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  On 6/25/2021 at 5:24 PM, Doc said:

 

Where?  

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I would actually set an adult minimum wage and one for kids.

 

if you’re business can run with kids, go ahead  and hire kids. If not, you’re paying $15 hour.

 

That gets the old “fast food jobs are for kids” model back that existed and ended in the 1980’s.

  On 6/25/2021 at 5:35 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


What planet do you live on? 

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When was the last time you paid rent? Apartments in Florida are 1500 a month. They’re 1600 here. When we looked in Frederick, MD, it was 1800-2000/month.

 

Have a look…

https://www.apartments.com/tampa-fl/
 

 

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  On 6/25/2021 at 5:37 PM, Governor said:

I would actually set an adult minimum wage and one for kids.

 

if you’re business can run with kids, go ahead  and hire kids. If not, you’re paying $15 hour.

 

That gets the old “fast food jobs are for kids” model back that existed and ended in the 1980’s.

When was the last time you paid rent? Apartments in Florida are 1500 a month. They’re 1600 here. When we looked in Frederick, MD, it was 1800-2000/month.

 

Have a look…

https://www.apartments.com/tampa-fl/
 

 

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I just found 1168 apartments in Maryland for under $1000/mo and almost 3000 around Tampa alone. What kind of palace do you expect a high schooler on minimum wage needs? 

  On 6/25/2021 at 5:56 PM, Governor said:

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you. Florida isn’t cheap at all and hasn’t been since the late 90’s.

 

How could a 12.50 an hour Publix worker afford that rent in Tampa?

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Minimum wage was never meant to be a career…

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:03 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I just found 1168 apartments in Maryland for under $1000/mo and almost 3000 around Tampa alone. What kind of palace do you expect a high schooler on minimum wage needs? 

Minimum wage was never meant to be a career…

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I’ve never seen someone so out of touch with how the working class lives in a state like Florida.

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:09 PM, Governor said:

I’ve never seen someone so out of touch with how the working class lives in a state like Florida.

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https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm
 

Half the minimum wage earners are under 25. It’s less than 3% of the population.  I don’t know Florida up close fine, but cost of living varies massively regionally. City and county wage floors may make sense. A federal one does not.

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  On 6/25/2021 at 4:43 PM, Governor said:

The old “kiosk” boogeyman didn’t stop states from moving forward.

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Have you bought anything to eat in the Newark airport in the last 4 or 5years?

 

Here's links to a few companies selling the technology already.

 

https://kiosk.com/market-solutions/order-entry/

 

https://www.touchbistro.com

 

https://www.oracle.com/industries/food-beverage/restaurant-pos-systems/pos-hardware/self-service-kiosks/

 

You can bury your head in the sand and say companies will knuckle under and pay more or go out of bidness.  My point is they have other options which you seem to discount.  We'll see how it works out.

 

 

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  On 6/25/2021 at 11:22 AM, SectionC3 said:

 

Probably because your dear leader thought COVID-19 was a hoax and refused to take any meaningful steps to mitigate it before hundreds of thousands of people died and the economy was nearly shattered last year.  That's what started the whole thing.  Now people are used to their Trump Socialism handouts and we have to wean ourselves from such monies.  The free money should have stopped awhile ago.  But you have nobody but Trump to blame for this mess. 

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So one person to blame?  What should he have done differently above and beyond what he did that would have saved us all?  
 

 

  On 6/25/2021 at 5:04 PM, Governor said:

In NJ, you can make like 2000/month and still qualify for FULL HC and FULL dental through the state. No co-pays.

 

Floridians, think about that. That would cover like 75 percent of your entire workforce. 
 

FULL DENTAL!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Brush, floss and regular cleanings and dental insurance is a waste of money.  
 

FULL DENTAL!!  🙄

 

 

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:16 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm
 

Half the minimum wage earners are under 25. It’s less than 3% of the population.  I don’t know Florida up close fine, but cost of living varies massively regionally. City and county wage floors may make sense. A federal one does not.

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I work at Publix as the grocery “team leader” and make 13.25 an hour. I’m not a kid. A kid can’t perform this job. Most of my friends are 25-45 and fall in this income.
 

Using this formula, show me where I can live in Tampa as a single male with no children. This should be entertaining.

