Not at the table Karlos Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Rockinon said: I remember his first season. He was not a 1T coming out of college but the coach needed someone to sub for Star. Harrison was the guy who stood out the most as a viable replacement when Star needed to rest. You are right that coming out of college he most definitely was not a 1T, but he has proven to be pretty damn good at the position. Now that he's healthy, he may very well prove to be better than Star and take the starting position. I found it really odd that the coach wanted Harrison to play the 1T to begin with. In college he had some sick numbers getting after the passer. The more I think about it though, watching us draft two DEs back to back in this years draft, drafting Ed Oliver and having something like 10 DEs on this team, it is becoming clear that the coach values pass rushers over run stuffers. I'm beginning to think that this team is looking for speed on the DLine rather than size/power. More of a NASCAR type defense where the front four are all getting after the passer. It's clear now that Harrison is valued not just to take on two blockers, but because he is one more person on that line that can drop a QB for a loss. It makes it difficult for an OL to choose who to double block. Star is useful simply by being big and powerful, eating double the blockers. Harrison is useful because he can also eat blockers and he can also shoot the gap and sack the QB. Watching some of his college games. He played a lot of nose. Straight up on the center. Also reading some scouting reports, all say much better run defender than pass rusher, one even said "not a pro pass rusher". A lot of his sacks were effort or coverage sacks. All four reports I read said he struggles at taking on double teams with his size, said he's a single block run defender. He's playing 1-tech because that's the closest fit for his skill set. Everyone compared him to Kyle Williams coming out and everyone thought he was gonna be this great interior pass rusher but anyone that watched him said he's the opposite of Kyle. Better against run vs pass. I'd he can improve vs double teams he will be fine at 1-tech.
Rockinon Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Watching some of his college games. He played a lot of nose. Straight up on the center. Also reading some scouting reports, all say much better run defender than pass rusher, one even said "not a pro pass rusher". A lot of his sacks were effort or coverage sacks. All four reports I read said he struggles at taking on double teams with his size, said he's a single block run defender. He's playing 1-tech because that's the closest fit for his skill set. Everyone compared him to Kyle Williams coming out and everyone thought he was gonna be this great interior pass rusher but anyone that watched him said he's the opposite of Kyle. Better against run vs pass. I'd he can improve vs double teams he will be fine at 1-tech. I must be confusing him with someone else, haha. The Bills picked up someone in the draft a couple of years ago with ridiculous numbers sacking the QB. Thought it was Harrison.
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, Rockinon said: I must be confusing him with someone else, haha. The Bills picked up someone in the draft a couple of years ago with ridiculous numbers sacking the QB. Thought it was Harrison. He had 7 and 7.5 sacks his last two years at Stanford according to sports-reference.com, which is pretty good for a nose tackle. But I think those numbers are misleading. They were effort or coverage sacks for the most part. Hes a much better run defender than pass rusher at the moment and his stats and play in the pros shows that as well.
