up all over the place about extraordinary indoctrination sessions that have become mandatory for children as early as kindergarten. And no, 6-year-olds are not being taught Derrick Bell — or forced to read Judith Butler, or God help them, Kimberlé Crenshaw. Of course they aren’t — and I don’t know anyone who says they are. But they are being taught popularized terms, new words, and a whole new epistemology that is directly downstream of academic critical theory. Ibram X. Kendi even has an AntiRacist Baby Picture Book so you can indoctrinate your child into the evil of whiteness as soon as she or he can gurgle. It’s a little hard to argue that CRT is not interested in indoctrinating kids when its chief proponent in the US has a kiddy book on the market. The goal of education of children this young is to cement the notion at the most formative age that America is at its core an oppressive racist system uniquely designed to exploit, harm, abuse, and even kill the non-white. This can be conveyed in easy terms, by training kids to see themselves first and foremost as racial avatars, and by inculcating in them a sense of their destiny as members of the oppressed or oppressor classes in the zero-sum struggle for power that is American society in 2021. Let me draw an analogy to another kind of education. In Catholic kindergarten, kids are not taught Aquinas, the debates about the Trinity in the early church, or the intricacies of transubstantiation. But they are taught that they were created by God, in his image, and that they should love one another. All of this is part of Catholicism. But the former is abstract and esoteric; the latter is the practical, downstream application of these truths — accessible to children, to direct their morality. As they grow up, they will learn more. But it is all part of the same system of faith and thought. Its words and values resonate throughout it all: love, compassion, sin, forgiveness, dignity, God, heaven. Similarly with CRT, impenetrable academic discourse at the elite level is translated to child-friendly truisms, with the same aim — to change behavior. And so the notion that the most important thing about a child is that she is white, and this makes her part of an oppressive system purposely designed to hurt her new friend, who is black, is how this comes out in an actual real-life scenario. And she has to account for her indelible “whiteness”, just as Catholic kids have to account for their sins. CRT has its own words and values, and they are instilled from the beginning: racism, systems, intersectionality, hegemony, oppression, whiteness, privilege, cisgender, and “doing the work,” as CRT convert Dr. Jill Biden would say. To give an example from an elementary school in California, a teacher in a math class, asked all students to create an “identity map,” listing their race, class, gender, religion, family structure, and other characteristics. The teacher explained that the students live in a “dominant culture” of “white, middle class, cisgender, educated, able-bodied, Christian, English speaker[s],” who, according to the lesson, “created and maintained” this culture in order “to hold power and stay in power.” The class of 8-year-olds then learned from a book helpfully titled “This Is An Antiracist Book” how some parts of their identity could be oppressive or oppressed. No, they were not introduced to Foucault or Marcuse. But they, and countless others across the country, especially in the past year, are being trained to see the world through a neo-Marxian lens of identity group power-struggle, even in a math class. I don’t know what planet you have to be on to be shocked that when a child reports this kind of thing back to her parents, the parents want to know what on earth is going on. This is not something only “ultra-conservative” activists would react to, as NBC News’ woke reporters seem to believe. This is not teaching about critical race theory; it is teaching in critical race theory. And it is compulsory and often hidden from parents. It contradicts the core foundations of our liberal society; and is presented not as one truth to be contrasted with others, but as the truth, the basis on which all other truths are built. That’s why teaching based on CRT will make children see themselves racially from the get-go, why it will separate them into different racial groups, why it will compel white kids to internalize their complicity in evil, tell black kids that all their troubles are a function of white people, banish objective measurements of success to avoid stigmatizing failure, and treat children of different races differently in a classically racist hierarchy. And this is why — crucially — it will suppress any other way of seeing the world — because any other way, by definition, is merely perpetuating oppression. As Kendi constantly reminds us, it is either/or. An antiracist cannot exist with a liberalism that perpetuates racism. And it’s always the liberalism that has to go. And this has always been the point. There is something so disingenuous about critical theorists both arguing that they are revealing the real truth about the world in order to change it, and then claiming that they’re just offering an alternative take of history within a liberal context. You can see this intellectually dishonest bait-and-switch in the 1619 Project. It claims something truly radical — that the real founding of America was in 1619 because the core meaning of America is white supremacy, not liberal democracy — and then, when called on it, turns around and says no, silly, we’re just engaging in a thought-experiment to explain how racism has affected all of us, and to provoke debate. Well: which is it? In theory, they tell you it is all compatible with liberalism; in practice, they prove and believe the opposite. MUCH MORE at the link: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/dont-ban-crt-expose-it-2d9 1
