YoloinOhio Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) For the nerds! Edited April 16, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 10
RochesterLifer Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 It's going to take me a while to figure out what all these pretty pictures mean, but thank you! 3 1
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. 5 1
Paul Costa Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Agree 💯. Didn’t know that nickel stat interesting and explains a little bit of why our run D was very pedestrian. 1
Governor Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 I would still go ahead and draft WR if it’s BPA. I doubt that happens. We’re moving up for someone. Could it be Barmore? 1
BuffaloBill Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 11:17 AM, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. Expand I would say we were bad in both
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 10:48 AM, YoloinOhio said: For the nerds! Expand Thanks for scraping the twitterverse yolo!
DJB Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Where's all them fools that keep telling me we aren't in nickle that often and its not a need?
Reed83HOF Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 12:22 PM, DJB said: Where's all them fools that keep telling me we aren't in nickle that often and its not a need? Expand Can never have enough DBs or WRs in this league 3 1
TroutDog Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 12:37 PM, Reed83HOF said: Can never have enough DBs or WRs in this league Expand Agreed. I’m interested to see what the late round kid from last year can do (WR). If he can be a red zone threat it would be fantastic. That allows for DE or CB towards the top of the draft. Personally, I’m less worried about RB. 3
Thurman#1 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) On 4/16/2021 at 11:17 AM, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. Expand Very true. Equally true that we got quite a bit better running the ball as the season went along. First six games we ran for 92 YPG. And 3.81 YPC. Last ten games 117 YPG. And 4.40 YPA That is major improvement. Defending the run: First six games we allowed 131 YPG. And 4.58 YPC. Last ten games we allowed 112.6 YPG. And 4.65 YPC. That's improvement on a per game basis. The YPC got worse, though the difference is probably statistically insignificant. Being in nickel a lot undoubtedly affects that. Getting Lotulelei back should also really help with run defense, but certainly they can't look at that and say, "Well, Star's coming back, so we don't need to do anything else." That needs attention, and they're giving it attention. Edited April 16, 2021 by Thurman#1 5
BuffaloBillies Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Those charts/graphs look like that game you play at the carnival where you have to squirt water into the hole. 3
Don Otreply Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 11:17 AM, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. Expand True, but the more this is considered, the more it is run play scheming that is the actual culprit on offense, imo SM/LF get a bit stuck in their ways and lack creativity concerning the D side of this conundrum. 1
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 1:37 PM, Don Otreply said: True, but the more this is considered, the more it is run play scheming that is the actual culprit on offense, imo SM/LF get a bit stuck in their ways and lack creativity concerning the D side of this conundrum. Expand I think on defense it’s mostly a case of size especially in the back 7. We have 5 DB’s on the field 91% of the time and those 5 DB’s are all 200 lbs or less. Milano is a good LB but he’s on the smaller side as well. Edmunds has the size but his calling card is coverage. It would be great if we could get a bigger guy on the field in place of one of the 5 smaller DB’s and not sacrifice coverage.
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 12:55 PM, Thurman#1 said: Very true. Equally true that we got quite a bit better running the ball as the season went along. First six games we ran for 92 YPG. And 3.81 YPC. Last ten games 117 YPG. And 4.40 YPA That is major improvement. Defending the run: First six games we allowed 131 YPG. And 4.58 YPC. Last ten games we allowed 112.6 YPG. And 4.65 YPC. That's improvement on a per game basis. The YPC got worse, though the difference is probably statistically insignificant. Being in nickel a lot undoubtedly affects that. Getting Lotulelei back should also really help with run defense, but certainly they can't look at that and say, "Well, Star's coming back, so we don't need to do anything else." That needs attention, and they're giving it attention. Expand Those defensive stats show YPC going up slightly (probably unchanged from a statistically meaningful standpoint). YPG went down but that’s solely because teams weren’t running the ball as much - 4 or 5 fewer times per game. Looking at the scores of our games it’s pretty obvious why. 4-2 record over the first six games with only one one two score win. 9-1 over the last 10 games with a bunch of blowout wins. Teams had to pass more in those games. That’s all it was. 2
Don Otreply Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 1:50 PM, BuffaloRebound said: I think on defense it’s mostly a case of size especially in the back 7. We have 5 DB’s on the field 91% of the time and those 5 DB’s are all 200 lbs or less. Milano is a good LB but he’s on the smaller side as well. Edmunds has the size but his calling card is coverage. It would be great if we could get a bigger guy on the field in place of one of the 5 smaller DB’s and not sacrifice coverage. Expand Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help.
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 2:08 PM, Don Otreply said: Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help. Expand Doesn’t have to be an LB. Replacing 5’11”/190 lb’s with 6’1”/210lb’s can make a difference too. JOK would be ideal, but there’s plenty of DB’s in this draft who’d probably get significant playing time immediately. 1
Bookie Man Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 I thought it said Warren Sapp. I was like, this man has come a long way! 😆 5 1 1
colin Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 we need an improvement in our run game, duh, and a BIG improvement stopping big runs. given we were the best in the nfl at stopping big passes, a pass rush would help obv, but we need some players in the gut more than anything. 1t and maybe a a DE who can bang (that guy we got w the african name could be that, i hope so anyhow). beyond that some combo of rb/te/og might get our run game going a little bit. after having rewatched the kc game (groan) one more weapon who was actually healthy on O (TE or RB woulda been ideal) and if we stop 2 of those break away runs, we absolutely have a shot in the game. when i saw it live it felt like we were dead after 4 drives, but in reality, a couple small differences woulda put us over the top.
Solomon Grundy Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 2:08 PM, Don Otreply said: Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help. Expand Zaven Collins cures all ailments here 1 1 1
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