Random Political Thoughts Inc.

[Westside]

10 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

i think that's called a nonsequitor but I need to look it up.  Isn't everyone but pedophiles, against pedophiles?  Mark me down as against.  That was dumb

Why do you defend them?

[Roundybout]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No.

 

Thats the problem.

 

Open your eyes.

 

 

 

 

It makes perfect sense.

 

To those without blinders on.

 

 

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Ohhh it’s more made-up persecution complex from the right, got it. 

[Tommy Callahan]

22 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Ohhh it’s more made-up persecution complex from the right, got it. 

Na, just pointing out the corporate/1% funded Authoritarians in the mix.

 

and how they use social justice topics as the avenue for the statist ideology they support and promote nonstop.

 

it is what it is. 

 

tell us more about how "WE" will be living in 15-minute cities again.   the story where we all share everything. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

On 6/14/2023 at 12:58 PM, Roundybout said:

Ohhh it’s more made-up persecution complex from the right, got it. 

You still don't understand it but keep trying.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

You still don't understand it but keep trying.

To understand MAGA’s?  Lost cause….

[Orlando Buffalo]

8 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

To understand MAGA’s?  Lost cause….

 To be confused on what the comic was clearly showing is an indictment of your and Roundy not the comic. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 6/14/2023 at 12:58 PM, Roundybout said:

Ohhh it’s more made-up persecution complex from the right, got it. 

As opposed to the perpetual victim message from the left which commands center stage 24/7? 

[Roundybout]

14 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

 To be confused on what the comic was clearly showing is an indictment of your and Roundy not the comic. 

It doesn’t even make sense as the Nazi party wanted to eradicate most if not all of the groups in the first panel. 

[Tommy Callahan]

10 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It doesn’t even make sense as the Nazi party wanted to eradicate most if not all of the groups in the first panel. 

The nazis eradicated who they didn't agree with, for a multitude of narratives/reasons.

 

Just like most authoritarian statist governments.

 

But always came back to total state control.

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

5 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

The nazis eradicated who they didn't agree with, for a multitude of narratives/reasons.

 

Just like most authoritarian statist governments.

 

But always came back to total state control.

 

 

The key to your post is "State control".

 

Dictators, authoritarians, and ideologies can be centered around a single figure or a group such as a political party, sometimes both.  Whether Fascists, Communists, Socialists, Monarchies, Theocracies, or whatever other system they claim to represent, all must crush any dissent and competition to their rule. 

They require control of the "messages" transmitted through media (both State and Private) providing their subjects (you are no longer a citizen here) with information. 

They require the ability to censor, block, or discredit any conflicting messages.  No alternative interpretations of events and "facts" are allowed. 

They directly and indirectly control the ability of subjects to be rewarded or punished by economic, political, and social means. 

They require a State monopoly on violence to maintain their rule through fear and intimidation, and in some cases death.  In cases where they maintain the illusion of choice, they hold control  over the electoral process which "rubber stamps" their rule. 

Importantly, they don't recognize the concept of "rights".  No subject has rights, rather they are granted privileges by the State.  Privileges that can be granted or taken away from people based on their allegiance and obedience to the State. 

Some outlaw of reject the religious concept of God.  Not because they don't believe but because under their system there can be no greater power than the power of the State.  Therefore, God cannot be allowed to exist.  

 

How close or far away are we from a system aligned around the principles of authoritarian rule? 

 

That's subject to a lot of interpretations.  But if the following assessment resonates with your perspective you probably feel its closer than most think.  "We are ruled by a government that is corrupt and self-serving, dominated by two political factions that pretend to be at odds with each other all the while moving in lockstep to maintain the status quo".  A status quo where their power grows and your freedoms shrink.  As such liberals are not the enemies of conservatives and conservatives are not the enemies of liberals.  Despite all the bickering and debate about marginal social issues.  The "deep state" holds a firm grip on the core.  The enemy is the institutions and systems of our Federal government.  And while they tell us that Russia, China, Iran, and a host of other external foreign enemies are the biggest threat to our democracy and freedoms the true threats are right there in plain site.  Sitting in the seat of power in DC.    

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The key to your post is "State control".

 

Dictators, authoritarians, and ideologies can be centered around a single figure or a group such as a political party, sometimes both.  Whether Fascists, Communists, Socialists, Monarchies, Theocracies, or whatever other system they claim to represent, all must crush any dissent and competition to their rule. 

They require control of the "messages" transmitted through media (both State and Private) providing their subjects (you are no longer a citizen here) with information. 

They require the ability to censor, block, or discredit any conflicting messages.  No alternative interpretations of events and "facts" are allowed. 

