Blainorama5 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:08 PM, CorkScrewHill said: New England never fell into the trap of paying top dollar for that one guy who would come in and save the day - and they ended up with a dynasty. Expand True, but they did "stumble" onto arguably (hate even typing this) the best QB ever. **shudder** 🤑 Guys wanted to go play with him. When you have a great QB, that tends to help everything else on your team. Hoping that's the case with Allen now. 1
Eastport bills Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:08 PM, CorkScrewHill said: I would argue that most of our key players are ascending in their careers, not on the downside, so staying pat does bring along with it some room for improvement versus our competitors. New England never fell into the trap of paying top dollar for that one guy who would come in and save the day - and they ended up with a dynasty. I would also argue that home field would have helped tremendously and we did not have it last year, but it is certainly possible that we get to that point this year. Finally I would argue that the key to winning a Super Bowl is to be in the playoffs .. the more times you are in the better your chances that you will break through on one. Managing your cap puts you in position to not be one and done, but to be in the playoffs year after year .. which leads to chances to go the whole way. Expand Please don't compare NE to anything in your lifetime. They had the best talent evaluators and coaching in history. Don't count on ascending careers from our young guys when you're looking at Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and an O-line that dominated us 2 times last season. We have the core players to be a playoff team but don't delude yourself, there are glaring weaknesses that must be addressed if we want to win it all. Josh will get his deal soon and there will be less cap to play with. We have space created by Beane's maneuvers. A few key additions while our window is now will be key. 1
thenorthremembers Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:33 PM, Eastport bills said: Please don't compare NE to anything in your lifetime. They had the best talent evaluators and coaching in history. Don't count on ascending careers from our young guys when you're looking at Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and an O-line that dominated us 2 times last season. We have the core players to be a playoff team but don't delude yourself, there are glaring weaknesses that must be addressed if we want to win it all. Josh will get his deal soon and there will be less cap to play with. We have space created by Beane's maneuvers. A few key additions while our window is now will be key. Expand The best way to win a championship is to have the best Quarterback. If Allen gets to the point where he is better than Mahomes, the Bills will win a championship. In this era of football every team is going to have a glaring weakness outside of Quarterback. It isnt hard, score more point than the other team. 1
Rigotz Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 I'm happy to see that Steven Nelson has deleted his Twitter. The primary reason why I didn't want him is his loud mouth on Twitter. He is the epitome of a complainer. Great player, but really, really doesn't seem like a "process" guy. If the Bills do a deal with him, I'd like to see it 1-2 years, maximum.
Eastport bills Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:38 PM, thenorthremembers said: The best way to win a championship is to have the best Quarterback. If Allen gets to the point where he is better than Mahomes, the Bills will win a championship. In this era of football every team is going to have a glaring weakness outside of Quarterback. It isnt hard, score more point than the other team. Expand Assuming Allen and Mahomes are equal, (and that's optimistic on our part) don't you see the virtue in surrounding our guy with a comparable supporting cast. Look at Tampa's model. Brady's the GOAT and they have the best receivers, defense and TEs in football. That shows how teams that want to win championships operate. It's not being satisfied that we have a great young QB that needed everything to break just right to get to play KC. The way we lost had to show Beane and Sean that we are a few key players short.
