HappyDays Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Beane says in his postseason presser that you can't solely blame the RBs for the rush game problems, but then proceeds to re-sign the entire o-line. Yeah, he knows the RBs were the problem. And I expect him to upgrade the position. 3 1 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, NewEra said: Awesome. Our guard depth is great! Too bad our starting guards stink 😂 I know you are joking, but this could be one of the battles of camp, what three guys start. I’m not betting against Feliciano at center, Morse is always good for a week(s) injured here or there. 1
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Better then WInters 37 minutes ago, NewEra said: Awesome. Our guard depth is great! Too bad our starting guards stink 😂 Im sorry at what point did the narrative change that Mongo "stinks" He is a above average OG in the NFL with position flex. Those players do not "stink" they just dont make the pro bowl 1 2
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Better then WInters Im sorry at what point did the narrative change that Mongo "stinks" He is a above average OG in the NFL with position flex. Those players do not "stink" they just dont make the pro bowl Average at best and paid that way accordingly...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Average at best and paid that way accordingly... My point is that "average" NFL players dont stink......not everyone on your team can be an all pro.....some of them just "do their job and can be upgraded at any time" *****....there was a time on this board when people actually liked Mongo......sometime before his injury last year that he had to play with perhaps? 1
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, John from Riverside said: My point is that "average" NFL players dont stink......not everyone on your team can be an all pro.....some of them just "do their job and can be upgraded at any time" *****....there was a time on this board when people actually liked Mongo......sometime before his injury last year that he had to play with perhaps? Ok fair enough... I don’t hate the guy but like I said , I would classify him as at best average... although agree that the position flexibility is a bonus.... I think the issue is that a lot of people think he can be upgraded ...
The Jokeman Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. And then gabe jackson. Mongo got less $ but he’s also the lesser player. He’s lucky he can play C imo With no guaranteed money after 2021, Mongo could be cut in 2022 if draft drone better this week.
Utah John Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Beane did the same thing a couple of years ago. He loaded up on good O line players, then winnowed down by trading some of them during training camp to teams desperate for help at the position. He used a lot of that draft capital quite well. Unfortunately one of the guys he traded away was Wyatt Teller, who's become an all-pro with the Browns. It would sure be nice to have him back. I think the odds are that Cody Ford gets traded away this summer. He just isn't dominating the way he was expected to.
First Round Bust Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 PFF rating has him ranked 36 out 80 for Gs....Browns have # 1 C (Trotter) and former Bill...# 2 G (Teller) who is #1 run blocker...safe to say I wouldnt mind an IOL taken with the second rounder this year...7M in savings to cut Morse to pay Josh and possibly upgrade the position with run blocking improvement instead of wasting on a RB with pick 1. 1
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, FFadpecr said: 3-way competition for Starting LG: Ford vs Boettger vs Lamp Let the best man win. This is why the Bills should not waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on an Offensive Lineman. It would not shock me to see Lamp take one of these OG spots......he is a starting caliber talent player. In my opinion unless a obvious upgrade presents itself in the draft we might not even take a OG. This team needs to upgrade its secondary and pass rush 1 2
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, FFadpecr said: No, other way around. Drafting OL early in this draft is a waste. If an OL is BPA when they pick then take him.. its what good teams do
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: My point is that "average" NFL players dont stink......not everyone on your team can be an all pro.....some of them just "do their job and can be upgraded at any time" *****....there was a time on this board when people actually liked Mongo......sometime before his injury last year that he had to play with perhaps? Exactly. Maybe, just maybe Mongo plays a lot better with the use of his other arm.
DJB Posted April 27, 2021 Author Posted April 27, 2021 Today was my proudest moment on TBD. I posted this thread before @YoloinOhio
billsfan89 Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 With Ike officially back in the fold this team runs 7 deep with starting caliber or high end backup caliber players. Dawkins-Ford/Ike-Mitch-Mongo-D.Williams and Bates are a pretty good 7 at the O-line, would love to see some more depth/developmental players brought in via the draft particularly at tackle but love to see Ike back in the fold for at least one more season.
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, billsfan89 said: With Ike officially back in the fold this team runs 7 deep with starting caliber or high end backup caliber players. Dawkins-Ford/Ike-Mitch-Mongo-D.Williams and Bates are a pretty good 7 at the O-line, would love to see some more depth/developmental players brought in via the draft particularly at tackle but love to see Ike back in the fold for at least one more season. The Swing tackle ( Bates?) concerns me and I wouldnt mind them drafting someone to compete here... Also, I like Humphrey as a long term C option and to allow them to move on from Morse after this year...
NewEra Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Better then WInters Im sorry at what point did the narrative change that Mongo "stinks" He is a above average OG in the NFL with position flex. Those players do not "stink" they just dont make the pro bowl It’s half joke John. They kind of stink. Kind of don’t stink. But do kind of stink. Neither are good and Jon is overpaid imo. I wouldn’t call him above average. I think he’s average at best to below average when he’s not his best. until I can see our run game open some holes and block the KC pash rush, they’ll be meh to me. The OL did a great job pass blocking last year. Feliciano didn’t. Boettger was meh. Allen was god and makes them look better than they are at times. I wouldn’t consider either of our guards to be quality starters. 1
NewEra Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: With no guaranteed money after 2021, Mongo could be cut in 2022 if draft drone better this week. Yeah, that’s the one plus about his contract imo
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: 8 deep You forgot Forrest Lamp If Lamp stays healthy he has the highest ceiling right there with Ford when it comes to the battle between Ford, Feliciano, Lamp and Ike. This is a make or break year for Ford. Ike is a solid backup and gets the most out of what he has to work with. 1
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