DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, gotme365 said: Drafting a RB will definitely help with getting pressure on Mahomes and beating the improved Chiefs o-line 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: Meanwhile we scored 17 and 24 against the chiefs defense..... I’m not saying that drafting a RB is the key to us beating them, but to insinuate that we have to draft defense in order to beat the chiefs is a bad take yo. A team also has to score a lot of points to beat the chiefs. 17 and 24 isn’t a lot of points. Stopping the chiefs O isn’t the key to beating them. Scoring more points than them is. Exactly, @NewEra The Bills were up 9-7 in the 2nd quarter against KC, and desperately needed to sustain the drive and get some points (especially a TD). Instead Singletary dropped an easy pass and killed the drive. We punt to KC who goes right down the field for a TD, takes the lead, and never looks back. Sustaining drives and keeping Mahomes off the field is the best way to defend KC. 5 1
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Skeptical. Does anyone actually have links to his previous mock drafts? I can only find a link to 2020, where the Bills didn't have a 1st Round Pick. Not sure this guy is as accurate as he's touting himself. In 2019, I did about 100 simulation mock drafts in the weeks leading up the draft. (Love those things by the way...) I took Ed Oliver almost every time, and I had zero inside information, outside of being a close fan of the team. In 2018, everyone on the planet knew the Bills were going to pick a QB. And most had it narrowed down to Josh Rosen or Josh Allen by this point. I'm sure he didn't call us trading up for Tremaine Edmunds later in the draft. In 2017, many fans were expecting and hoping for a trade down. I would like to see if he called it being with the Chiefs, or us picking Tre White. Unlikely. Last year he had our top pick going to the pats at 23 1
Ray Finkel Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Special K said: Maybe he can break the curse of the Clemson first round picks for the Bills. Spiller, Watkins = bad mojo!! Perry Tuttle 1
SCBills Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I hate this. Pats get Fields, and get the 3rd best RB. Williams is still available and is a better fit than Etienne. Meh.. As long as nobody in our division walked away with Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson this offseason, I would consider it a win.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, gotme365 said: I should have also stated I’d be ok with a CB in the 1st. It just seems as all of the SuperBowl winning teams have RB’s that weren’t drafted high or they found on the waiver wire. The Bucs relied heavily on Fournette through the playoffs and he want #3 overall. KC has a 1st rd back on their team too.
SCBills Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Exactly, @NewEra The Bills were up 9-7 in the 2nd quarter against KC, and desperately needed to sustain the drive and get some points (especially a TD). Instead Singletary dropped an easy pass and killed the drive. We punt to KC who goes right down the field for a TD, takes the lead, and never looks back. Sustaining drives and keeping Mahomes off the field is the best way to defend KC. It's hard, and probably unfair, to say that play cost us the game, but it just felt like that was the moment to put KC on their heels and that drop was so deflating.... we as fans felt it... and if we're being honest, I think the team felt it too. 3
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Much like the Roulette Results board in a casino, past results don't mean much for predicting the current pick. It was far easier to hit on our pick when we were consistently picking in or near the Top 10. I feel like even I accurately predicted our picks, going back to at least Gilmore. And I dont know anything. Now, if he nails this pick, then THAT is something to brag about, and I'll give him a lot of credit going into next year's mocks. Shaq did alright, considering. Jerry Butler too. And Perry Tuttle is in the Winnipeg Blue Bombers team hall of fame.
Ya Digg? Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, gotme365 said: I should have also stated I’d be ok with a CB in the 1st. It just seems as all of the SuperBowl winning teams have RB’s that weren’t drafted high or they found on the waiver wire. I would be more on board with a CB if they feel the value is there....and I should say I'm not 100% for Etienne, but I do think Buffalo is in a great position of not needing to reach for a guy
RyanC883 Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SCBills said: Meh.. As long as nobody in our division walked away with Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson this offseason, I would consider it a win. good points. I still don’t want Fields on Pats. clearly Watson on pats would be much worse Edited April 28, 2021 by RyanC883
Cheektowaga Chad Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 If the bills go running back in the first, I'm going to believe that the bills front office motto when it comes to the draft is speak the truth, why lie. The bills tell the truth who they like majority will think its a smoke screen anyways
gotme365 Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The Bucs relied heavily on Fournette through the playoffs and he want #3 overall. KC has a 1st rd back on their team too. Fournette was drafted #3 overall by the Jags. The Bucs picked him up for scraps.
