FireChans Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Honestly, it's kind of shocking how much worse his defensive acquisitions have been compared to Sean. Who are our best defenders currently on the roster? Poyer Hyde Tre Milano Jerry Do you notice something? 4 of those players were acquired by McD without the McBeane. Jerry was obviously already here. Compare it to the list of hacks that Beane has acquired. I'd type out all the bums and disappointments but it'd take too long. All I know is if you eliminate the 2017 fellas, our defense would be the worst in the NFL. If you eliminate Beane's JAG brigade, eh, we'd be okay. Is it time for McD to make the picks again? Beane got the QB, let's thank him for his service and let's put the King of William and Mary back in the Kirk chair. 3 11 11 1 1 1 2 2 3 1 1 6
Nick the Greek Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 The D has been carrying the team for the past few years, prior only to last year. I was sad to see the D regress a little last year but they can’t be a top 5 unit every year. 2 3
TBBills Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) What happened did your ST's thread not do so well? Lets see what happens this year. The defense stepped up when it needed in the second half and playoffs for the most part. I think the first half of the year was some pains with no offseason. It became one of the best second half defenses in the league. Edited April 15, 2021 by TBBills 3 2 3 2
NI Bills Fan Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Given how close Beane and McDermott work, I'm not sure any defensive players would be recruited by Beane without the seal of approval from McDermott. Edited April 15, 2021 by NI Bills Fan 7 8
mushypeaches Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 This is a ridiculous assertion. We've had a top defense until last year when some injuries and opt-outs hurt a lot more than any draft or FA misses did. And frankly, I'm much happier that they have a top offense and a middling defense vs having a top defense and a middling offense It's a much stronger and sustainable brand of football. Would you prefer that we bring another GM in to make these decisions??? Again - ridiculous 5 1
glazeduck Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 While I candidly have not seen the data on this, so don't know if it's effecting things or not, it should also be mentioned along with the defense's "regression", that that tends to happen when your offense puts up more points and plays at a faster pace. I believe we were one of the fastest paced teams last season and we were certainly one of the highest scoring offenses, so purely from a "time on field" standpoint, our defense was going to be worse... Whether that's still true prorated for pace of play and other factors, I'm not sure. It's also extremely silly to pretend like Beane is the only one providing input on these selections. They're absolutely collaborating on making these decisions. Furthermore, the more recently drafted guys have also suffered injuries or (though I'm loathe to defend him), like Oliver, forced into bad roles because of other injuries... I think it's pretty likely the D looks better this year.
YoloinOhio Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 14 more days. Edited April 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio 5 10 4 1
TBBills Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, Rochesterfan said: Just wish in 14 days a bunch of posters could be replaced by a new draft of posters also - rather than the same tired bunch of people starting threads about crap. Yea but at least we know this guy and his schtick. 1
Xwnyer Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: Honestly, it's kind of shocking how much worse his defensive acquisitions have been compared to Sean. Who are our best defenders currently on the roster? Poyer Hyde Tre Milano Jerry Do you notice something? 4 of those players were acquired by McD without the McBeane. Jerry was obviously already here. Compare it to the list of hacks that Beane has acquired. I'd type out all the bums and disappointments but it'd take too long. All I know is if you eliminate the 2017 fellas, our defense would be the worst in the NFL. If you eliminate Beane's JAG brigade, eh, we'd be okay. Is it time for McD to make the picks again? Beane got the QB, let's thank him for his service and let's put the King of William and Mary back in the Kirk chair. Go away please ! 2 1
HOUSE Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Sticks and stones may break his bones but the Beaner is not a wiener 3 3 1
FireChans Posted April 15, 2021 Author Posted April 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, TBBills said: What happened did your ST's thread not do so well? Lets see what happens this year. The defense stepped up when it needed in the second half and playoffs for the most part. I think the first half of the year was some pains with no offseason. It became one of the best second half defenses in the league. Every team had no offseason last year. It was a global pandemic, not just in Erie County. 11 minutes ago, glazeduck said: While I candidly have not seen the data on this, so don't know if it's effecting things or not, it should also be mentioned along with the defense's "regression", that that tends to happen when your offense puts up more points and plays at a faster pace. I believe we were one of the fastest paced teams last season and we were certainly one of the highest scoring offenses, so purely from a "time on field" standpoint, our defense was going to be worse... Whether that's still true prorated for pace of play and other factors, I'm not sure. It's also extremely silly to pretend like Beane is the only one providing input on these selections. They're absolutely collaborating on making these decisions. Furthermore, the more recently drafted guys have also suffered injuries or (though I'm loathe to defend him), like Oliver, forced into bad roles because of other injuries... I think it's pretty likely the D looks better this year. Our per drive averages were mediocre. 1 1 1
mushypeaches Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 I happen to enjoy that we scored 500 points last year. Really don't care that much how many we gave up
YoloinOhio Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Sticks and stones may break his bones but the Beaner is not a wiener Put it on a t-shirt 1
MJS Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 The focus has been on the offense since Beane has been here. Very little has been done on the defense apart from bringing in depth. Beane did bring in some guys on the dline last year with mixed results, but that's basically all. Dane Jackson, a 7th rounder, looks to be a steal. I think AJ Epenesa could be good. Who exactly are you so disappointed in on the defense?
JoPoy88 Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, FireChans said: Honestly, it's kind of shocking how much worse his defensive acquisitions have been compared to Sean. Who are our best defenders currently on the roster? Poyer Hyde Tre Milano Jerry Do you notice something? 4 of those players were acquired by McD without the McBeane. Jerry was obviously already here. Compare it to the list of hacks that Beane has acquired. I'd type out all the bums and disappointments but it'd take too long. All I know is if you eliminate the 2017 fellas, our defense would be the worst in the NFL. If you eliminate Beane's JAG brigade, eh, we'd be okay. Is it time for McD to make the picks again? Beane got the QB, let's thank him for his service and let's put the King of William and Mary back in the Kirk chair. i assume you got the numbers to back that up? We’ll wait. 2
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