Doc Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Perhaps, that's not how it is working out. and No, it's pay me with pre tax or pay me with post tax$. Why do I feel you're purposefully being opaque?🤔 I'll stop after posting the 1st thing I found on a search: "This shows that the tax system is not progressive when it comes to the wealthy. The richest 1% pay an effective federal income tax rate of 24.7%. That is a little more than the 19.3% rate paid by someone making an average of $75,000. And 1 out of 5 millionaires pays a lower rate than someone making $50,000 to $100,000." Fact Sheet: Taxing Wealthy Americans So flat tax? 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Perhaps, that's not how it is working out. and No, it's pay me with pre tax or pay me with post tax$. Why do I feel you're purposefully being opaque?🤔 I'll stop after posting the 1st thing I found on a search: "This shows that the tax system is not progressive when it comes to the wealthy. The richest 1% pay an effective federal income tax rate of 24.7%. That is a little more than the 19.3% rate paid by someone making an average of $75,000. And 1 out of 5 millionaires pays a lower rate than someone making $50,000 to $100,000." Fact Sheet: Taxing Wealthy Americans So EIGHTY PERCENT pay a higher tax rate. What am I missing here????? 1
ALF Posted April 19, 2023 Posted April 19, 2023 Trump's lawyers keep getting in trouble with judges. Here are the 17 sanctioned so far. Seventeen different lawyers have been sanctioned over failed lawsuits brought on the former president's behalf. Their attempts include litigation seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and pushing a conspiracy theory blaming the Russia investigation on a smattering of Democratic party operatives. Many of Trump's lawyers, even if they are not sanctioned, end up needing lawyers of their own to ward off the worst consequences. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-sanctioned-by-courts-election-lawsuits-2022-12 Trumps dream team just keeps winning
ChiGoose Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 Mike Lindell’s firm told to pay $5 million in ‘Prove Mike Wrong’ election-fraud challenge "MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a “cyber symposium” he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year’s U.S. election. He called the challenge “Prove Mike Wrong.” On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone had. The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout. Zeidman had examined Lindell’s data and concluded that it not only did not prove voter fraud, it had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show." Funny how every time one of the Big Lie claims enters the legal realm, it fails. Almost as if the people spouting it are liars and idiots. But I suppose when one of your most important sources is someone who claims that they were decapitated and can speak to the wind as a ghost (p. 163), you just have to believe them.
The Frankish Reich Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Mike Lindell’s firm told to pay $5 million in ‘Prove Mike Wrong’ election-fraud challenge "MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a “cyber symposium” he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year’s U.S. election. He called the challenge “Prove Mike Wrong.” On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone had. The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout. Zeidman had examined Lindell’s data and concluded that it not only did not prove voter fraud, it had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show." Funny how every time one of the Big Lie claims enters the legal realm, it fails. Almost as if the people spouting it are liars and idiots. But I suppose when one of your most important sources is someone who claims that they were decapitated and can speak to the wind as a ghost (p. 163), you just have to believe them. This is hilarious. Actual computer forensics expert decides to take Mr Pillow up on his challenge. Goes to his conference where Lindell said "Prove that what I show you is not real 2020 election data." Reviews the "data." Turns out its not data at all; just random numbers and letters, a lot of it in pdf format. Claims the $5 million prize. Lindell denies the claim. Expert files for arbitration, which was a clause included in the contest. Then Lindell's lawyers come back with this: Lindell testified at arbitration that he did not share what he had described as his key data to support the foreign intrusion claim during the conference. He held off, he said, after a man seeking a selfie poked him in the side as the symposium was nearing an end — an act that Lindell called an assault and said he took as a signal the government might tamper with his central information if he made it public. Lindell told the panel that, after the incident, his “red team” advisers warned him against making that information public. “They said it could be a poison pill put in the data and we really shouldn’t release the China stuff,” he said. Got that? Lindell called his conference to share his blockbuster data. We find out it isn't even something that can be called "data." Lindell responds: but I didn't let you see the real damning stuff! It was too dangerous to release that!! Geez, I'm beginning to think that Trump won't be restored as President after all. 1
BillStime Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 The Big Lie was ALWAYS a lie... A second firm hired by Trump campaign found no evidence of election fraud
BillStime Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 “A rigged election” Donald Trump May 10, 2023 8:03pm The Big Lie must never die
Andy1 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 The big lie must never die and the number one commandment in the cult is “ Thou shall not say anything that contradicts the lie”. Truth is what we want it to be. 1
T master Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/9/2021 at 10:15 PM, BillStime said: Two years before the 2020 election, the conspiracy that Donald Trump won the election was part of a plot cooked up by a Texas Republican businessman The making of a myth He may have lied about the election but what's the difference in those that are in place now using the socialist doctrine to remake the country ? Have all depend on the gov't for health care, take away their guns, flood the country with as many immigrants was possible so the financial structure of the country fails so all will be dependent on the gov't, create more sickness by allowing chemicals known to cause disease in our food sources, create hyper inflation . Making of a myth is that the president gives a S**T about the country and it's future talk about a POS ... Plus the more illegals he let's in the more votes he'll get that's why he's AWOL while title 42 goes away & 83000 last week+ more than AT&T stadium holds at capacity came across the border . But you don't care about that !!
Andy1 Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, T master said: Have all depend on the gov't for health care I have an idea…. Let’s require people to have health insurance so government doesn’t have to pay the hospital bills for the uninsured.
BillStime Posted May 15, 2023 Author Posted May 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, T master said: He may have lied about the election but what's the difference in those that are in place now using the socialist doctrine to remake the country ? Have all depend on the gov't for health care, take away their guns, flood the country with as many immigrants was possible so the financial structure of the country fails so all will be dependent on the gov't, create more sickness by allowing chemicals known to cause disease in our food sources, create hyper inflation . Making of a myth is that the president gives a S**T about the country and it's future talk about a POS ... Plus the more illegals he let's in the more votes he'll get that's why he's AWOL while title 42 goes away & 83000 last week+ more than AT&T stadium holds at capacity came across the border . But you don't care about that !! Who’s remaking America? Which states are passing laws limiting the rights of people? But you don’t care about that !!
Tommy Callahan Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Andy1 said: I have an idea…. Let’s require people to have health insurance so government doesn’t have to pay the hospital bills for the uninsured. I have an idea. Allow people to purchase Medicare based on income. It becomes the low cost state option. Cause private low cost insurance is garbage. Eff. High priced private insurance is garbage 1
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