HOUSE Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 The No. 1 overall pick in 2018, Mayfield's fifth-year option is worth $18.86 million in 2022. After making one Pro Bowl, Ward will make $13.294 million on the fifth year. As for what comes next, in terms of possible long-term extensions, Browns general manager Andrew Berry avoided that question in his Friday news conference. https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-pick-up-fifth-year-options-on-qb-baker-mayfield-cb-denzel-ward 1 1
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 Will be the first QB to start week 1, 3 years in a row, since the Browns returned to the NFL. 1 1 1
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 Next Monday (5/3) is the deadline for triggering the 5th year option. Will be interesting to see if Beane picks up Josh's. I think we all expected them to use the 5th year AND an extension, when working on Josh's new deal. You'd expect to hear about it before the draft starts at least.
Motorin' Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Next Monday (5/3) is the deadline for triggering the 5th year option. Will be interesting to see if Beane picks up Josh's. I think we all expected them to use the 5th year AND an extension, when working on Josh's new deal. You'd expect to hear about it before the draft starts at least. If there's any internal question about Edmund's 5th year, the'll probably wait until Monday after the draft to extend Josh to not make things awkward with Tre Maine. If they draft a MLB replacement, then they only pickup Josh's/ If they don't, then they do both. 1 1
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question. Beane made it sound like an open question in his pre-draft presser 10 minutes ago, Motorin' said: If there's any internal question about Edmund's 5th year, the'll probably wait until Monday after the draft to extend Josh to not make things awkward with Tre Maine. If they draft a MLB replacement, then they only pickup Josh's/ If they don't, then they do both. This could just be me, but if you've got a 3 year starter who has been to 2 pro-bowls and you're waiting to see who you draft at #30 before you decide to extend him, you got a problem. 1
Warcodered Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Next Monday (5/3) is the deadline for triggering the 5th year option. Will be interesting to see if Beane picks up Josh's. I think we all expected them to use the 5th year AND an extension, when working on Josh's new deal. You'd expect to hear about it before the draft starts at least. Pretty sure Beane has been indicating that he wants to deal with the draft before figuring out extending Josh. 1
Motorin' Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question. I'm surprised they haven't already. And I'm not saying that they are looking to replace him. But it is always a possibility that they see a prospect in the draft who might be an upgrade or a wash, which would give them significant cap space to bring in one big time free agent either this year or next. 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Beane made it sound like an open question in his pre-draft presser This could just be me, but if you've got a 3 year starter who has been to 2 pro-bowls and you're waiting to see who you draft at #30 before you decide to extend him, you got a problem. The problem, if there is one, is the unexpected shrinking cap.
Buffalo03 Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Will be the first QB to start week 1, 3 years in a row, since the Browns returned to the NFL. I actually had to look this up because I know Tim Couch started their opening games in 2000 and 2001 and I was certain that Couch started their first game back in the NFL in 1999 but it wasnt, It was Ty Detmer. I got curious and started looking at all their opening day starters going back to 1999 and there are 17 QBs that started an opening day game for them going back to 1999. I completely forgot that RGIII played for them back in 2016. That's insane 2
4merper4mer Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: If there's any internal question about Edmund's 5th year, the'll probably wait until Monday after the draft to extend Josh to not make things awkward with Tre Maine. If they draft a MLB replacement, then they only pickup Josh's/ If they don't, then they do both. Mayfield thread to Edmunds bash. Voila. 4
JaCrispy Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tuel Time said: 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question. Not so sure...if it were the expected cap, probably...But I don’t know that it’s a given for Tremaine...if we do, it will be difficult to sign FA’s next year...so, we shall see... Edited April 24, 2021 by JaCrispy
RiotAct Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: I actually had to look this up because I know Tim Couch started their opening games in 2000 and 2001 and I was certain that Couch started their first game back in the NFL in 1999 but it wasnt, It was Ty Detmer. I got curious and started looking at all their opening day starters going back to 1999 and there are 17 QBs that started an opening day game for them going back to 1999. I completely forgot that RGIII played for them back in 2016. That's insane I think he was their QB in that late-season game at The Ralph in 2016 where it was like 9 degrees out.
Motorin' Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Mayfield thread to Edmunds bash. Voila. It's bashing Edmunds to say the Bills could find someone as good in the draft? Edited April 24, 2021 by Motorin'
DCofNC Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Tuel Time said: 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question. (Madden voice) Now here’s a guy who doesn’t understand NFL contracts. 1
DrPJax Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Next Monday (5/3) is the deadline for triggering the 5th year option. Will be interesting to see if Beane picks up Josh's. I think we all expected them to use the 5th year AND an extension, when working on Josh's new deal. You'd expect to hear about it before the draft starts at least. I believe Beane just said they will address the Allen situation AFTER the draft, so not sure how that fits in with 5 th year option. Given the dates involved. 1
billsherd Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, DCofNC said: (Madden voice) Now here’s a guy who doesn’t understand NFL contracts. This guy right here..... knows NFL contracts.
Buffalo03 Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, RiotAct said: I think he was their QB in that late-season game at The Ralph in 2016 where it was like 9 degrees out. Yeah, you're right. That game completely slipped my mind lol
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 19 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Will be the first QB to start week 1, 3 years in a row, since the Browns returned to the NFL. Knock on wood.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Tuel Time said: 2x Pro Bowler in 3 years, I'm guessing they pick up Edmunds 5th year without question. Funny enough, if both of those Pro Bowls count, then that is the exact reason to NOT pick up the 5th year option right now. Posted in another thread is a tweet with the guidelines that if a player makes 1 Pro Bowl the 5th year option equals the Transition Tag amount. If they made 2 Pro Bowls, the 5th year option equals the Franchise Tag amount. If that is the case, and both Pro Bowls count, then we save nothing by optioning him now. We can wait until after this season and Franchise tag him for the same amount. But at a Franchise cost of $14.7M, I'm not sure he'll be worth it either way. Even if it is the Transition tag amount, which is around $12M, not sure it's worth it. Maybe if he had his original option amount of $9M. Maybe. With the Pro Bowls and increased value, I think they ride it out and see what happens. 12 hours ago, DrPJax said: I believe Beane just said they will address the Allen situation AFTER the draft, so not sure how that fits in with 5 th year option. Given the dates involved. Well, technically Monday is after the draft. If Beane can pull the trigger by 4pm! That doesnt leave him a lot of room to work, but I assume Beane knows exactly what he wants to do and when. Should be interesting. 1
Fan in Chicago Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This could just be me, but if you've got a 3 year starter who has been to 2 pro-bowls and you're waiting to see who you draft at #30 before you decide to extend him, you got a problem. I think it is a problem. My guess is Beane wont pick up the option and see where the proverbial chips. Lots to consider such as who is drafted, how Edmunds performs in his prove it/no excuses season, what the FA crop for next year looks like etc. 15 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Mayfield thread to Edmunds bash. Voila. I am guilty as well. As to the OP, Browns made the right choice w.r.t. Mayfield.
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