They directly and indirectly control the ability of subjects to be rewarded or punished by economic, political, and social means. 

They require a State monopoly on violence to maintain their rule through fear and intimidation, and in some cases death.  In cases where they maintain the illusion of choice, they hold control  over the electoral process which "rubber stamps" their rule. 

Importantly, they don't recognize the concept of "rights".  No subject has rights, rather they are granted privileges by the State.  Privileges that can be granted or taken away from people based on their allegiance and obedience to the State. 

Some outlaw of reject the religious concept of God.  Not because they don't believe but because under their system there can be no greater power than the power of the State.  Therefore, God cannot be allowed to exist.  

 

How close or far away are we from a system aligned around the principles of authoritarian rule? 

 

That's subject to a lot of interpretations.  But if the following assessment resonates with your perspective you probably feel its closer than most think.  "We are ruled by a government that is corrupt and self-serving, dominated by two political factions that pretend to be at odds with each other all the while moving in lockstep to maintain the status quo".  A status quo where their power grows and your freedoms shrink.  As such liberals are not the enemies of conservatives and conservatives are not the enemies of liberals.  Despite all the bickering and debate about marginal social issues.  The "deep state" holds a firm grip on the core.  The enemy is the institutions and systems of our Federal government.  And while they tell us that Russia, China, Iran, and a host of other external foreign enemies are the biggest threat to our democracy and freedoms the true threats are right there in plain site.  Sitting in the seat of power in DC.    

 

 

Omg…this was just after a post on the left’s perpetual victimhood. This post is bordering on paranoia, much less victimhood. Get some help.

 

btw, modern monarchies havent crushed opposition altho king edward was aligned with hitler for a while. 
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6635225

Edited June 16, 2023 by redtail hawk

[wnyguy]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Omg…this was just after a post on the left’s perpetual victimhood. This post is bordering on paranoia, much less victimhood. Get some help.

 

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Open your eyes, man. You can't be this dumb. Billsy, yes he is that dumb, Tibs, yes as well.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

9 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Open your eyes, man. You can't be this dumb. Billsy, yes he is that dumb, Tibs, yes as well.

I’m more concerned about the alphabet companies spying on me. But not that concerned. I’m an open book. And sometimes it’s helpful, albeit scary, to get ads on cameras when the nite before I was talking to my wife about cameras. 

Edited June 16, 2023 by redtail hawk

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I’m more concerned about the alphabet companies spying on me. But not that concerned. I’m an open book. And sometimes it’s helpful, albeit scary, to get ads on cameras when the nite before I was talking to my wife about cameras. 

Now that is true.

[All_Pro_Bills]

37 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Omg…this was just after a post on the left’s perpetual victimhood. This post is bordering on paranoia, much less victimhood. Get some help.

 

btw, modern monarchies havent crushed opposition altho king edward was aligned with hitler for a while. 
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6635225

Nobody else reacting seems to feel that way.  Maybe you're walking around with your eyes closed?  Or you depend on the system for your livelihood?  

 

As for modern monarchies, I suggest you travel to to Saudi Arabia with the intent of establishing a DEI program to get some firsthand experience on how a modern monarchy would handle that idea? 

[BillsFanNC]

 

@redtail hawk

 

"I'm not worried. I'm in their club. They'd NEVER come for me....."

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Nobody else reacting seems to feel that way.  Maybe you're walking around with your eyes closed?  Or you depend on the system for your livelihood?  

 

As for modern monarchies, I suggest you travel to to Saudi Arabia with the intent of establishing a DEI program to get some firsthand experience on how a modern monarchy would handle that idea? 

Good point.  Queen Rania says "Hi"

 

 

https://www.hellotravel.com/stories/most-beautiful-royal-princesses-in-world

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

@redtail hawk

 

"I'm not worried. I'm in their club. They'd NEVER come for me....."

Public enemy #1.  “Intelligence agencies are flouting the law and buying information about Americans that Congress and the Supreme Court have made clear the government should not have.” 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/odni-commercially-available-information-report/

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

@redtail hawk

 

"I'm not worried. I'm in their club. They'd NEVER come for me....."

I know some very good people in small town and county politics.  Have met a few national figures once or twice.  Was once called on to revive someone who passed out from heat at a Clinton rally (Bill was there supporting Hillary).  Getting emails answered from my Senator is not "being in the club".  But, no.  I've got nothing to hide and I'm certainly not worried about the Biden admin coming after me.  Now, If trump wins...

Edited June 16, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Farley with his trademark eyeroll. Trump doesn’t recognize right or wrong, just what he can get away with and what’s best for him. I see that as a threat.