Big Blitz Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 I hope to God this gets bumped in September. Great. Good. Hope so. However here is why this is a looming disaster. They have all the fatal flaws championship teams do not. Not one. Not two. ALL OF THEM. They rely way too much on the long ball which is fine but.... They strikeout too much. They are God awful against great pitching. They are slow. They are injury prone. They have 1 reliable starter. They are terrible in the infield. They make lazy stupid plays on the bases and on defense. Sanchez is a liability behind the plate. They don't have a legit left handed bat or #3 hitter. Did I leave anything out? Now I have no doubt they'll get hot throughout the summer. They'll win 90 games maybe and get to the WC game. Maybe win a round. But there is no chance this is a championship team. Zero. None. Zip. Talk me off the ledge because I'm currently hate watching them. Or if you hate them pile on fine by me. Quote
Gugny Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I hope to God this gets bumped in September. Great. Good. Hope so. However here is why this is a looming disaster. They have all the fatal flaws championship teams do not. Not one. Not two. ALL OF THEM. They rely way too much on the long ball which is fine but.... They strikeout too much. They are God awful against great pitching. They are slow. They are injury prone. They have 1 reliable starter. They are terrible in the infield. They make lazy stupid plays on the bases and on defense. Sanchez is a liability behind the plate. They don't have a legit left handed bat or #3 hitter. Did I leave anything out? Now I have no doubt they'll get hot throughout the summer. They'll win 90 games maybe and get to the WC game. Maybe win a round. But there is no chance this is a championship team. Zero. None. Zip. Talk me off the ledge because I'm currently hate watching them. Or if you hate them pile on fine by me. The one thing you left out is that they have a manager who was never qualified to be a major league manager. 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Not watch baseball but at least they have a stadium in NY unlike other "NY" teams. Quote
Greg S Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Not watch baseball but at least they have a stadium in NY unlike other "NY" teams. The "bright lights" and "big city" appeal of East Rutherford, NJ doesn't count? Quote
Rico Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 One thing you missed is that baseball is no longer relevant to the vast majority of American sports fans, joining pro basketball. Of course, hockey was never there. So... it really doesn’t matter what they do to most people. Best to just look back and marvel at all the many pennants the Yankees won during the glory days of baseball. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I hope to God this gets bumped in September. Great. Good. Hope so. However here is why this is a looming disaster. They have all the fatal flaws championship teams do not. Not one. Not two. ALL OF THEM. They rely way too much on the long ball which is fine but.... They strikeout too much. They are God awful against great pitching. They are slow. They are injury prone. They have 1 reliable starter. They are terrible in the infield. They make lazy stupid plays on the bases and on defense. Sanchez is a liability behind the plate. They don't have a legit left handed bat or #3 hitter. Did I leave anything out? Now I have no doubt they'll get hot throughout the summer. They'll win 90 games maybe and get to the WC game. Maybe win a round. But there is no chance this is a championship team. Zero. None. Zip. Talk me off the ledge because I'm currently hate watching them. Or if you hate them pile on fine by me. It's a story of greed. When they were bringing in $320M with a payroll of $240M back in 2004 the profits were great.............fast forward to 2019 and the revenue is $900M and the payroll was closer to $200M. The profit margin got insane and it magnified the greed and lessened the need to win. They will likely end up over .500 for the 29th straight season but Hal Steinbrenner needs an attitude correction. I was glad the woeful Mets actually got a competitive owner..........maybe Hal will feel some pressure to perform going forward. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rico said: One thing you missed is that baseball is no longer relevant to the vast majority of American sports fans, joining pro basketball. Of course, hockey was never there. So... it really doesn’t matter what they do to most people. Best to just look back and marvel at all the many pennants the Yankees won during the glory days of baseball. MLB and NBA are still very relevant to the majority of sports fans.........the numbers and tv $ back it up. (Hockey is mostly irrevelevant though) Basketball is the world's #2 sport and organized youth baseball participation has grown exponentially over the last decade so the narrative that the fanbases of those sports are dying is not correct. But nobody in the US can match up to football.........it's king for viewership...........they just don't play enough games to marginalize baseball and hoops. The only thing people watch "live" on TV anymore is sports and you can tune into your favorite MLB team every night for 6 months and every other night in the case of hoops. Quote
LeviF Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Rico said: One thing you missed is that baseball is no longer relevant to the vast majority of American sports fans, joining pro basketball. Of course, hockey was never there. So... it really doesn’t matter what they do to most people. Best to just look back and marvel at all the many pennants the Yankees won during the glory days of baseball. Baseball seems to come and go, almost pendulum-like in its appeal and popularity. Quote