Wacka Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 3:29 PM, SoCal Deek said: The very premise of CRT is all wrong. It’s a simple matter of cause and effect. The country doesn’t suffer from systemic racism....it ‘suffers’ from systemic capitalism. Now, it just so happens that blacks find themselves at the low end of the economic ladder...but it’s certainly not from racism. It’s been caused from decades of well intentioned but horrible liberal democrat social policies. In a nutshell! FIFY 1
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 GEORGE KORDA: UT’s Critical Race Collective’s five tenets – and the questions they raise. 1. Centrality of Race and Racism in Society: CRT asserts that racism is a central component of American life. 2. Challenge to Dominant Ideology: CRT challenges the claims of neutrality, objectivity, colorblindness, and meritocracy in society. 3. Centrality of Experiential Knowledge: CRT asserts that the experiential knowledge of people of color is appropriate, legitimate, and an integral part to analyzing and understanding racial inequality. 4. Interdisciplinary Perspective: CRT challenges ahistoricism and the unidisciplinary focuses of most analyses and insists that race and racism be placed in both a contemporary and historical context using interdisciplinary methods. 5. Commitment to Social Justice: CRT is a framework that is committed to a social justice agenda to eliminate all forms of subordination of people. More at the link. https://www.knoxnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/george-korda/2021/06/22/uts-critical-race-collectives-five-tenets-raise-questions-korda/7772462002/
SoCal Deek Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Wacka said: FIFY Your fix was just to change liberal to democrat? I’d disagree. While these programs are indeed generally authored by democrats I’d suggest that they are at their core, liberal, philosophically speaking. In other words instead of crafting legislation bent on discouraging ‘bad’ behavior, we look at the outcome of that behavior and write laws that appease those that have already ‘gone wrong’. The unintended consequence has been a train wreck for the black community. Horrendous really.
Chef Jim Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 23 hours ago, Capco said: I spent a pretty decent chunk of time writing this and I can't even get a response or reaction from one person? Instead it's just 2 more pages of poo flinging. Wiki?? Really?? 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 6 hours ago, B-Man said: Don't Ban CRT. Expose It. There's a liberal way to fight illiberalism. And it's beginning to work. Andrew Sullivan FTA: How on earth could merely teaching students about the history of racism and its pervasiveness in the United States provoke such a fuss? No wonder Charles Blow is mystified. But don’t worry. The MSM have a ready explanation: the GOP needs an inflammatory issue to rile their racist base, and so this entire foofaraw is really just an astro-turfed, ginned-up partisan gambit about nothing. The MSM get particular pleasure in ridiculing parents who use the term “critical race theory” as shorthand for things that just, well, make them uncomfortable — when the parents obviously have no idea what CRT really is. When pushed to describe it themselves, elite journalists refer to the legal theories Derrick Bell came up with, in the 1970s — obscure, esoteric and nothing really to do with high-school teaching. “If your kid is learning CRT, your kid is in law/grad school,” snarked one. Marc Lamont Hill even tried to pull off some strained references to Gramsci to prove his Marxian intellectual cred, and to condescend to his opponents. This rubric achieves several things at once. It denies that there is anything really radical or new about CRT; it flatters the half-educated; it blames the controversy entirely on Republican opportunism; and it urges all fair-minded people to defend intellectual freedom and racial sensitivity against these ugly white supremacists. What could be more convenient? NBC News “reporter”, Brandy Zadrozny, even decried parents’ attempts to discover through FOIA requests just what their children are being taught — and argued this week that, “for longtime ultra conservative activists, CRT is the opportunity of a lifetime.” CRT, she explains, is not a threat at all, and there is no proof that it is even being taught. It’s “just a catch-all term repurposed as a conservative boogeyman.” She goes on: “it harnesses pushback against 2020’s racial justice movement, covid denialism, and depends on a base still energized by Trump and misinformation, looking for political power.” I’m sure the MSM will continue to push this narrative indefinitely. They are still insisting, after all, that “white supremacy” is behind hateful attacks on Asian-Americans, and that soaring murder rates are purely a function of Covid19. And you can see why: this dismissive take is extremely helpful in avoiding what is actually happening. It diverts attention from the stories and leaks and documents that keep popping up all over the place about extraordinary indoctrination sessions that have become mandatory for children as early as kindergarten. And no, 6-year-olds are not being taught Derrick Bell — or forced to read Judith Butler, or God help them, Kimberlé Crenshaw. Of course they aren’t — and I don’t know anyone who says they are. But they are being taught popularized terms, new words, and a whole new epistemology that is directly downstream of academic critical theory. Ibram X. Kendi even has an AntiRacist Baby Picture Book so you can indoctrinate your child into the evil of whiteness as soon as she or he can gurgle. It’s a little hard to argue that CRT is not interested in indoctrinating kids when its chief proponent in the US has a kiddy book on the market. The goal of education of children this young is to cement the notion at the most formative age that America is at its core an oppressive racist system uniquely designed to exploit, harm, abuse, and even kill the non-white. This can be conveyed in easy terms, by training kids to see themselves first and foremost as racial avatars, and by inculcating in them a sense of their destiny as members of the oppressed or oppressor classes in the zero-sum struggle for power that is American society in 2021. Let me draw an analogy to another kind of education. In Catholic