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3 minutes ago, Westside said:

Destroy the country? How? By having the lowest unemployment rates in decades? A strong economy? Peace in the Middle East? Low gas prices? Lower cost of living? Secured our borders?

What has the biden administration done to compare to what Trump has done before the democrats closed the country down over a fake pandemic?

what they haven't done is attack the election system and the Capitol...you know, cornerstones of our republic.

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1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

what they haven't done is attack the election system and the Capitol...you know, cornerstones of our republic.

No, the left just changed the voting process by allowing anyone and their dead relatives vote with mail in votes. 
I actually feel bad for you, having to live with your mental health issues left untreated.

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28 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

blind is believing anything trump says and supporting him.  He's trying to destroy the country and his followers are complicit.  Some still hold tightly the big lie and that Jan 6 was no big deal.  That's blind.

His "followers" believe the left is trying to destroy the country.  And succeeding.   Open borders, endless wars, censorship of free speech, DEI and diversity destroying a culture of merit and exceptionalism, normalizing perversion and decadence, destroying our military by forcing woke values, weaponizing the government against its citizens which it treats as subjects, etc..  Somebody's wrong.

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1 minute ago, Westside said:

No, the left just changed the voting process by allowing anyone and their dead relatives vote with mail in votes. 
I actually feel bad for you, having to live with your mental health issues left untreated.

Lol says the delusional old man.  I'm sure red is crying in his cheerios from your lame zingers.  You literally just believe any bs a pathological liar says, I'm not sure why he's attempting discourse with a lemming.  

 

Give some proof of the dead people voting why don'tcha?  Always with conspiracies.   Even when proven false.

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8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

His "followers" believe the left is trying to destroy the country.  And succeeding.   Open borders, endless wars, censorship of free speech, DEI and diversity destroying a culture of merit and exceptionalism, normalizing perversion and decadence, destroying our military by forcing woke values, weaponizing the government against its citizens which it treats as subjects, etc..  Somebody's wrong.

or perhaps both sides are wrong on some things.  Some of the things MAGA's are wrong on present an existential threat to our republic.  But the methods of achieving their respective goals are drastically different and disturbing...NC just said it.  "F em...we'll do whatever we want or need to..."

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2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I find it funny to be called a "commie" by those who support an ex prez supported by Russia.  It's been over 40 yrs since I studied logic so I'll need to bone up on that fallacy.  be back soon.

 

No, no, please take your time.

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

His "followers" believe the left is trying to destroy the country.  And succeeding.   Open borders, endless wars, censorship of free speech, DEI and diversity destroying a culture of merit and exceptionalism, normalizing perversion and decadence, destroying our military by forcing woke values, weaponizing the government against its citizens which it treats as subjects, etc..  Somebody's wrong.

This is dead on. 

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9 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

you're confusing him with Salwell, who was not censured as far as I know.

As my link noted, this could help Schiff win a senate seat.

 

He's extremely intelligent:

"No matter how many false justifications or slanders you level against me, you but indict yourselves," Schiff said. "As Liz Cheney said, 'there will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.'"

"This resolution attacks me for initiating an investigation into Trump campaign solicitation and acceptance of Russian help in the 2016 election even though the investigation was first led not by me, but by a Republican chairman," Schiff said in his remarks, later adding: "In short, it would accuse me of omnipotence, the leader of some vast Deep State conspiracy, and of course, it is nonsense."

You are correct in my getting Salwell and Schiff confused. Schiff and Salwell were omnipresent for a while there and  I felt like they were the same guy. I understand you don't like what happened but the censure does not really matter in that he did not lose any real power other than being removed from a committee, which in the grand scheme is gonna help him win his next election 

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7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Lol says the delusional old man.  I'm sure red is crying in his cheerios from your lame zingers.  You literally just believe any bs a pathological liar says, I'm not sure why he's attempting discourse with a lemming.  

 

Give some proof of the dead people voting why don'tcha?  Always with conspiracies.   Even when proven false.

I don’t believe a word biden says. Not sure what you’re talking about. It’s nice to see you stick up for your fellow comrade red. I’ll give you proof as soon as you prove all your BS about Trump. Which will never happen.

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18 minutes ago, Westside said:

I don’t believe a word biden says. Not sure what you’re talking about. It’s nice to see you stick up for your fellow comrade red. I’ll give you proof as soon as you prove all your BS about Trump. Which will never happen.

He's on tape for some of it dude.  Receipts exist.  You've got absolutely nada for fraud.  Nothing. 

Joe can go to hell for all i care but Nobody lies more than Trump.  Politician or not.  He's a pathological liar, a narcissist, and an utter imbecile.   Fool me once shame on you fool me 9999999 times your maga.  A slogan which of course he takes credit for but stole.

 

Why cant both sides just agree that both Joe and Trump need to go?  Some conservatives here at least see that.

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9 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

we are not talking about Obama but about trump...so you admit that the Russians interfered to help trump.  Cool, so the investigation was justified.  I don't want them interfering.  Do you, comrade?

 

Sorry but admitting Russia interfered in our elections doesn't equal helping/colluding with Trump just because he won.  But I know that's how you all like to conflate the issue because you still can't accept that Hilly lost and need something to blame other than her.  And I'll bring up Obama because he did nothing about their interference despite knowing about it, again because he knew they couldn't change a single person's vote.

 

8 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

His "followers" believe the left is trying to destroy the country.  And succeeding.   Open borders, endless wars, censorship of free speech, DEI and diversity destroying a culture of merit and exceptionalism, normalizing perversion and decadence, destroying our military by forcing woke values, weaponizing the government against its citizens which it treats as subjects, etc..  Somebody's wrong.

 

Yeah but it's all rational...

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I am curious if anyone knows for certain- were  all the people cancelling reservations for the Jordan Poyer charity event not aware of the location of the event when they signed up? The announcements so far make all the sponsors and players who pulled out seem like garbage people. 

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34 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I am curious if anyone knows for certain- were  all the people cancelling reservations for the Jordan Poyer charity event not aware of the location of the event when they signed up? The announcements so far make all the sponsors and players who pulled out seem like garbage people. 

 

 

Poyer expressed his disappointment over the cancellation and said he was "upset about this is where we are in America." The Bills safety said he could look past differences to try and do good, but he wished more people did the same.

 

"I hope that we could get past that and it seemed we did, but we haven’t," Poyer said. "It seems like our egos get in the way of being a good human being. (Not) sharing love, sharing conversations, sharing laughter with people who may not believe in the same things that you do, it’s a huge problem in America right now."

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9 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Poyer expressed his disappointment over the cancellation and said he was "upset about this is where we are in America." The Bills safety said he could look past differences to try and do good, but he wished more people did the same.

 

"I hope that we could get past that and it seemed we did, but we haven’t," Poyer said. "It seems like our egos get in the way of being a good human being. (Not) sharing love, sharing conversations, sharing laughter with people who may not believe in the same things that you do, it’s a huge problem in America right now."

This is an example of the ultimate goal of the authoritarians.  To condition the population to "self-censor".  People are afraid of the blowback and criticism they'll receive from the system of social justice organizations and mouthpieces and the impact it might have on their compensation opportunities and their standing in various social circles.  Like Pavlov's dogs.   Psychologically conditioning people to avoid consequences.

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