BADOLBILZ Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 14 hours ago, Rockinon said: I remember his first season. He was not a 1T coming out of college but the coach needed someone to sub for Star. Harrison was the guy who stood out the most as a viable replacement when Star needed to rest. You are right that coming out of college he most definitely was not a 1T, but he has proven to be pretty damn good at the position. Now that he's healthy, he may very well prove to be better than Star and take the starting position. I found it really odd that the coach wanted Harrison to play the 1T to begin with. In college he had some sick numbers getting after the passer. The more I think about it though, watching us draft two DEs back to back in this years draft, drafting Ed Oliver and having something like 10 DEs on this team, it is becoming clear that the coach values pass rushers over run stuffers. I'm beginning to think that this team is looking for speed on the DLine rather than size/power. More of a NASCAR type defense where the front four are all getting after the passer. It's clear now that Harrison is valued not just to take on two blockers, but because he is one more person on that line that can drop a QB for a loss. It makes it difficult for an OL to choose who to double block. Star is useful simply by being big and powerful, eating double the blockers. Harrison is useful because he can also eat blockers and he can also shoot the gap and sack the QB. Agree that everything points to them focusing on pass rush impact over stay-at-home types like Star. The actions ever since Star opted out have spoken loudly. I don't think Phillips was an outstanding pass rusher in college though........I watched him a lot at Stanford and yeah he had a couple 7 sack seasons in a pass-happy conference.......but he was really just a very active run defender at the LOS. I think fans often confuse the 1 tech responsibilities with those of a NT. The NT is literally just trying to tie up blockers by lining directly over the center(who is prone to be off-balance) and forcing the offense to choose which guard to use to double him. His job is to go thru the center not around him. The 1 tech's job is to shoot the gap between the guard and center and EITHER absorb the double OR get into the backfield. Marcel Dareus was an all-pro DT with double digit sacks mostly playing the 1 tech in Schwartz defense. Nobody considered him just a space eater. It's a position where the right player can still make a lot of plays. Phillips is a 1 tech DT. He isn't a true NT........but the Bills don't play an odd front and Star isn't a NT-capable player either. Even when strategically positioned as a 1 tech to FORCE double teams Star was still often single blocked. Neither are truly massive. What was nice about Phillips pre-injury was that he was getting off blocks and making tackles........a trait that Star lacks and many fans just assume that is by design because they think he has the limited responsibilities of a NT. 3 2 2
3rdand12 Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 14 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: We talk how he played good in 2019 and we would’ve loved to see more. But we forget the Bills did see more of him. In training camp for a few weeks. If he was performing at his 2019 level in training camp (seems likely) then that should assuage some of those fears. He’s obviously at the facilities so the bills would also have good perspective on his approach this year relative to 2019. I like Joe Marino (I’m in his jersey raffle) but I think he might be missing what McBeane see. Star has gotten me worried so I’m really hoping for Harry to play out of his mind. Its possible Star was bought on as more of a very smart Vet who could bring the young horses into their own ? and 1 tech was less important . I have seen him switch coverage via Edmunds on occasion plays ! But the truth might be they have already moved on from him , and , that type of player. I honestly expected them to draft a sincere 1tech fat kid who could hold his own against the run up the middle. But they did not. and that puts a nail in it. McDermott's D Line Coaching /drafting theories. guys like Oliver and Phillips up front are the vision perhaps ?
3rdand12 Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Agree that everything points to them focusing on pass rush impact over stay-at-home types like Star. The actions ever since Star opted out have spoken loudly. I don't think Phillips was an outstanding pass rusher in college though........I watched him a lot at Stanford and yeah he had a couple 7 sack seasons in a pass-happy conference.......but he was really just a very active run defender at the LOS. I think fans often confuse the 1 tech responsibilities with those of a NT. The NT is literally just trying to tie up blockers by lining directly over the center(who is prone to be off-balance) and forcing the offense to choose which guard to use to double him. His job is to go thru the center not around him. The 1 tech's job is to shoot the gap between the guard and center and EITHER absorb the double OR get into the backfield. Marcel Dareus was an all-pro DT with double digit sacks mostly playing the 1 tech in Schwartz defense. Nobody considered him just a space eater. It's a position where the right player can still make a lot of plays. Phillips is a 1 tech DT. He isn't a true NT........but the Bills don't play an odd front and Star isn't a NT-capable player either. Even when strategically positioned as a 1 tech to FORCE double teams Star was still often single blocked. Neither are truly massive. What was nice about Phillips pre-injury was that he was getting off blocks and making tackles........a trait that Star lacks and many fans just assume that is by design because they think he has the limited responsibilities of a NT. Thanks for the good post. I have been misusing the the titles 1T vs NT. Humbly corrected Badol 1