kindergarten, kids are not taught Aquinas, the debates about the Trinity in the early church, or the intricacies of transubstantiation. But they are taught that they were created by God, in his image, and that they should love one another. All of this is part of Catholicism. But the former is abstract and esoteric; the latter is the practical, downstream application of these truths — accessible to children, to direct their morality. As they grow up, they will learn more. But it is all part of the same system of faith and thought. Its words and values resonate throughout it all: love, compassion, sin, forgiveness, dignity, God, heaven. Similarly with CRT, impenetrable academic discourse at the elite level is translated to child-friendly truisms, with the same aim — to change behavior. And so the notion that the most important thing about a child is that she is white, and this makes her part of an oppressive system purposely designed to hurt her new friend, who is black, is how this comes out in an actual real-life scenario. And she has to account for her indelible “whiteness”, just as Catholic kids have to account for their sins. CRT has its own words and values, and they are instilled from the beginning: racism, systems, intersectionality, hegemony, oppression, whiteness, privilege, cisgender, and “doing the work,” as CRT convert Dr. Jill Biden would say. To give an example from an elementary school in California, a teacher in a math class, asked all students to create an “identity map,” listing their race, class, gender, religion, family structure, and other characteristics. The teacher explained that the students live in a “dominant culture” of “white, middle class, cisgender, educated, able-bodied, Christian, English speaker[s],” who, according to the lesson, “created and maintained” this culture in order “to hold power and stay in power.” The class of 8-year-olds then learned from a book helpfully titled “This Is An Antiracist Book” how some parts of their identity could be oppressive or oppressed. No, they were not introduced to Foucault or Marcuse. But they, and countless others across the country, especially in the past year, are being trained to see the world through a neo-Marxian lens of identity group power-struggle, even in a math class. I don’t know what planet you have to be on to be shocked that when a child reports this kind of thing back to her parents, the parents want to know what on earth is going on. This is not something only “ultra-conservative” activists would react to, as NBC News’ woke reporters seem to believe. This is not teaching about critical race theory; it is teaching in critical race theory. And it is compulsory and often hidden from parents. It contradicts the core foundations of our liberal society; and is presented not as one truth to be contrasted with others, but as the truth, the basis on which all other truths are built. That’s why teaching based on CRT will make children see themselves racially from the get-go, why it will separate them into different racial groups, why it will compel white kids to internalize their complicity in evil, tell black kids that all their troubles are a function of white people, banish objective measurements of success to avoid stigmatizing failure, and treat children of different races differently in a classically racist hierarchy. And this is why — crucially — it will suppress any other way of seeing the world — because any other way, by definition, is merely perpetuating oppression. As Kendi constantly reminds us, it is either/or. An antiracist cannot exist with a liberalism that perpetuates racism. And it’s always the liberalism that has to go. And this has always been the point. There is something so disingenuous about critical theorists both arguing that they are revealing the real truth about the world in order to change it, and then claiming that they’re just offering an alternative take of history within a liberal context. You can see this intellectually dishonest bait-and-switch in the 1619 Project. It claims something truly radical — that the real founding of America was in 1619 because the core meaning of America is white supremacy, not liberal democracy — and then, when called on it, turns around and says no, silly, we’re just engaging in a thought-experiment to explain how racism has affected all of us, and to provoke debate. Well: which is it? In theory, they tell you it is all compatible with liberalism; in practice, they prove and believe the opposite. MUCH MORE at the link: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/dont-ban-crt-expose-it-2d9 that’s been my choice, to expose what neoracist bs this all is, and tell the kids to go on doing your best, working hard, respecting people around you, being critical and question everyone and everything you hear, see people as individuals not groups identified by nefariously motivated social engineers or politicians trying to divide and conquer people, kick ass and never apologize for succeeding. The world is a tough cruel and unfair place. And nobody better has your best interests in mind than you. And anyone who judges anyone for anything based on how they look is ignorant, racist, bigoted, prejudiced garbage. That includes anyone who tells. what you are because of how you look. And your relatives came here WITH NOTHING long after the stain of the past were washed away and by the way were subjected to genocide too. basically 🖕 to all the whiners complaining about victims of society and guilt. it’s resonated pretty well. I’m thinking of writing a Suess type book … “the woke are a joke, perpetrating a hoke and usually broke, with crazy ideals sure to croak.”
JaCrispy Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) On 6/23/2021 at 12:22 AM, unbillievable said: This was a treat...I think I could be woke, but I enjoy telling jokes that center around racial stereotypes, and individual eccentricities too much...I just feel, as flawed humans, it’s important to be able to laugh at ourselves...after all, we are quite an amusing species...😉 https://youtu.be/jhJDAI7XaAA Edited June 25, 2021 by JaCrispy 1
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