Greg S Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's a story of greed. When they were bringing in $320M with a payroll of $240M back in 2004 the profits were great.............fast forward to 2019 and the revenue is $900M and the payroll was closer to $200M. The profit margin got insane and it magnified the greed and lessened the need to win. They will likely end up over .500 for the 29th straight season but Hal Steinbrenner needs an attitude correction. I was glad the woeful Mets actually got a competitive owner..........maybe Hal will feel some pressure to perform going forward. I remember George saying "the two most important things in life are breathing and winning and not necessarily in that order". 3 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Baseball seems to come and go, almost pendulum-like in its appeal and popularity. This take reminds me of the old "80% of the work is done by 20% of the people........and 80% of the people think they are the 20%" adage. You and Rico probably aren't the fans of sport to the level you think you are. The numbers do not support the idea that baseball and or basketball have ever not been popular over the last 30+ years. Even after strikes they've drawn fans and done well enough in ratings to keep getting bigger and bigger rights deals. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 16 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I hope to God this gets bumped in September. Great. Good. Hope so. However here is why this is a looming disaster. They have all the fatal flaws championship teams do not. Not one. Not two. ALL OF THEM. They rely way too much on the long ball which is fine but.... They strikeout too much. They are God awful against great pitching. They are slow. They are injury prone. They have 1 reliable starter. They are terrible in the infield. They make lazy stupid plays on the bases and on defense. Sanchez is a liability behind the plate. They don't have a legit left handed bat or #3 hitter. Did I leave anything out? Now I have no doubt they'll get hot throughout the summer. They'll win 90 games maybe and get to the WC game. Maybe win a round. But there is no chance this is a championship team. Zero. None. Zip. Talk me off the ledge because I'm currently hate watching them. Or if you hate them pile on fine by me. Gotta' add the Dick Jauron moment that Aaron Boone provided the other day............when asked about his terrible offense thru 11 game his excuse was "it's hard to hit".😆 1 Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Don’t worry. The pitching staff will come together once German gets over the trauma of his woman beating, and Taillon remembers where home plate is. When is Severino returning? In a normal world Higgy would be the regular catcher and Stink-chez would be the back-up/DH/pinch hitter. I’m beginning to think Sanchez has some incriminating photos of Cashman or something. He sucks as a catcher. My Yankee fan friends laugh at me what I say that Judge shouldn’t be given an extension. I love him as an outfielder, love the home runs, but overall he is not a good hitter. He and Stanton are clones. Probably a wild card team when it’s all said and done. Quote
Gugny Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LeviF91 said: Baseball seems to come and go, almost pendulum-like in its appeal and popularity. The only time it "went" was after the 1994 strike-shortened season. The steroid era brought it back, primarily via the 1998 Sosa/McGwire shitfest, and it hasn't "gone," again. I think Yankees fans think people are losing interest in baseball because Yankees fans are losing interest in baseball because after the Joe Torre era, the Yankees simply haven't been that great. Baseball is alive and well, baby! 1 Quote
LeviF Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gugny said: The only time it "went" was after the 1994 strike-shortened season. The steroid era brought it back, primarily via the 1998 Sosa/McGwire shitfest, and it hasn't "gone," again. I think Yankees fans think people are losing interest in baseball because Yankees fans are losing interest in baseball because after the Joe Torre era, the Yankees simply haven't been that great. Baseball is alive and well, baby! Baseball objectively sucked in the 80s. This is incontrovertible. I am an admitted very casual baseball fan, always have been. Quote
Greg S Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gugny said: The only time it "went" was after the 1994 strike-shortened season. The steroid era brought it back, primarily via the 1998 Sosa/McGwire shitfest, and it hasn't "gone," again. I think Yankees fans think people are losing interest in baseball because Yankees fans are losing interest in baseball because after the Joe Torre era, the Yankees simply haven't been that great. Baseball is alive and well, baby! What's odd is the Yankees always seem to struggle with the Rays who have a payroll of about 10 bucks. I don't know how TB does it but they find a way to field a competitive team with a small payroll. I am not going to panic yet with the Yankees despite the slow start. There is a lot of baseball left to play. Quote
Gugny Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Baseball objectively sucked in the 80s. This is incontrovertible. I am an admitted very casual baseball fan, always have been. If you think baseball sucked in the 80s, then you're even less of a fan than you think! 2 Quote
Beerball Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 LET’S GO METS!!!!! LET’S GO METS!!!!! LET’S GO METS!!!!! LET’S GO METS!!!!! 1 Quote
TBBills Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gugny said: The one thing you left out is that they have a manager who was never qualified to be a major league manager. I don't know if Mets fans are qualified to talk *****. The Mets cant even score a run for deGrom. Edited April 15, 2021 by TBBills Quote
Gugny Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, TBBills said: I don't know if Mets fans are qualified to talk *****. The Mets cant even score a run for deGrom. The Mets have done a horrible job hiring managers for a very long time. I'm not talking *****. I'm sharing my observation. Prior to taking the Yankees Manager job, Aaron Boone had never even coached a little league team, let alone at any level within MLB. It was a stupid hire. It was stupid get rid of Girardi. And it was even more stupid replacing him with Boone. Quote
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