NewEra Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Agree that everything points to them focusing on pass rush impact over stay-at-home types like Star. The actions ever since Star opted out have spoken loudly. I don't think Phillips was an outstanding pass rusher in college though........I watched him a lot at Stanford and yeah he had a couple 7 sack seasons in a pass-happy conference.......but he was really just a very active run defender at the LOS. I think fans often confuse the 1 tech responsibilities with those of a NT. The NT is literally just trying to tie up blockers by lining directly over the center(who is prone to be off-balance) and forcing the offense to choose which guard to use to double him. His job is to go thru the center not around him. The 1 tech's job is to shoot the gap between the guard and center and EITHER absorb the double OR get into the backfield. Marcel Dareus was an all-pro DT with double digit sacks mostly playing the 1 tech in Schwartz defense. Nobody considered him just a space eater. It's a position where the right player can still make a lot of plays. Phillips is a 1 tech DT. He isn't a true NT........but the Bills don't play an odd front and Star isn't a NT-capable player either. Even when strategically positioned as a 1 tech to FORCE double teams Star was still often single blocked. Neither are truly massive. What was nice about Phillips pre-injury was that he was getting off blocks and making tackles........a trait that Star lacks and many fans just assume that is by design because they think he has the limited responsibilities of a NT. Great post 1
GreggTX Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) Man I sure hope so because it doesn't look like Star is going to light it up. Because of the knee injury, we still don't really know how good he can be. I also recall that the press was giving him rave reviews in 2019, before the injury. We didn't draft any DT's so he should have every chance to get snaps and succeed as a Bill in 2021. Now let both Rousseau and Basham be the real deal. Also, it's time for Ed Oliver to take his game to the next level. He's been just OK and that's not OK. Edited June 1, 2021 by GreggTX
Matt_In_NH Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Well we find out in 2021.....otherwise he wont be here anymore. Rooting for him but not holding my breath...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 On 5/29/2021 at 12:55 PM, Chandler#81 said: btw, whoTF is Joe Marino? I think he's the guy sitting two chairs over from Tommy DeVito.
BillsFan4 Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-harrison-phillips-acl-tear-recovery/ ‘I DIDN’T HAVE A DAY OFF’: HARRISON PHILLIPS TALKS RECOVERY FROM ACL TEAR, GROWTH AS LEADER Quote Many [hardships],” Phillips told Cover 1. “Many, many, many. Just as many physically as mentally. It was very frustrating to try to do everything the right way, train the right way, practice hard, do everything you can, and your body still not answer to what you believe it can do. “You can only train your body so much, right? Different than a wide receiver, or a defensive back, my body was fine for the force that it would take from itself. If I were to run up and jump on my leg, I felt comfortable that my knee was healthy enough to sustain that. But in the trenches, I’ve got to play a double team from two people weighing 330 pounds and me planting on my leg, there was so much more force than I could ever replicate through training. That’s why it’s a little bit different for linemen coming back versus a skill position. There’s just so much more force when you calculate it and think about it.” Quote In the face of adversity – an ACL tear, a temporary fall down the depth chart, and a brutal postseason loss – Phillips has not only battled back to full health, but he’s also evolved into a leader, a role model who sets the standard for his teammates on and off the field. For Phillips, it’s all part of the job. “There [are] two types of leadership,” Phillips said. “One is the positional leadership, and that’s like, your middle linebacker is going to be a leader, your starting quarterback is going to be a leader, and your 10-year vet is going to be a leader, because of the positon they’re in. Then there’s personal leadership, and that’s the leadership that you get, gain respect, when players walk by after practice, and they see Tre’Davious White doing extra reps, and doing his extra work. He gets a little bit of leadership for that. “In the same aspect, now that I’ve been here for three years, going on four years, those players who see the way that I am as a player, how serious I take my craft, the way that I am in the film room, staying late, first car there in the morning, last car to leave, those types of things, built up a lot of personal power, as well. As we really build this thing to reach the goals that are out in front of us of not only getting to the game that we got to last year, but making it to the next one, everyone has to step up and lead in some capacity.” This was a good read. