Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Now, all these Dr's, lawyers, paramedics as you said are doing this in private but in public are acting like a normal person should. So they really have no effect on a minority person do they? Keep your head in the sand
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Melon said: Keep your head in the sand Hang on. Now you're changing the narrative. I know the game you're trying to play. It's very predicable.
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: Hang on. Now you're changing the narrative. The narrative is racism is systemic and it's not hidden in the basement as you claim Great example of American racism in the other thread as well
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Melon said: The narrative is racism is systemic and it's not hidden in the basement as you claim Great example of American racism in the other thread as well hang on a second. you are the one who made the claim about the uncle in the basement or however you phrased it. the underbelly or however you said it. come on man keep up. Edited April 29, 2021 by aristocrat
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, aristocrat said: So publily they're supporting policy that helps minorites but at home they're racist. So in the end minorities are treated equally but some ass is sitting at home pouting about it but doesn't actually hurt minorities? That's quite an argument. Not exactly sure what to do with that. It's like a fantasy land for someone who is desperate for racism to exist. That's part of the problem. People seem to want it to exist more than it actually exists. 3 hours ago, Melon said: This is an oversimplification. Every racist is not sitting at home pouting about it. Racists have been actively involved in anti-American and anti-black groups such as the KKK, Proud Boys, etc. They signed bills supporting equal rights, then put on their hoods and lynched at night. How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? I'll ask again - How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them?
B-Man Posted April 29, 2021 Author Posted April 29, 2021 Joe Biden Proved He Doesn't Understand the Purpose of the 2nd Amendment Joe Biden’s long-awaited first address to Congress was full of absurdities and was outright cringeworthy at times, but perhaps the most ridiculous (and I agree this is a subjective assessment) might just be his remarks on gun control. “Look, I don’t want to become confrontational,” Biden began, already lying. “But we need more Senate Republicans to join the overwhelming majority of Democrat colleagues and close the loopholes requiring a background check on purchases of guns… We need a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. And don’t tell me it can’t be done. We did it before, and it worked.” Wrong, it didn’t work. Biden has often cited the 1994 assault weapons ban, which banned assault weapons and high-capacity magazines for ten years, and claimed that it worked, but the facts show otherwise. According to a federally-funded study done for the Department of Justice, the assault weapons ban did little to curb gun violence. Assault weapons “were used in only a small fraction of gun crimes prior to the ban: about 2% according to most studies and no more than 8%,” the study explained. “Should [the assault weapons ban] be renewed, the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement,” the study said. Biden then doubled down on his anti-gun nonsense. “Talk to most responsible gun owners and hunters — they’ll tell you that there’s no possible justification for having 100 rounds in a weapon,” Biden said. “What’d ya think? Deer are wearing Kevlar vests?” Yes, he actually said that. Do you know anyone who has ever gone deer hunting with a hundred rounds in a weapon? Of course not. Joe Biden’s poorly written joke seems to be based on the premise that the 2nd Amendment is about protecting the right to hunt. Spoiler alert: it isn’t. The 2nd Amendment states, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Does that sound like it’s about hunting? Nope. The Founding Fathers saw the right of people to keep and bear arms as being necessary to preserving freedom. “What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms,” Thomas Jefferson wrote to James Madison back in 1787. There are countless quotes from the Founding Fathers on gun rights and the 2nd Amendment—and none are about hunting, they’re about the people having the ability to protect their own freedom from the State. One could argue the 2nd Amendment was written to protect us from the likes of Joe Biden. Biden’s joke about a deer wearing Kevlar was stupid, but nevertheless indicative of how he understands (or doesn’t understand) the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/04/29/joe-biden-proved-he-doesnt-understand-the-purpose-of-the-2nd-amendment-n1443492
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Melon said: I'll ask again - How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? lol again, one time i misspelled it. spelled it correctly 100 other times. let it go it doesn't mean i am racist misspelling one time. is this person in power actively passing bills to hurt minorities?
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: lol again, one time i misspelled it. spelled it correctly 100 other times. let it go it doesn't mean i am racist misspelling one time. is this person in power actively passing bills to hurt minorities? This person in power killed George Floyd
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Melon said: This person in power killed George Floyd hang on. you keep bouncing around from narrative to narrative. we were talking about the people who only did it in their basements. your words. in the words of the DA btw the Floyd killing was not a hate crime. not my words btw to be very clear as i know your next comment would be to call me a racist.