CNY315 Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NewEra said: He was a bust imo. Are you hoping for Etienne? since I started scouting this draft class, my thoughts on drafting Etienne has been a roller coaster. At first, I thought he would be a great pick and wanted him regardless of my thoughts on 1st rd rbs. I thought picking 30th was like a 2nd rd pick and his skill set is perfect for our needs. Then I fell in love with Kenneth Gainwell and would rather take him in rd 2-3 and use our 1st on a CB/DE/WR. Drafting a Rb in rd 1 was again, a no no. now, after watching more and more of his tape, I’m starting to feel like he’d be the perfect compliment to our offense and could be just what the Dr ordered. Take it to the house.....that’s what he does. That’s what we need. He’s not my first choice.....but I’d be very excited if he is our pick. As fans, that’s all we can ask for. To be excited. Etienne is that I, like a lot of Bills fans, have been hoping for a DE/CB so initially I wouldn't be as excited. I'd probably get more pumped the more it set in. As an SU fan I held my breath pretty much every time he touched the ball. It would be dope to have that kind of playmaker on the team Edited April 28, 2021 by CNY315 1
JimmyNoodles Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) CB's may be 3 rounds deep in this draft and the difference between geting one in the 1st for us at 30 or later in the draft may not be that pronounced. Edge is the obvious draft need but none are 1st round talents IMO. So, you roll the dice later for that too. I could see Etienne being the pick given this thinking. Don't know who will fall, but if there are only 10-15 1st round grades (which I agree with), then maybe no 1st round talent falls at all, making that a non-option. Could be RB first and then edge and then CB. Edited April 28, 2021 by JimmyNoodles 1
ProcessAccepted Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Disagree. He should be out in the flat catching the hot route pass and turning it up field for 15 yards. If we keep him in to block at all, THEN it is a wasted pick. Thurman was able to do both well.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Thurman was able to do both well. Then we should draft Thurman. 1
Rochesterfan Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: Benjamin Allbright only posts one mock draft each year. He posts it the day before the draft. **Edit: He has known which direction the Bills were leaning several years running (not last year, as they had no 1st round pick). He sometimes knows the specific player they like, but usually at least knows the position they most want to pick in round 1. From what I have experienced in the past few years, he seems to have legitimate league sources. This year, he said over a month ago that they were looking running back and has stuck to his guns ever since. Lo and behold, in his mock, he has them taking Etienne even with Newsome and Barmore still on the board. I’m posting this only because Allbright seems to have legit league sources, particularly one with the Bills, and he’s way more accurate/trustworthy than most. Take from it what you will. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-1-round-albright/ I don’t really trust Allbright to know much of anything going on. He claims to have been right about the last several Bills drafts, but then had to clarify it was position because our 1st pick last year he mocked to NE about 3/4 of a round earlier. He also was the guy that said the Brown trade was done before that was done and when it was still preliminary. I think he has a “source” and the Bills only feed him the crap they want out. He was on the Josh Allen pick, but so were a bunch of other guys as draft day approached because it became more widely known Mayfield was going to Cleveland, and therefore Darnold to the JETS and that left the Bills needing a QB and many “insiders” had Allen over Rosen - while fans had Rosen over Allen. If the board played out the way he has it - I see no way Beane passes on Newsome - none - that is the most slam dunk pick he could have. You want CB and speed and he has it in spades - as opposed to a fast, but not elite speed RB. I don’t think it is close. 1 1
Jay_Fixit Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, gotme365 said: Drafting a RB will definitely help with getting pressure on Mahomes and beating the improved Chiefs o-line If he’s BPA then it doesn’t matter. Horrible idea to reach for need.
RobbRiddick Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 I'd prefer edge or CB but if we get an explosive RB I'll definitely be excited to see how he could help give the offense a new dimension, so it will definitely add some buzz to the rest of the off season for me. To be honest I don't care who they pick or what position they go for. A. I have faith in this regime to make a good move, and b. it's the 30th pick so it's not like we have the pressure of picking in the top ten
Logic Posted April 28, 2021 Author Posted April 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I don’t really trust Allbright to know much of anything going on. He claims to have been right about the last several Bills drafts, but then had to clarify it was position because our 1st pick last year he mocked to NE about 3/4 of a round earlier. He also was the guy that said the Brown trade was done before that was done and when it was still preliminary. I think he has a “source” and the Bills only feed him the crap they want out. He was on the Josh Allen pick, but so were a bunch of other guys as draft day approached because it became more widely known Mayfield was going to Cleveland, and therefore Darnold to the JETS and that left the Bills needing a QB and many “insiders” had Allen over Rosen - while fans had Rosen over Allen. First: I don't think he was. As I recall, Ian Rapaport was the guy who reported Brown to Bills, not Allbright. If you can show the report to which you're referring, I will stand corrected. Second: Allbright was on Allen to the Bills WELL before "when draft day approached". Like MONTHS before. Second, please link those "bunch of other guys" that were saying that, because other than basic mock draft guesswork, I don't really remember any national reporters of note stating emphatically that Allen was the guy, and certainly not as early in the process as Allbright was. And I think your recollection of the weeks leading up to the 2018 draft may be off, because even as late as draft day, some thought Allen was going 1st overall. It was not "widely known" that Mayfield was going to Cleveland until maybe the night before the draft. Again, everyone has the right to believe or not believe in Allbright is a reasonable source of intel and draft rumors. And I probably overstated the specificity of his previous predictions, and have since edited the thread title and OP to reflect that. I will simply say that of all the well known national media guys out there, Allbright seems more connected -- and seems to be correct more often -- than most. That doesn't mean he's unimpeachable or that he's Jimmy the Greek. But in my opinion, his intel is usually at least noteworthy and reasonably likely to be true.
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