Lefties are mentally disturbed and must be stopped.

[Westside]

26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

this is an example of far left extremism

I would say mental illness.

[B-Man]

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

36 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

You're n idiot.  From your "us first" philosophy - saved thousands of Americans lives.  We didn't start the fire.

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Is this really a road that you want to go down? Florida is doing some crazy ***** right now.

[B-Man]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Is this really a road that you want to go down? Florida is doing some crazy ***** right now.

 

 

No.  They are not doing crazy sh*t right now.

 

I strongly suggest that you read the posts in the Desantis thread about the actual history curriculum vs the Leftist false narrative.

 

 

 

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[John from Riverside]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No.  They are not doing crazy sh*t right now.

 

I strongly suggest that you read the posts in the Desantis thread about the actual history curriculum vs the Leftist false narrative.

 

 

 

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They are literally trying to put in place a narrative that says that slavery was good because it taight Black people skills
 

I suggest that you do some reading

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

There was a time when Tiberius was the runaway leader in the dimmest bulb competition. Things are starting to heat up.

[B-Man]

22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

They are literally trying to put in place a narrative that says that slavery was good because it taight Black people skills
 

I suggest that you do some reading

 

 

Good God man, that is false.

 

It is NOT the way the subject is treated. . . . . . . . . "literally"

 

It doesn't say that slavery is good, but that some learned skills while they were working.

 

If you cannot see the difference then I feel sorry for you.

 

 

PS:  as it is with most leftist propaganda the section about learning is just a fractional amount of the curriculum, but it was the only thing that

       the Left could glom onto and spin for the masses to eat up.

 

 

 

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[The Frankish Reich]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

It doesn't say that slavery is good, but that some learned skills while they were working

And some trafficked children gained valuable skills. Guatemalans 13 year olds who otherwise would have led an impoverished life were trafficked to Ohio where the learned the job skills and discipline in meat-packing plants that may lead to gainful employment as adults. We must definitely refer to this when discussing trafficking of children. Some others learned skills that may be profitable in the adult film industry.

[B-Man]

7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

And as with the African American History in Florida, slavery is CONDEMNED as evil.

 

The fact that any "skills" were learned is just a footnote.

 

But keep clinging to that silliness as if the courses being taught are wrong.

 

No one buys it.

 

 

(I know that you were shown the actual curriculum notes in the Desantis thread, apparently it was too hard for you to click on that also.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited July 24, 2023 by B-Man

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Exactly.

 

And as with the African American History in Florida, slavery is CONDEMNED as evil.

 

The fact that any "skills" were learned is just a footnote.

 

But keep clinging to that silliness as if the courses being taught are wrong.

 

No one buys it.

 

 

(I know that you were shown the actual curriculum notes in the Desantis thread, apparently it was too hard for you to click on that also.

 

 

 

 

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I think you're missing my point. Which I though was pretty clear.

Would anyone ever think it's appropriate to say "some trafficked children benefited from being trafficked by learning marketable skills?" Of course not. 

And that's what slavery was: human trafficking. On a mega, state-endorsed level. 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

No one buys it.

false.  many posters here, including me, "buy it".

[Westside]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

false.  many posters here, including me, "buy it".

You should return it and get your money back.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

hardly surprising but satisfying validation.  I guess the MAGA's think all these D voters are mentally disturbed...it's false hope.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/21/gop-college-towns-00106974

 

Name the flagship university — Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Ohio, Texas, Virginia, among others — and the story tends to be the same. If the surrounding county was a reliable source of Democratic votes in the past, it’s a landslide county now. There are exceptions to the rule, particularly in the states with the most conservative voting habits. But even in reliably red places like South Carolina, Montana and Texas, you’ll find at least one college-oriented county producing ever larger Democratic margins.

Edited July 24, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I think you're missing my point. Which I though was pretty clear.

Would anyone ever think it's appropriate to say "some trafficked children benefited from being trafficked by learning marketable skills?" Of course not. 

And that's what slavery was: human trafficking. On a mega, state-endorsed level. 

 

 

 

I didn't miss it.

 

I am simply pointing out that the course  (like every other course in America, condemns slavery as evil,

 

You know what, I'll go to the other thread for you.

 

 

NBC reports that Kamala Harris intends to visit Florida today to criticize its new school curriculum:

 

In remarks Thursday, Harris blasted efforts in some states to ban books and “push forward revisionist history.”