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:33 PM, Eastport bills said: Please don't compare NE to anything in your lifetime. They had the best talent evaluators and coaching in history. Don't count on ascending careers from our young guys when you're looking at Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and an O-line that dominated us 2 times last season. We have the core players to be a playoff team but don't delude yourself, there are glaring weaknesses that must be addressed if we want to win it all. Josh will get his deal soon and there will be less cap to play with. We have space created by Beane's maneuvers. A few key additions while our window is now will be key. Expand Our window is far more than “now”, Beane & Co, are setting up this franchise to have an extended window of a decade or more, your thinking is far to short sighted, The FO is not interested in a two year window and then in effect, sucking for years afterwards, it’s just not part of their DNA, you may as well get used to this way of thinking about the team, because that’s what has been, and will continue to be happening at OBD. Just is, wether you or I like it or not. Go Bills!!! 1 1
Eastport bills Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:40 PM, Don Otreply said: Our window is far more than “now”, Beane & Co, are setting up this franchise to have an extended window of a decade or more, your thinking is far to short sighted, The FO is not interested in a two year window and then in effect, sucking for years afterwards, it’s just not part of their DNA, you may as well get used to this way of thinking about the team, because that’s what has been, and will continue to be happening at OBD. Just is, wether you or I like it or not. Go Bills!!! Expand Don't be satisfied with making the playoffs. No championships for 50 big ones. I promised my kids when I put them in this meat grinder known as Bills Fandom that we'd see a championship in our lifetime and now is the time. We have the infrastructure,it's just putting the last pieces together. 1
4BillsintheBurgh Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:50 PM, Eastport bills said: Don't be satisfied with making the playoffs. No championships for 50 big ones. I promised my kids when I put them in this meat grinder known as Bills Fandom that we'd see a championship in our lifetime and now is the time. We have the infrastructure,it's just putting the last pieces together. Expand Lesson here is don't promise things to your kids you can't deliver. 1
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:50 PM, Eastport bills said: Don't be satisfied with making the playoffs. No championships for 50 big ones. I promised my kids when I put them in this meat grinder known as Bills Fandom that we'd see a championship in our lifetime and now is the time. We have the infrastructure,it's just putting the last pieces together. Expand Perspective merely needs to be adjusted, you can as well rest assured that they are simultaneously trying to win it all, every year…
Eastport bills Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:52 PM, 4BillsintheBurgh said: Lesson here is don't promise things to your kids you can't deliver. Expand Too late, but thanks. On 7/21/2021 at 3:53 PM, Don Otreply said: Perspective merely needs to be adjusted, you can as well rest assured that they are simultaneously trying to win it all, every year… Expand Listen, 9 million unspent cap money. Tic tok 1
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:59 PM, Eastport bills said: Too late, but thanks. Listen, 9 million unspent cap money. Tic tok Expand Beane knows which end is up, and has been involved in acquiring Nelson for some time now, it is Nelson where the problem lies, it is not Beane who has not shown interest, that and consider this, is Nelson the player who puts us over the top? Answer = Not likely. Go Bills!!!
BeastMode54 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Lotta Steven Nelson chatter. Seems like he either ends up back with the Steelers or the Eagles will sign him. But they would need cap space. Cap casualty. Zach Ertz. And around and around we keep going...
fergie's ire Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 5:56 PM, BeastMode54 said: Lotta Steven Nelson chatter. Seems like he either ends up back with the Steelers or the Eagles will sign him. But they would need cap space. Cap casualty. Zach Ertz. And around and around we keep going... Expand Wait....so you're saying the latest Steven Nelson rumors suggest his signing creates a path to us getting Zach Ertz? Sounds like we need a new Zach Ertz thread. 1
Blainorama5 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Well, sounds like Ertz is off the table now (according to some incredibly reliable rumor threads that have been closed) 😜 so it's ALL IN on Nelson or Short now!!!
Don Otreply Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 5:50 PM, ScottLaw said: He would give the team some depth where they lack it and a better option opposite White than Wallace, so yea, he could be the player that helps bring this team a SB. Expand “Could be”, not very likely though, there are some who have said that he is barely any better than Wallace, hell Dane Jackson could be the guy, that’s why none of us run pro football teams. He at best appears to be “slightly “ better than Wallace, and to expensive for that small margin, so he sits unemployed…
rayray808 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Nelson shut down his twitter... hopefully one of our WRs does the same 1
Frat-Train Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 I hope he can shut down wideouts like he did his Twitter account! 1
nedboy7 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 5:50 PM, ScottLaw said: He would give the team some depth where they lack it and a better option opposite White than Wallace, so yea, he could be the player that helps bring this team a SB. Expand I remember you saying the Bills lack elite talent after DIggs, Allen and White and that's why they couldn't get over the KC hump. So now you are suggesting Nelson could be the piece that puts them over the top? Funny stuff right there. 1
Bangarang Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Just saw Beane at Tempo sitting in a booth with Kaawan Short and Nelson. Heard it was a booth for 4 and Ertz was running late. 3
billsbackto81 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 11:13 PM, nedboy7 said: I remember you saying the Bills lack elite talent after DIggs, Allen and White and that's why they couldn't get over the KC hump. So now you are suggesting Nelson could be the piece that puts them over the top? Funny stuff right there. Expand Funny as it may be, he's better than anything we have currently at CB2. Hope I'm not upsetting the Levi Wallace fan boys. 😠 He may not be considered elite but he'd be a solid acquisition.
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