Miami Trades Ereck Flowers - OL Line @ #6 Now?

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, H2o said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/dolphins-to-move-robert-hunt-from-tackle-to-guard-may-draft-a-tackle-in-first-round/

 

Maybe Miami is truly looking @ OT with #6?

Honestly, if they are....good for them! Smart team building.

Tua is a lefty, so having a high quality RT is just as important, if not more so, than having a high quality LT. I've also read that Sewell has been training at RT this offseason, just in case the team that drafts him plans to start him there.

[GunnerBill]

34 minutes ago, H2o said:

Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. 

 

I don't think Flowers has ever been a decent NFL guard, he is a train wreck at guard or tackle. How he keeps getting signed is a mystery to me. It was a dumb move the moment Miami made it last year. 

 

Agree with others though it does not affect #6. I mean if Sewell is there they should take him, but I say that as an Austin Jackson sceptic and they drafted him in the 1st so they won't do it. 

 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, dneveu said:

 

Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there.

 

Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter.

yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs

[Arm of Harm]

20 years from now, there will be a lineman named Ereek Flowers, he will be drafted first overall, and will be one of the biggest busts in NFL history.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

haha-- yeah, Williams was probably much worse. What's crazy about Flowers is here I am 20 years later and I am still so delusional that I am wondering whether there was a chance he could have worked out. He was an athletic guy and a lot of us had high hopes for him--I never understood what happened with him. 

He was over hyped, Darren Howard was the DE I wanted in that draft and when we took Flowers I was livid. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 minutes ago, ganesh said:

yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs

 

22nd in yards offensively, and 20th in yards allowed defensively.  Turnovers are big, but good teams tend to turn it over less, and they tend to fluctuate from year to year.

[RichRiderBills]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 

And POS Poz....lets not forget that disaster......

 

What are you talking about? Poz was a decent player. Decent guy. Not a bust at all. Never lived up to his hype, but should not mentioned in the same breath. He was a pro bowler w Jax one year, and could have been a Pro bowler for us if he'd been healthier.

 

Flowers was yet another bad signing by this supposed "rising" miami team. Just another guy they are going to have to replace w a rookie or new face. 

 

They gave him 10 million per year!

 

Miami's line next year looking like a dumpster fire. Last year's rookies underwhelmed, now will be several new faces.

Edited April 27, 2021 by RichRiderBills

[Arm of Harm]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 

And POS Poz....lets not forget that disaster......

 

Posluszny had an 11 year career, and was a starter for the vast majority of that. For his career he has 1085 total tackles, and 753 solo.

 

He went first-contract-and-out with the Bills and went to the Jaguars. The Bills were switching to a 3-4 defense, and he believed he was a better fit in a 4-3.

 

Overall the guy had a solid career. However, the switch to the 3-4 meant the Jaguars derived more benefit from that career than did the Bills. Had he stayed in Buffalo he would have abundantly justified the 2nd round pick used to take him.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Arm of Harm

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

And they appear to have whiffed on their three first round picks last year...I know it’s early, but none of the three looks good to this point...

The tackle looks like he might be ok. Not first round pick worthy, but decent.

 

Tua and the corner are not looking great right now

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs

And they beat one team with a winning record (rams) when they had a whopping 145 yards of offense 

 

In fact, they remind me of this team

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Buffalo_Bills_season

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Miami_Dolphins_season

[billsfan89]

A fairly marginal trade, Flowers is returning to the only team he has success with and Miami cuts their losses. I don’t see this as having that drastic of an impact on Miami’s draft plans.

[Putin]

3 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

Well Flowers sucked anyway, so i don't think him being there should have prevented them from going oline there.

 

Their offensive line will hold them back if its not addressed - they cant run the ball, and if they don't protect their QB it won't really matter.

What QB ??

[DCbillsfan]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. 

Not to mention the dead cap money regarding those players.  Per Spotrac, Van Noy $4.1M, Shaq $2.6M, and Flowers $2M.

Edited April 27, 2021 by DCbillsfan

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

Flowers turned into a pretty decent G when playing for Washington. Good enough that Miami gave him 3 years and $30 million. How dumb does their FO look right now though? Van Noy? Signed, kept for a year, let go. Shaq Lawson? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Ereck Flowers? Signed, kept for a year, traded. Last offseason for them looks like a complete debacle. 

Glass houses...

Spain

Jefferson

Addison and Butler forced to take paycuts or get cut

 

And that isn't even including the guy that quit at halftime

 

[somnus00]

4 hours ago, H2o said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/27/miami-trades-ereck-flowers-to-washington/

 Maybe they are going OL @ #6? I'd personally be happy if they passed on any receiving talent like Pitts, Chase, Waddle, or Smith. 

 

I don't want them drafting Sewell. The guy looks amazing and he's only 20 years old. I'm hoping they pull another Dion Jordan and take Jason Oweh at 6.

Edited April 27, 2021 by somnus00

[H2o]

1 minute ago, somnus00 said:

 

I don't want them drafting Sewell. The guy looks amazing and he's only 20 years old. I'm hoping they pull another Ted Ginn Jr and take Jason Oweh at 6.

Another Dion Jordan 

[somnus00]

Just now, H2o said:

Another Dion Jordan 

You beat me to it. I just edited my post to Dion Jordan.

[YoloinOhio]

That Miami FA class last year, whew. 

 

 

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

yet they won 10 games and a win away from the playoffs

Too bad Fitzy can’t save them this year 

Who is their OC now?  Can’t keep up with the revolving door

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

That Miami FA class last year, whew. 

 

 

Too bad Fitzy can’t save them this year 

Who is their OC now?  Can’t keep up with the revolving door

They got 2 OC's...

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, dneveu said:

They got 2 OC's...

Who are they, I should know but ya know