 

“Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery,” she said at a convention for the traditionally Black sorority Delta Sigma Theta Inc. “They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.”

 

This is a brazen lie. It’s an astonishing lie. It’s an evil lie. It is so untrue — so deliberately and cynically misleading — that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.

 

So, below, I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document

 

Here’s the list. It’s 191 items strong. It contains the word “slave” 96 times, “slaves” 23 times, and “slavery” 45 times. I’ve pulled each line out in the order in which they appear, which is largely chronological. It starts with “the earliest slaves” and ends with “the integration of the University of Florida”:

 

( I won't paste the whole 191 points, but here is the one you are stuck on)

 

• Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

 

That's it.

 

That's the whole thing.  No slavery is good. 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-brazenly-lying-about-floridas-slavery-curriculum/

 

 

A group of predominantly African American educators created an extensive and detailed curriculum for African American history that includes dozens of references to the horrors of slavery, the inhumanity of the slave trade, and abolition efforts

 

Dishonest partisans, their media allies, and the VP are intentionally misleading people about the meaning and context of that one sentence, and thereby smearing those educators, to score political points against one tangentially related politician they don’t like.

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

false.  many posters here, including me, "buy it".

 

 

Well, I did say "adults"

 

but it's your right to ignore other opinions.

 

It says more about you than "powerline"

 

 

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[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

I didn't miss it.

 

I am simply pointing out that the course  (like every other course in America, condemns slavery as evil,

 

You know what, I'll go to the other thread for you.

 

 

NBC reports that Kamala Harris intends to visit Florida today to criticize its new school curriculum:

 

In remarks Thursday, Harris blasted efforts in some states to ban books and “push forward revisionist history.”

 

“Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery,” she said at a convention for the traditionally Black sorority Delta Sigma Theta Inc. “They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.”

 

This is a brazen lie. It’s an astonishing lie. It’s an evil lie. It is so untrue — so deliberately and cynically misleading — that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.

 

So, below, I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document

 

Here’s the list. It’s 191 items strong. It contains the word “slave” 96 times, “slaves” 23 times, and “slavery” 45 times. I’ve pulled each line out in the order in which they appear, which is largely chronological. It starts with “the earliest slaves” and ends with “the integration of the University of Florida”:

 

( I won't paste the whole 191 points, but here is the one you are stuck on)

 

• Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

 

That's it.

 

That's the whole thing.  No slavery is good. 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-brazenly-lying-about-floridas-slavery-curriculum/

 

 

A group of predominantly African American educators created an extensive and detailed curriculum for African American history that includes dozens of references to the horrors of slavery, the inhumanity of the slave trade, and abolition efforts

 

Dishonest partisans, their media allies, and the VP are intentionally misleading people about the meaning and context of that one sentence, and thereby smearing those educators, to score political points against one tangentially related politician they don’t like.

 

 

 

 

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So, in writing a high school social studies textbook with a chapter on Child Trafficking in the Modern World - a chapter that mentions the evils of that practice 100 or more times - would it be appropriate to include the lines I just suggested: "some trafficked children gained valuable job skills through their forced labor, and went on to productive careers working in meat packing plants or in the adult entertainment industry."

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I didn't miss it.

 

I am simply pointing out that the course  (like every other course in America, condemns slavery as evil,

 

You know what, I'll go to the other thread for you.

 

 

NBC reports that Kamala Harris intends to visit Florida today to criticize its new school curriculum:

 

In remarks Thursday, Harris blasted efforts in some states to ban books and “push forward revisionist history.”

 

“Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery,” she said at a convention for the traditionally Black sorority Delta Sigma Theta Inc. “They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.”

 

This is a brazen lie. It’s an astonishing lie. It’s an evil lie. It is so untrue — so deliberately and cynically misleading — that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.

 

So, below, I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document

 

Here’s the list. It’s 191 items strong. It contains the word “slave” 96 times, “slaves” 23 times, and “slavery” 45 times. I’ve pulled each line out in the order in which they appear, which is largely chronological. It starts with “the earliest slaves” and ends with “the integration of the University of Florida”:

 

( I won't paste the whole 191 points, but here is the one you are stuck on)

 

• Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

 

That's it.