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 9:28 AM, BADOLBILZ said: Phillips is a 1 tech DT. He isn't a true NT........but the Bills don't play an odd front and Star isn't a NT-capable player either. Even when strategically positioned as a 1 tech to FORCE double teams Star was still often single blocked. Neither are truly massive. What was nice about Phillips pre-injury was that he was getting off blocks and making tackles........a trait that Star lacks and many fans just assume that is by design because they think he has the limited responsibilities of a NT. I acknowledge I don't watch a lot of college football, but I thought Phillips lined up over center a fair bit in college. To the guy you were responding to, I don't think there was any "coach needed someone to sub for Star. Harrison was the guy who stood out the most as a viable replacement when Star needed to rest". Rotation on the DL has always been a key aspect of how McD wants the DL to function. I think they drafted Phillips intending him to play 1T and rotate with Star. They may have had other players (like Peko) that they wanted to develop there who didn't pan out. I believe the Bills actually lined Harry up over center at times this past season. Pretty sure I saw a piece by ?maybe Cover1 ?maybe on Buffalo Rumblings? breaking this down - I'll have a look for it. What I saw when I was trying to figure out who was playing where on the Bills DL last year is that the Bills were lining guys up all the heck over. I didn't get too far - it was very tough to breakdown. Interestingly I seem to recall - and I could be wrong here - that when the Bills were running a 3-4 D with Kyle Williams at the nose tackle position (with some success) someone observed they were actually not lining him up as a nose tackle but more as a 3T - not to cast doubt on your explanation of 1TDT vs nose tackle but to make the point that there's nuance even how even a position like nose tackle is actually played.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 5:23 AM, Not at the table Karlos said: Watching some of his college games. He played a lot of nose. Straight up on the center. Also reading some scouting reports, all say much better run defender than pass rusher, one even said "not a pro pass rusher". A lot of his sacks were effort or coverage sacks. All four reports I read said he struggles at taking on double teams with his size, said he's a single block run defender. He's playing 1-tech because that's the closest fit for his skill set. Everyone compared him to Kyle Williams coming out and everyone thought he was gonna be this great interior pass rusher but anyone that watched him said he's the opposite of Kyle. Better against run vs pass. I'd he can improve vs double teams he will be fine at 1-tech. I don't watch a lot of college football (it's mostly on cable these days and we don't have cable). But that matches what I recall seeing and reading. On 5/27/2021 at 12:28 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Joe Marino refers to him as "just a guy" and "below-average depth." How does Joe Marino distinguish himself in his Bills coverage from being "just a guy" and "below average depth"?
BADOLBILZ Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I acknowledge I don't watch a lot of college football, but I thought Phillips lined up over center a fair bit in college. To the guy you were responding to, I don't think there was any "coach needed someone to sub for Star. Harrison was the guy who stood out the most as a viable replacement when Star needed to rest". Rotation on the DL has always been a key aspect of how McD wants the DL to function. I think they drafted Phillips intending him to play 1T and rotate with Star. They may have had other players (like Peko) that they wanted to develop there who didn't pan out. I believe the Bills actually lined Harry up over center at times this past season. Pretty sure I saw a piece by ?maybe Cover1 ?maybe on Buffalo Rumblings? breaking this down - I'll have a look for it. What I saw when I was trying to figure out who was playing where on the Bills DL last year is that the Bills were lining guys up all the heck over. I didn't get too far - it was very tough to breakdown. Interestingly I seem to recall - and I could be wrong here - that when the Bills were running a 3-4 D with Kyle Williams at the nose tackle position (with some success) someone observed they were actually not lining him up as a nose tackle but more as a 3T - not to cast doubt on your explanation of 1TDT vs nose tackle but to make the point that there's nuance even how even a position like nose tackle is actually played. Phillips did line up at NT some at Stanford but the function of a NT is usually to draw a double and if not to push the center back into the QB. Phillips was always working to get off blocks. He was really quite dominant at Stanford. His last season he had almost 100 tackles. A guy who can anchor and also make those plays fills the bill. And a third round pick on that type of player is definitely a sign that you see that guy as a very good starter down the