 

Go with a ratio multiplier. In this case, the standard multiplier is 3. That means that the applicant should make at least three times his or her gross monthly income to cover rental expenses. The math would look like this:

Monthly Rent X 3 = Minimum monthly rental income

For example, if the rent on an apartment costs $1,500 per month, then the applicant must gross a minimum of $4,500 per month in income. The math:

$1,500 X 3 = $4,500

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:27 PM, Governor said:

I work at Publix as the grocery “team leader” and make 13.25 an hour. I’m not a kid. A kid can’t perform this job. Most of my friends are 25-45 and fall in this income.
 

Using this formula, show me where I can live in Tampa as a single male with no children. This should be entertaining.

 

Go with a ratio multiplier. In this case, the standard multiplier is 3. That means that the applicant should make at least three times his or her gross monthly income to cover rental expenses. The math would look like this:

Monthly Rent X 3 = Minimum monthly rental income

For example, if the rent on an apartment costs $1,500 per month, then the applicant must gross a minimum of $4,500 per month in income. The math:

$1,500 X 3 = $4,500

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I’m jumping in the middle here but you want to live in Tampa find a job that pays $54k a year.  That’s exactly our entry level salary in my firm.  

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:33 PM, Chef Jim said:


I’m jumping in the middle here but you want to live in Tampa find a job that pays $54k a year.  That’s exactly our entry level salary in my firm.  

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That would be great but people need to understand that most adults in Florida don’t get that opportunity and work in restaurants, grocery stores, and hotels on the beach, gig work, traveling nurses, etc.

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:35 PM, Governor said:

That would be great but people need to understand that most adults in Florida don’t get that opportunity and work in restaurants, grocery stores, and hotels on the beach, gig work, traveling nurses, etc.

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And guess what?  You get a roommate and now you’re at $27k a year.  It’s not rocket surgery. 
 

You do realize you’re talking to a guy who worked in restaurants for years in LA and survived?  To the point of early retiremen

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:23 PM, Chef Jim said:


So one person to blame?  What should he have done differently above and beyond what he did that would have saved us all?  
 

 


Brush, floss and regular cleanings and dental insurance is a waste of money.  
 

FULL DENTAL!!  🙄

 

 

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Chef Jim Crow: “The buck stops somewhere else!”  “Lysol is an effective COVID treatment!”  “Masks are for losers, just like blackout curtains were in Hawaii on December 8, 1941!” “It’s their new hoax!” “It will magically disappear in April!”  I could keep going, but I think you get the point. 

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:40 PM, Chef Jim said:


And guess what?  You get a roommate and now you’re at $27k a year.  It’s not rocket surgery. 
 

You do realize you’re talking to a guy who worked in restaurants for years in LA and survived?  To the point of early retiremen

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So, I’m 45 years old, and now you’re telling me I should go backwards to how I lived when I was 22 and get a booger eating roommate just to be able to live in Florida and not starve? That doesn’t sound like freedom to me.

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  On 6/25/2021 at 6:27 PM, Governor said:

I work at Publix as the grocery “team leader” and make 13.25 an hour. I’m not a kid. A kid can’t perform this job. Most of my friends are 25-45 and fall in this income.
 

Using this formula, show me where I can live in Tampa as a single male with no children. This should be entertaining.

 

Go with a ratio multiplier. In this case, the standard multiplier is 3. That means that the applicant should make at least three times his or her gross monthly income to cover rental expenses. The math would look like this:

Monthly Rent X 3 = Minimum monthly rental income

For example, if the rent on an apartment costs $1,500 per month, then the applicant must gross a minimum of $4,500 per month in income. The math:

$1,500 X 3 = $4,500

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Your Tampa dreams can come true. 750/mo. Puts you right into your 3x multiple 

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4716-N-Hubert-Ave-APT-B-Tampa-FL-33614/2070181052_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

 

Convenient to airport 

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  On 6/25/2021 at 7:00 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
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That’s a nice duplex you have there. That’s in Town-n-Country. 


You trying to get me killed???  
 

Edit: That’s actually worse than Town n Country. Hillsborough and Armenia is a really dangerous area. Definitely don’t let your college aged daughter move near there.

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  On 6/25/2021 at 7:06 PM, Governor said:

That’s a nice duplex you have there. That’s in Town-n-Country. 


You trying to get me killed???  

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Oh you have other criteria… ok I’ll keep looking.  
 

You know I’m 45 too. I put myself through engineering school and business school and The mortgage for first townhouse in 2008 was around $1500/mo. 
 

is there any chance your taste / standard of living aren’t aligned with your willingness to earn it? 
 

650!!! and a pool!?!?? 
 

https://www.zillow.com/b/27.868904,-82.513609_ll?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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