YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He is not a fast twitch guy. But great length, good hands, wins with leverage and productive in college. I like the pick although I do have a couple if niggling doubts 1. Having sat out the year turning up at his pro day not in top shape was a bad look. 2. I just worry with he and Epenesa we have two guys who would look great opposite that quick twitch guy who can fly off the edge and that is after spending two premium picks at the spot. He ran fast at his pro day, that is one good thing. Do you think Obada is quick twitch?
JMF2006 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 Bills got an "A" https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-draft-day-1-quick-snap-grades-for-all-32-teams 1 1
OZBILLS Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 No idea. Everyone I have loved has let me down so I have nothing to lose 1 1
JMF2006 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Looks like everyone got an A or B except the Texans with no pick and a D and NO with a C Edited April 30, 2021 by JMF2006
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He ran fast at his pro day, that is one good thing. Do you think Obada is quick twitch? Pretty average in that regard. We do have a clear sense of what they like at edge by now though. They love length and they value that more than that explosive first step, although as Brandon referenced Rousseau's first 10 split in the 40 was pretty good. I don't think Rousseau has a bad get off, just that it isn't the thing that stands out to you on his tape. It is length, understanding of leverage and his hands. 1
Nester Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 Young kids who have not played in a year seem like a huge risk.
Chandler#81 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Boxcar said: I believe that Brandon Beane and the rest of the FO are better at football stuff than everyone who posts here combined You don’t know anything ! 🤣 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Why is that? Because he’s an idiot?😳🤷♂️ 8 hours ago, klos63 said: Except that every sack ESPN just showed of him were not coverage sacks at all. Did you research that yourself or just taking Mel Kiper's word for it? Took Kiper’s word, Duh.. Everyone knows @BillsMafi$ can’t read!
Rocket94 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 I like the pick! A great injection of youth and fresh eyes!
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Pretty average in that regard. We do have a clear sense of what they like at edge by now though. They love length and they value that more than that explosive first step, although as Brandon referenced Rousseau's first 10 split in the 40 was pretty good. I don't think Rousseau has a bad get off, just that it isn't the thing that stands out to you on his tape. It is length, understanding of leverage and his hands. Yes they certainly have a “type”. I feel like a lot of what I read about Rousseau pre-draft is that he’s really a DT/Edge. I expect they want to use him rushing inside as well Edited April 30, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1
JMF2006 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: No idea. Everyone I have loved has let me down so I have nothing to lose Shouldn't you be sleeping? Its already Saturday there 1
stevewin Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 There's been a number of comments related to playing weight - in the PC Beane was asked that specifically and he said - with the caveat they obviously would have to get him in and do an actual detailed assessment to make the final determination - that he saw him playing "in the 60's", which is where he is at now. Also some of that weight obviously may be re-distributed under NFL strength and conditioning
jimmy10 Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 We didn’t give up anything to get him, and it’s not like anyone there at 30 is a sure thing. Low, calculated risk with great potential upside. Plus he seems like a great kid. Let’s Geau Buffaleau! 2
BarleyNY Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 8 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Calais Campbell is a fan "Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Apr 20 #Miami DE Greg Rousseau is one of the Draft's most challenging evals. One scout called him a “skinny little guy” on tape, but he showed up at his Pro Day 25 pounds heavier. Some wondered about the athleticism, but he’s much bigger now. Plus, he was an opt-out. Lots of questions. Calais Campbell @CalaisCampbell Replying to @RapSheet I wonder what the scouts were saying when I was coming out? Not athletic enough? Not strong enough? I am not a scout and I know they have a tough job. But I hope they don’t overthink this one. @Greg_R5 can play football. He is a playmaker! Shows up in both the run and pass game" https://caneswarning.com/2021/04/28/why-is-miami-hurricanes-de-greg-rousseau-plummeting-on-nfl-draft-big-boards/ Notably Calais Campbell also played for Da U. He’s got the back of another U player. Nothing wrong with it, but don’t read too much into it. 1
nucci Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nester said: Young kids who have not played in a year seem like a huge risk. huge....I don't think it's a huge risk. 1
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevewin said: There's been a number of comments related to playing weight - in the PC Beane was asked that specifically and he said - with the caveat they obviously would have to get him in and do an actual detailed assessment to make the final determination - that he saw him playing "in the 60's", which is where he is at now. Also some of that weight obviously may be re-distributed under NFL strength and conditioning Exactly it is more than the pure number. It is making sure all that extra weight is functional. I don't think it is a hard thing to fix.
nucci Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 8 hours ago, 5ths the charm said: We will see time will tell.......you never know....it is what it is....
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the poor pro day was mostly around the vertical and bench and 3 cone but someone said he slipped in the 3 cone and no way is he going to bench a lot with those crazy long arms. His speed was very impressive for his size. He put up 22 reps on the benchHe put up 22 reps on the bench
BarleyNY Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Pretty average in that regard. We do have a clear sense of what they like at edge by now though. They love length and they value that more than that explosive first step, although as Brandon referenced Rousseau's first 10 split in the 40 was pretty good. I don't think Rousseau has a bad get off, just that it isn't the thing that stands out to you on his tape. It is length, understanding of leverage and his hands. Not a huge fan of the pick, but his length is really impressive. If he is successful in the NFL that’s going to be a huge factor. Not only is it useful keeping blockers off of him, it makes his tackle radius huge. I can see a role for him here if his head is on right. I was just hoping for better at 30. I’m really trying to warm up to it. Wait and see I guess.
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 57 minutes ago, mjt328 said: In terms of Rousseau himself, he's very similar to Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds I don't think Edmunds is the right comparison. Edmunds was a pure athletic freak with no instincts. That lack of instincts has held him back so far in his career. Rousseau is the opposite. He isn't the most athletic edge rusher but he has natural instincts and a nose for the ball. I think in his first season, at the very least he will be great at setting the edge for us and helping our run defense. By year 2 ideally he'll have developed some pass rush moves and he'll start to reach his ceiling. If he ever becomes consistent at getting into the back field, look out. Because once he's there he has a knack for finding the QB and taking him to the ground. 1 1
Sundancer Posted April 30, 2021 Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Not a huge fan of the pick, but his length is really impressive. If he is successful in the NFL that’s going to be a huge factor. Not only is it useful keeping blockers off of him, it makes his tackle radius huge. I can see a role for him here if his head is on right. I was just hoping for better at 30. I’m really trying to warm up to it. Wait and see I guess. His highlight reel shows him keeping lineman at bay and leaving them to tackle RBs. This is something we desperately need. The QB pressures are a bonus. 15.5 sacks at The U...if he had that last year, he's gone before pick 10. Only thing that got him to 30 was taking a year off to skip Covid play. Someone said he's a "one year wonder." Sure, but that's a hell of a one year and at Miami no less. He's no Zach Wilson. He's not a Day One starter but I'd be coaching him up to be a big time year 2 contributor and a solid situational contributor in year 1. Edited April 30, 2021 by Sundancer
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