JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, BillStime said: And the obsession continues... In a thread about Fauci, you always love to try and make it about Trump... Can you see why having a conversation with you about any topic proves to be pointless, uneventful, and un-enlightening? It’s because you don’t seek truth...and you are blinded from truth by your resentment, hatred, and vengefulness... If I may be so bold, it’s quite unfortunate to see, and makes you no different than the extreme wackos on the Right who worship Trump no matter what... 1 1
BillStime Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: And the obsession continues... In a thread about Fauci, you always love to try and make it about Trump... Can you see why having a conversation with you about any topic proves to be pointless, uneventful, and un-enlightening? It’s because you don’t seek truth...and you are blinded from truth by your resentment, hatred, and vengefulness... If I may be so bold, it’s quite unfortunate to see, and makes you no different than the extreme wackos on the Right who worship Trump no matter what... The truth? Like this? Trump officials celebrated efforts to change CDC reports on coronavirus, emails show ‘Yippee!!!’: Trump officials celebrated efforts to change CDC reports on coronavirus, e-mails show Proud of Buffalo’s Caputo?
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: The truth? Like this? Trump officials celebrated efforts to change CDC reports on coronavirus, emails show ‘Yippee!!!’: Trump officials celebrated efforts to change CDC reports on coronavirus, e-mails show Proud of Buffalo’s Caputo? Dude, I get it! Trump wasn’t perfect by a long stretch...there are a million threads that discuss all of that ad nauseam...this thread is not one of them...stop trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda... This is not a “Trump vs Democrats on how to handle Covid” thread...but rather one that seeks to find the truth about the ORIGINS of Covid.
BillStime Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Dude, I get it! Trump wasn’t perfect by a long stretch...there are a million threads that discuss all of that ad nauseam...this thread is not one of them...stop trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda... This is not a “Trump vs Democrats on how to handle Covid” thread...but rather one that seeks to find the truth about the ORIGINS of Covid. lol - where does the buck stop?
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: lol - where does the buck stop? The buck stops with Trump getting voted out of office... Now that we got that out of the way, do you care about where the virus originated?
BillStime Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: The buck stops with Trump getting voted out of office... Now that we got that out of the way, do you care about where the virus originated? Not one bit - it doesn’t change what happened and doesn’t bring any of the people back that died from this virus. Explain to me how it matters?
Doc Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Dude, I get it! Trump wasn’t perfect by a long stretch...there are a million threads that discuss all of that ad nauseam...this thread is not one of them...stop trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda... This is not a “Trump vs Democrats on how to handle Covid” thread...but rather one that seeks to find the truth about the ORIGINS of Covid. It's more than just that: it's a thread to show how Trump was guided by someone who many would call incompetent, or to be kinder, who didn't have all the facts (and still doesn't appear to over a year later) during the crucial stages of the pandemic. And just like they don't care to admit that and blame it all on Trump, they don't care where/how the Chinese virus originated because that also leads away from Trump. 1
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BillStime said: Not one bit - it doesn’t change what happened and doesn’t bring any of the people back that died from this virus. Explain to me how it matters? Well, I agree with half of your first paragraph... You’re right that it can’t bring back the people we have already lost... However, the only way to help prevent another pandemic in the future is finding its root cause, so we don’t make the same mistake again...And finding a problem’s origin is, pretty much, how humanity has always learned to mitigate them, since the dawn of time...so, this logical thinking is nothing new... Therefore, in my opinion, EVERYONE should want to know the origins of Covid... Edited June 6, 2021 by JaCrispy 2
BillStime Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Well, I agree with half of your first paragraph... You’re right that it can’t bring back the people we have already lost... However, the only way to help prevent another pandemic in the future is finding its root cause, so we don’t make the same mistake again...And finding a problem’s origin is, pretty much, how humanity has always learned to mitigate them, since the dawn of time...so, this logical thinking is nothing new... Therefore, in my opinion, EVERYONE should want to know the origins of Covid... Oh - you don’t think the world is going to analyze how this virus came about? They will... ...but there is an implication that somehow the origin vindicates Trump - it doesn’t.
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 I'll be surprised if Fauci lasts until Friday given some of the developing stories I've seen over the weekend.
reddogblitz Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, BillStime said: ..but there is an implication that somehow the origin vindicates Trump - it doesn’t. Who said it vindicates Trump? I haven't heard anyone say that except you. 1
BillStime Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Who said it vindicates Trump? I haven't heard anyone say that except you.