 

That's the whole thing.  No slavery is good. 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-brazenly-lying-about-floridas-slavery-curriculum/

 

 

A group of predominantly African American educators created an extensive and detailed curriculum for African American history that includes dozens of references to the horrors of slavery, the inhumanity of the slave trade, and abolition efforts

 

Dishonest partisans, their media allies, and the VP are intentionally misleading people about the meaning and context of that one sentence, and thereby smearing those educators, to score political points against one tangentially related politician they don’t like.

 

 

 

 

.

 

 

Well, I did say "adults"

 

but it's your right to ignore other opinions.

 

It says more about you than "powerline"

 

 

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The reason I’ve chosen to leave the Democratic Party because of the intellectual dishonesty they continue to support. Onto saying the Republican Party is any better. They both are guilty, but the Democrats have taken it to a whole new level. 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

So, in writing a high school social studies textbook with a chapter on Child Trafficking in the Modern World - a chapter that mentions the evils of that practice 100 or more times - would it be appropriate to include the lines I just suggested: "some trafficked children gained valuable job skills through their forced labor, and went on to productive careers working in meat packing plants or in the adult entertainment industry."

 

 

The fact that some children in that horrible situation might have learned something that they used for their personal benefit in the lives is undeniable.

 

Just as they learn things in ANY situation.

 

But it's clear that you are stuck.

 

You want everyone to acknowledge your spin when it is NOT the point.  That's fine.

 

I will go with the authors.

 

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized ‘without context’

By Amber Jo Cooper

FTA:

Critics claimed page six, which stated instruction would include “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” was “inaccurate.”

 

It sparked Vice President Kamala Harris to announce she is speaking in Jacksonville on Friday.

 

However, Dr. William Allen and Dr. Frances Presley Rice, who created the standards, said the “intent” of this particular benchmark clarification is to “show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted.”

 

The two are members of Florida’s African American History Standards workgroup.

 

The creators said it is “disappointing,” but “nevertheless unsurprising, that critics would reduce months of work to create Florida’s first ever stand-alone strand of African American History Standards to a few isolated expressions without context.”

“The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted,” the creators said. “This is factual and well documented.”

 

“Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history,” the joint statement said. “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.”

 

https://flvoicenews.com/creators-of-african-american-school-standards-say-guidelines-criticized-without-context/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[John from Riverside]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I didn't miss it.

 

I am simply pointing out that the course  (like every other course in America, condemns slavery as evil,

 

You know what, I'll go to the other thread for you.

 

 

NBC reports that Kamala Harris intends to visit Florida today to criticize its new school curriculum:

 

In remarks Thursday, Harris blasted efforts in some states to ban books and “push forward revisionist history.”

 

“Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery,” she said at a convention for the traditionally Black sorority Delta Sigma Theta Inc. “They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.”

 

This is a brazen lie. It’s an astonishing lie. It’s an evil lie. It is so untrue — so deliberately and cynically misleading — that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.

 

So, below, I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document

 

Here’s the list. It’s 191 items strong. It contains the word “slave” 96 times, “slaves” 23 times, and “slavery” 45 times. I’ve pulled each line out in the order in which they appear, which is largely chronological. It starts with “the earliest slaves” and ends with “the integration of the University of Florida”:

 

( I won't paste the whole 191 points, but here is the one you are stuck on)

 

• Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

 

That's it.

 

That's the whole thing.  No slavery is good. 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-brazenly-lying-about-floridas-slavery-curriculum/

 

 

A group of predominantly African American educators created an extensive and detailed curriculum for African American history that includes dozens of references to the horrors of slavery, the inhumanity of the slave trade, and abolition efforts

 

Dishonest partisans, their media allies, and the VP are intentionally misleading people about the meaning and context of that one sentence, and thereby smearing those educators, to score political points against one tangentially related politician they don’t like.

 

 

 

 

.

 

 

Well, I did say "adults"

 

but it's your right to ignore other opinions.

 

It says more about you than "powerline"

 

 

.

Even whenever I read that bullet point over 10 times I still can’t find a way for it to come out as a positive
 

When you take it as a whole, what Florida is doing with their banning of CERT and then a new curriculum that talks about how there was some good things that happened from slavery

 

You’re trying to hard man it’s just a bad look

[B-Man]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Even whenever I read that bullet point over 10 times I still can’t find a way for it to come out as a positive
 

When you take it as a whole, what Florida is doing with their banning of CERT and then a new curriculum that talks about how there was some good things that happened from slavery

 

 

Read the response above yours.

 

and see if you can still say you can't find a way.

 

 

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