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: we were talking about the people who only did it in their basements. Are we? Or is that what you constantly refer back to because you won't answer the question - How can minorities be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them?
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Melon said: Are we? Or is that what you constantly refer back to because you won't answer the question - How can minorities be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? See you keep changing subjects here. You called it the underbelly of society or something these people that act racist in their basement but apparently normal during the day. Yes, of course if people in power act racist in public towards minorities and actively discriminate against them they are not treated equally. But you just used an example of Chauvin which was not considered a racist incident according to the DA. Again, not my words. So you used an example that was not racist.
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: See you keep changing subjects here. You called it the underbelly of society or something these people that act racist in their basement but apparently normal during the day. Where did I say this? Re-read the quote below. I'll bold, italicize, and underline the part that continues to go over your head. 3 hours ago, Melon said: Some of those same folks are cops, doctors, paramedics, etc. To think they automatically stop their implicit bias on the job is laughable. That's the dark underbelly of racism that makes this country racist.
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Melon said: Where did I say this? Re-read the quote below. I'll bold, italicize, and underline the part that continues to go over your head. Well if they did do it at their jobs it is pretty easy to spot and in this day and age of social media they ruin their careers pretty quickly with that stuff. So again your example is flawed. You make all these claims and have zero proof of it. You make up these hypothetical situations and proclaim them as indisputable fact when they are not. Just to be clear. Racism does exist. I am 100 percent against it. It is also ok that there continue to be less racist people in this country as time goes on. You probably need to hear that it's a great thing that it's happening and it is in fact happening. You can use history books as proof.
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You make all these claims and have zero proof of it. 245 years of proof that has built up to the systemic racism we see today Slavery Jim Crow Internment KKK "Crack Epidemic" 4Chan/8Chan/Parler Rodney King Ahmed Arbery Dante Wright Rayshard Brooks Breonna Taylor Could go on for awhile. Go Bills - enjoy your racism free life Edited April 29, 2021 by Melon
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melon said: 245 years of proof that has built up to the systemic racism we see today Slavery Jim Crow Internment KKK "Crack Epidemic" 4Chan/8Chan/Parler Rodney King again, you are changing narratives. desperately grasping at straws. that was not what we were talking about. i have debunked you at every point and you continue to just try and change narrative. we didnt invent slavery but we fought to end it. and end it we did. we ended jim crow. we've admitted interning the Japanese was wrong. kkk is barely even a thing anymore. i think at last count something like 29 total groups in the country and membership is in the thousands maybe but i cant really find info on membership. crack epidemic lead to your guy Biden passing some ***** laws and I am sad he was allowed to continue to have power in this country but we have a lot of people actively fighting him thank goodness. i dont know much about 4chan and others so cant really make an educated comment on it. rodney king, awful. Again, read my previous post again about things continuing to get better. I'll add. The entire world was a racist place when America began as the great experiment. The idea off all people being equal was the goal. It is impossible to have happened overnight but I wish it could have. You need to understand that the idea is to always work towards perfection but that it can't happen overnight. Wish it could but that's not reality. So your idea that we are a racist country is not factually correct.
B-Man Posted April 29, 2021 Author Posted April 29, 2021 WHAT TIM SCOTT SAID: "America is not a racist country" WHAT LIBS HEARD: "Racism doesn't exist in America" They're not the same thing. All you have to do is think about it for two seconds, which is clearly too much work. Don't blame Tim Scott for being smarter than you. 1 1
Chef Jim Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Melon said: A systemic amount Define systemic. Once you do that we can proceed. 3 hours ago, Melon said: Impossible to prove but it's systemic I see. So you call something systemic when you have no way to prove it is other that it feels systemic. You're not getting out that easily. 18 minutes ago, B-Man said: WHAT TIM SCOTT SAID: "America is not a racist country" WHAT LIBS HEARD: "Racism doesn't exist in America" They're not the same thing. All you have to do is think about it for two seconds, which is clearly too much work. Don't blame Tim Scott a tree for being smarter than you. FIFY
BillStime Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Melon said: 245 years of proof that has built up to the systemic racism we see today Outstanding summary https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1387807852279078913.html Edited April 29, 2021 by BillStime
Chef Jim Posted April 29, 2021 Posted April 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Outstanding summary https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1387807852279078913.html To me these disparities are socioeconomic not racial. Now once we can agree upon that we can have a discussion why POC more often find themselves in lower socioeconomic patterns that non-POC's. And if you say's it because of racism I'm comin over and kickin ya straight in the nuts. 1
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