Doc Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Who said it vindicates Trump? I haven't heard anyone say that except you. I am. Every time "the science" changes and I post "it's still all Trump's fault," it's me being facetious, saying that he was guided by these so-called experts who guided him poorly. 1
Backintheday544 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Dude, I get it! Trump wasn’t perfect by a long stretch...there are a million threads that discuss all of that ad nauseam...this thread is not one of them...stop trying to hijack this thread for your own agenda... This is not a “Trump vs Democrats on how to handle Covid” thread...but rather one that seeks to find the truth about the ORIGINS of Covid. To be fair, the OP didn’t really define the topic of the thread. They just posted a YouTube video with no comments or anything... let’s see who was the OP... ohhh
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 28 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: To be fair, the OP didn’t really define the topic of the thread. They just posted a YouTube video with no comments or anything... let’s see who was the OP... ohhh My friend, did you watch the video? The entire half hour was about new info that had come out about Covid origins, and how this new info makes Dr. Fauci seem less than forthright about it- at the very minimum...Between that and the title, it seemed pretty self explanatory to me... 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'll be surprised if Fauci lasts until Friday given some of the developing stories I've seen over the weekend. I’ve heard rumors that the Biden administration is quietly working on an exit strategy...we’ll see if it turns out to be true...
Backintheday544 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, JaCrispy said: My friend, did you watch the video? The entire half hour was about new info that had come out about Covid origins, and how this new info makes Dr. Fauci seem less than forthright about it- at the very minimum...Between that and the title, it seemed pretty self explanatory to me... I did. You posted a video with no comment or anything on your opinion. I can post a video of I Love Lucy where Lucy Ball can’t keep up with chocolate in a chocolate factory. Why did I post it? Who knows if I post a random video with no context.
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 Just now, Backintheday544 said: I did. You posted a video with no comment or anything on your opinion. I can post a video of I Love Lucy where Lucy Ball can’t keep up with chocolate in a chocolate factory. Why did I post it? Who knows if I post a random video with no context. Yeah, sometimes I just like to drop info and have discussion spark from that, rather than have my own opinion cloud what’s being reported...
Backintheday544 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Yeah, sometimes I just like to drop info and have discussion spark from that, rather than have my own opinion cloud what’s being reported... You’re not a spammer like bman... but I don’t see how that video matches your title.
JaCrispy Posted June 6, 2021 Author Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: You’re not a spammer like bman... but I don’t see how that video matches your title. Fauci’s original premise, from the beginning has always been that Covid was a natural occurrence from bat to humans...The title indicates that that premise may be starting to fall apart due to other virologists discrediting Fauci, due to certain Chinese crediting Fauci with his gain of function donations (even though he denies it), and due to Fauci’s own secret emails contradicting what he’s been telling the public... Listen to how Fauci denies doing something, and then in the very next sentence explaining why they are doing the very thing he denied... As more and more comes out, it just seems like there might be a conflict of interest between who was doing the research in Wuhan, and who is trying to cover up why and where the outbreak occurred in the first place... Edited June 6, 2021 by JaCrispy 1
Backintheday544 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Fauci’s original premise, from the beginning has always been that Covid was a natural occurrence from bat to humans...The title indicates that that premise may be starting to fall apart due to other virologists discrediting Fauci, due to certain Chinese crediting Fauci with his gain of function donations (even though he denies it), and due to Fauci’s own secret emails contradicting what he’s been telling the public... Listen to how Fauci denies doing something, and then in the very next sentence explaining why they are doing the very thing he denied... As more and more comes out, it just seems like there might be a conflict of interest between who was doing the research in Wuhan, and who is trying to cover up why and where the outbreak occurred in the first place... So it’s kind of like science where the original hypothesis is incorrect so you adjust. Except unlike science Fauci had to deal with science and political pressures as well. How many less deaths would there have been if Fauci said from day 1 it came from a Chinese lab? Is Paul’s (or insert random random name here’s) friend that died from COVID alive today if Fauci said China started the virus? Fauci is a scientist that never in his life expected to be thrust in a political role. If we weren’t in the era of Trump his job wouldn’t have been a political role either.
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