Chef Jim Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 6 hours ago, BillStime said: So you're finally getting it. Good job!
Chef Jim Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: Biden won fair and square Yup.
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 9 hours ago, 716er said: There is not a problem that needs reform. The problem is the lie. Reforming the system to make the lie more believable is contributing to the lie, not contributing to the fairness of the electoral process. Interesting argument- we need to have an election actually stolen before we should consider how to make it more secure. How about we recognize that the 2020 election was the least secure in some time due to a pandemic and take lessons from it, how about we try to make voting more accessible compared to 2016 while making it more secure than 2020. 1
Unforgiven Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 10 hours ago, T master said: And that is the exact reason that there needs to be voting reform how ever it needs to be made so that this kind of BS that you are talking about doesn't happen and every vote from every American that wants to vote counts so that the people & not the politicians or those truly in power decide how the elections are won & lost . We can figure out DNA but not a freakin way to keep integrity in the way these crooked politicians are elected things as simple as a watermark on every mail in ballot but we would rather listen to our selves B**CH about it than look to common sense change to keep the politicians (ALL OF THEM) in line . Those that started the US Republic are turning over in their graves !! By the way WTH is a Beer Hall Putsch for those of us less informed than you Tibs ? Someone compared the democrat party to nazis, so like a good dnc cultist, hes doing his best Saul Alinsky impression: "Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt"
Doc Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 The BIG LIE is the claim that there is no/minimal voting fraud, hence no need to make sure elections are more secure with voter ID. How do you catch fraud if you're not looking/allowed to look for it? The fact of the matter is that more than a few people will try to lie, cheat and steal to gain something from anyone/anything, and it's obviously advantageous to have your kind of people in power.
BillStime Posted May 11, 2021 Author Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doc said: The BIG LIE is the claim that there is no/minimal voting fraud, hence no need to make sure elections are more secure with voter ID. How do you catch fraud if you're not looking/allowed to look for it? The fact of the matter is that more than a few people will try to lie, cheat and steal to gain something from anyone/anything, and it's obviously advantageous to have your kind of people in power. Nope. 1
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: How about we recognize that the 2020 election was the least secure in some time due to a pandemic and take lessons from it That would be supporting the lie. The 2020 election was the most secure in US history. 1 1
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Doc said: How do you catch fraud if you're not looking/allowed to look for it? How did Trump's voter fraud commission do? They were looking, allowed to, and supported by the president. Disbanded because they didn't find a thing. 2 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 716er said: That would be supporting the lie. The 2020 election was the most secure in US history. Why was it more secure than the one in 2012 or 2016? You actually believe that making law changes less than 4 months before an election that increased the number of ballots being sent out to unconfirmed addresses made it more secure? I can't imagine being that dumb 1
Doc Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 716er said: How did Trump's voter fraud commission do? They were looking, allowed to, and supported by the president. Disbanded because they didn't find a thing. Again, how do you discover that people voted fraudulently?
716er Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Doc said: Again, how do you discover that people voted fraudulently? Like this? https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/551735-trump-supporter-admits-to-voter-fraud-after-casting-dead-mothers Local investigators said they began investigating when rumors began circulating about a ballot being illegally cast on social media. A complaint was eventually filed to the Delaware County Board of Elections, the Inquirer reported, and a task force was able to find evidence of a possible crime. Bartman was arrested in December and was one of three Pennsylvania men accused of committing fraud to vote for Trump. The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the other two criminal cases are still pending. 1
Tiberius Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Why was it more secure than the one in 2012 or 2016? You actually believe that making law changes less than 4 months before an election that increased the number of ballots being sent out to unconfirmed addresses made it more secure? I can't imagine being that dumb Sore loser!
Doc Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, 716er said: Like this? https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/551735-trump-supporter-admits-to-voter-fraud-after-casting-dead-mothers Local investigators said they began investigating when rumors began circulating about a ballot being illegally cast on social media. A complaint was eventually filed to the Delaware County Board of Elections, the Inquirer reported, and a task force was able to find evidence of a possible crime. Bartman was arrested in December and was one of three Pennsylvania men accused of committing fraud to vote for Trump. The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the other two criminal cases are still pending. Yeah...that's not it.
Chef Jim Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: The BIG LIE - LIVE: Yeah we saw that the first time. 🙄
BillStime Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Yeah we saw that the first time. 🙄
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Awesome! The part I love of this obsession with Jan 6th is that most of the people that did illegal things that day have been arrested and will be tried. At the same time so many of the people who did illegal things all of 2020 that were arrested will not be charged. I do not know anyone who supports the Jan 6th events but I know a lot of liberals who support the same actions against Trump. 1
Niagara Bill Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 10:22 PM, Buffalo Timmy said: Why was it more secure than the one in 2012 or 2016? You actually believe that making law changes less than 4 months before an election that increased the number of ballots being sent out to unconfirmed addresses made it more secure? I can't imagine being that dumb But yet your acceptance of the big lie proves you are Tim. 1 1
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