Ya Digg? Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Gee, when I was working, I lived in the city where I was working. You’re kidding right?
Saxum Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 Ja'Wuan James considering grievance to recoup potential lost 2021 salary from Denver Broncos, source says https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31449350/jawuan-james-considering-grievance-recoup-potential-lost-2021-salary-source-says Quote Former Denver Broncos offensive tackle Ja'Wuan James is strongly considering filing a grievance through the NFL Players Association for lost wages after he tore his Achilles tendon away from the team facility. James, who was released Friday with a post-June 1 designation, could seek more than $10 million in salary for the 2021 season that the Broncos appear likely won't cover after they designated him with a non-football injury. This is NFL's reaction to NFLPA telling players to not go to NFL teams facilities due to "risk of COVID" while at same time not allowing teams to make it mandatory.
Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Ja'Wuan James considering grievance to recoup potential lost 2021 salary from Denver Broncos, source says https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31449350/jawuan-james-considering-grievance-recoup-potential-lost-2021-salary-source-says This is NFL's reaction to NFLPA telling players to not go to NFL teams facilities due to "risk of COVID" while at same time not allowing teams to make it mandatory. James should sue the NFLPA for giving such crappy advice. 1 1
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 His grievance has no chance of winning. It has no basis. 1 1
Rochesterfan Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Ja'Wuan James considering grievance to recoup potential lost 2021 salary from Denver Broncos, source says https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31449350/jawuan-james-considering-grievance-recoup-potential-lost-2021-salary-source-says This is NFL's reaction to NFLPA telling players to not go to NFL teams facilities due to "risk of COVID" while at same time not allowing teams to make it mandatory. I doubt his suing the Broncos would work as it is collectively bargained and players have lost this in the past. The issue was not what James did, but the NFLPA arbitrarily telling players to stay away without an agreement. James should go after the NFLPA for bad advice, but I am sure like many unions the becoming of a member means you can not challenge their rulings. Edited May 15, 2021 by Rochesterfan 1
Saxum Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I doubt his suing the Broncos would work as it is collectively bargained and players have lost this in the past. The issue was not what James did, but the NFLPA arbitrarily telling players to stay away without an agreement. James should go after the NFLPA for bad advice, but I am sure like many unions the becoming of a member means you can not challenge their rulings. Unions can be sued and its officers can be sued just like corporation officers. It is likely the NFLPA has coverage for its officers for these type of lawsuits.
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I doubt his suing the Broncos would work as it is collectively bargained and players have lost this in the past. The issue was not what James did, but the NFLPA arbitrarily telling players to stay away without an agreement. James should go after the NFLPA for bad advice, but I am sure like many unions the becoming of a member means you can not challenge their rulings. Plus he signed a contract which no doubt explicitly describes non-football injury salary exclusion. Just now, Limeaid said: Unions can be sued and its officers can be sued just like corporation officers. It is likely the NFLPA has coverage for its officers for these type of lawsuits. Sue them for what?
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 7:07 PM, NewEra said: Opt out = injuries. That’s my prediction. Almost half our draft class didn’t play last year either Yeah, it definitely didn’t help Le’veon Bell’s career.
Rochesterfan Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Unions can be sued and its officers can be sued just like corporation officers. It is likely the NFLPA has coverage for its officers for these type of lawsuits. Typically to sue a Union - a member has to first go through the NLRB board and prove misrepresentation. The NLRB will then review and sanction the Union - then there is an option to sue. Very, very few lawyers would start out trying to sue a Union because the burden of proof that the Union purposely provided bad representation. The issue in this case is that the Union gave terrible advice trying to force the NFL away from OTA’s and it will cost 2 of their members their salary and for James that was a significant amount.
Saxum Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Typically to sue a Union - a member has to first go through the NLRB board and prove misrepresentation. The NLRB will then review and sanction the Union - then there is an option to sue. Very, very few lawyers would start out trying to sue a Union because the burden of proof that the Union purposely provided bad representation. The issue in this case is that the Union gave terrible advice trying to force the NFL away from OTA’s and it will cost 2 of their members their salary and for James that was a significant amount. yes and they should be compensation by union not teams but they tried to blame NFL and teams for bad advice. Quote The NFLPA responded two days later in an email to players that said: "It was gutless to use a player's serious injury as a scare tactic to get you to come running back to these workouts.'' Free-agent safety and NFLPA executive board member Michael Thomas also told ESPN's Dan Graziano this week that "all the players are watching" how James' situation plays out. As I have said often the NFLPA is called "partner" but they do not act like it. 1
Mr. WEO Posted May 16, 2021 Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: Ja'Wuan James considering grievance to recoup potential lost 2021 salary from Denver Broncos, source says https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31449350/jawuan-james-considering-grievance-recoup-potential-lost-2021-salary-source-says This is NFL's reaction to NFLPA telling players to not go to NFL teams facilities due to "risk of COVID" while at same time not allowing teams to make it mandatory. 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: James should sue the NFLPA for giving such crappy advice. 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: yes and they should be compensation by union not teams but they tried to blame NFL and teams for bad advice. As I have said often the NFLPA is called "partner" but they do not act like it. There is no basis to "sue" the NFLPA either--even more so in this guy's case. The entire team released a letter saying they weren't going to show up for OTAs. These are grown men who made a collective decision. They weren't forced or coerced into, as a group, deciding not to go. THEY made a decision that has put at least 2 of their colleagues out of a lot of money. The Bills players, I'm pretty certain, are represented by the same union, got the same advice from the union.....and showed up to OTAs. The Broncos players certainly understood that if they got injured working out away from the facility, they would be termed "non-football" injuries and lose money. They made their choice anyway. Only themselves to blame.
aristocrat Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31583993/jawuan-james-files-15-million-grievance-denver-broncos-source-says James is going to try and prove the facility was not covid compliant, that he was working out with other broncos players directed by broncos coaches instructions and that the league conspired with the broncos to cut him.
BornAgainBillsFan Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31583993/jawuan-james-files-15-million-grievance-denver-broncos-source-says James is going to try and prove the facility was not covid compliant, that he was working out with other broncos players directed by broncos coaches instructions and that the league conspired with the broncos to cut him. If he's got proof that the coaches instructed them to work offsite...game, set and match!! But he better have something in writing. No other player is climbing out on that limb with him. Non-guaranteed contracts make cowards of us all. 😄
Malazan Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31583993/jawuan-james-files-15-million-grievance-denver-broncos-source-says James is going to try and prove the facility was not covid compliant, that he was working out with other broncos players directed by broncos coaches instructions and that the league conspired with the broncos to cut him. He'll also be trying to prove the boogieman is real. This is once again, DeMaurice Smith & JC Tretter, making a massive blunder and now trying to resolve is through the 'courts' and they'll lose again. They use these legal proceedings to cover up their incompetence. Maybe stop getting your a**es handed to you in every negotiation you have with the NFL and you won't have to go through with these stupid theatrics.
aristocrat Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: He'll also be trying to prove the boogieman is real. This is once again, DeMaurice Smith & JC Tretter, making a massive blunder and now trying to resolve is through the 'courts' and they'll lose again. They use these legal proceedings to cover up their incompetence. Maybe stop getting your a**es handed to you in every negotiation you have with the NFL and you won't have to go through with these stupid theatrics. lol i can't believe he didnt get fired during that lockout year after he never told the playeres they had insurance money to cover the players salaries. then the players took out all those loans and lenders started calling and they caved. just a monumental screw up 1
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