line, IMO. Playmaking NT's like Damon Harrison are rare........I never saw Phillips as capable of being an NFL NT. The 1 tech is literally positioned to be a 1 gap player. He doesn't have run responsibility on both sides(2 gap) like a single blocked NT would so when he is single blocked he needs to fill that gap and get in the backfield. Dareus was great at the job.....All Pro under Schwartz and was doing excellent work for McDermott. If you singled him he would blow thru the center/guard gap and blow up the play......if you doubled him he could anchor and still actually get off a block and impact the run game. Cover 1 also had some good stuff on Dareus as a 1 tech for McD early in the 2017 season. As for KW.........he was horrendous as a NT. Edwards might have tilted him to 1 or 2 tech at times but he just wasn't physically capable of absorbing doubles and he would get pushed one way or another and once out of position he would then just revert to shooting gaps rather than do nothing. Sometimes he would make a tackle but most of the time he left huge gaping holes. That whole transition to the 3-4 was ridiculous after years of Jauron drafting to stock a Tampa-2 system. They didn't have a body who could play NT or even 1 tech well.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How does Joe Marino distinguish himself in his Bills coverage from being "just a guy" and "below average depth"? What evidence do we have that he's wrong about Phillips? Par for the course to take shots at anyone who has honest criticism of a Bills player.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: As for KW.........he was horrendous as a NT. Edwards might have tilted him to 1 or 2 tech at times but he just wasn't physically capable of absorbing doubles and he would get pushed one way or another and once out of position he would then just revert to shooting gaps rather than do nothing. Sometimes he would make a tackle but most of the time he left huge gaping holes. That whole transition to the 3-4 was ridiculous after years of Jauron drafting to stock a Tampa-2 system. They didn't have a body who could play NT or even 1 tech well. I completely agree with you that the transition to 3-4 was stupid but that's kind of an aside. Transitioning to different defenses no question held the Bills back from any improvement. Continuity matters (as long as those you continue aren't *****ups...) but I digress. It's worth noticing that Williams went to his first probowl - unusual recognition for a player on a 4-12 team - in 2010, playing nose tackle under George Edwards. I believe that predates all-22 availability - certainly predates my subscription to same... but I have memories of reading a breakdown by Brian Galliford at Buffalo Rumblings I think, on how he was being used, which was actually not as a conventional nose tackle IIRC...but there it stands, he was listed as a NT and he went to the pro-bowl that year. 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: What evidence do we have that he's wrong about Phillips? Par for the course to take shots at anyone who has honest criticism of a Bills player. What evidence do we have that he's right? And what does his "honest criticism" consist of? I'm kind of "done" with the notion that anyone can contend anything and it is somehow "up to" the rest of us to prove them wrong. If you feel Marino has honest criticism, fair enough - how about YOU lay out his arguments and maybe a link or something? As far as I'm concerned if he wants to sling crap (via you) calling Harry ""just a guy" and "below average depth" without the above, it's "open season" to sling crap right back.
NewEra Posted June 8, 2021 Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What evidence do we have that he's right? And what does his "honest criticism" consist of? I'm kind of "done" with the notion that anyone can contend anything and it is somehow "up to" the rest of us to prove them wrong. If you feel Marino has honest criticism, fair enough - how about YOU lay out his arguments and maybe a link or something? As far as I'm concerned if he wants to sling crap (via you) calling Harry ""just a guy" and "below average depth" without the above, it's "open season" to sling crap right back. I don’t see what’s wrong with his post. Many people here know who Joe Marino is. I listen to most of his podcasts. I respect his opinion more than most people on the site. I didn’t see that Marino said that about Philips and I’m thankful that he posted the info. All he @Giuseppe Tognarellidid was mention what Joe said about him. Does he really have to dig up stats and do research that backs up his post, just to state what an analyst, that most informed Bills fans know, said about Phillips? Not every post has to be a 10K word thesis to prove a point does it? Based on his play last season, marino’s take is spot on imo. The guy was benched for 4 games last season because he was invisible and wasn’t doing his job. I was told that McD thinks Edmunds is great because we picked up his 5th year option. What does it mean when McD benches a player for 4 games? Sounds like below average depth to me. maybe he improves this year and proves Marino wrong.....but based on last years play, I agree with his take 💯. He played well in a handful of games towards the end of the season, let’s hope he continues to improve. 1 1
BADOLBILZ Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I completely agree with you that the transition to 3-4 was stupid but that's kind of an aside. Transitioning to different defenses no question held the Bills back from any improvement. Continuity matters (as long as those you continue aren't *****ups...) but I digress. It's worth noticing that Williams went to his first probowl - unusual recognition for a player on a 4-12 team - in 2010, playing nose tackle under George Edwards. I believe that predates all-22 availability - certainly predates my subscription to same... but I have memories of reading a breakdown by Brian Galliford at Buffalo Rumblings I think, on how he was being used, which was actually not as a conventional nose tackle IIRC...but there it stands, he was listed as a NT and he went to the pro-bowl that year. 2010 was one of Williams best years statistically but when you watched the line play he was just not getting the job done. The holes in the run game were enormous. 8 times opponents ran for 200 or more yards against that defense. They were obviously the worst rush defense in the league. The infamous Steelers game(Stevie Johnson and the birth of "Bills Mafia") was the signature performance for Williams that year........he was constantly plowed out of the way in the run game and yet had a career day statistically.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 16 hours ago, NewEra said: I don’t see what’s wrong with his post. Many people here know who Joe Marino is. The problem I have is when “just a guy” and “replacement level player” is taken on face value as “honest criticism”. If there’s more depth to it than that, bring out the depth. If there isn’t more depth to it, IMHO it’s just taking a dump on a guy. We’ve seen plenty of similar “dumps” by folks who have some cred with some people, like PFF talking about Josh. In 2019, they said he was “below replacement level” etc etc etc. As it happens, they were wrong, but at least in their case they backed it up with their funky stats. 16 hours ago, NewEra said: Not every post has to be a 10K word thesis to prove a point does it? C’mon Man, be better. There’s a lot of space between a 10,000 word thesis and a 6 word dump. One could, IDK, give 3-6 sentences? 16 hours ago, NewEra said: Based on his play last season, marino’s take is spot on imo. The guy was benched for 4 games last season because he was invisible and wasn’t doing his job. There was a lot of noise in the media last season about Phillips being a healthy scratch meaning the Bills were ready to move on, he was gonna be traded etc - and yet he’s still here. From what McDermott and Beane have said after the season, and what happened to Phillips playing time, it now appears that he was benched because he really wasn’t healed enough from his injury and was struggling. He worked his way back into more playing time as the season progressed. I saw some pretty strong play out of Phillips at the end of last season. And we do know that the 1T job in McD’s system is not necessarily productive of stats, yes? Ie, the guy who is doing his job may be fairly “invisible” But at least you’re providing some information about what your opinion is based on, but a bit more than “benched because still injured and needed more time” would be more persuasive. 3
NewEra Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem I have is when “just a guy” and “replacement level player” is taken on face value as “honest criticism”. If there’s more depth to it than that, bring out the depth. If there isn’t more depth to it, IMHO it’s just taking a dump on a guy. We’ve seen plenty of similar “dumps” by folks who have some cred with some people, like PFF talking about Josh. In 2019, they said he was “below replacement level” etc etc etc. As it happens, they were wrong, but at least in their case they backed it up with their funky stats. C’mon Man, be better. There’s a lot of space between a 10,000 word thesis and a 6 word dump. One could, IDK, give 3-6 sentences? There was a lot of noise in the media last season about Phillips being a healthy scratch meaning the Bills were ready to move on, he was gonna be traded etc - and yet he’s still here. From what McDermott and Beane have said after the season, and what happened to Phillips playing time, it now appears that he was benched because he really wasn’t healed enough from his injury and was struggling. He worked his way back into more playing time as the season progressed. I saw some pretty strong play out of Phillips at the end of last season. And we do know that the 1T job in McD’s system is not necessarily productive of stats, yes? Ie, the guy who is doing his job may be fairly “invisible” But at least you’re providing some information about what your opinion is based on, but a bit more than “benched because still injured and needed more time” would be more persuasive. I hear ya. You have a different perspective as a mod and I respect that. I just saw his post as relaying info from a source many of us follow. I hadn’t heard Joe say that about Harrison, so I’m glad that he posted it. While he’s certainly not the Bible, I respect Marino’s opinion. He watches a ton of tape and provides some solid analysis imo. There are several 1 sentence posts in which people just drop their opinion with zero evidence to backup their opinion. 1
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