Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) https://apnews.com/article/turkey-elections-erdogan-presidency-parliament-6291df76874c24550008c80b5c168992 Every Turk I spoke with in Ephesus today voted against Erdogan...Every single one. Damn fascists trying to cheat the will of the people....sound familiar? But populism and autocracy are dying in the public forum. btw, their inflation rate is nearly 70%. Prices change daily. Autocracy is not the answer. So sad for a beautiful country and people. A few bad apples... Oh, and "free speech" Musk is censoring tweets from the opposition party. Why do you MAGA's only support "freedom" for some? Edited May 15, 2023 by redtail hawk
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, because some of the antifa chuds were arrested and we got info from that. As far as I know, none of these guys have been arrested yet. This is not to attack but ask how is it possible that they were arrested last June but still so little known? Someone has to pay for these guys to live and if they are not Feds then how do they have money for all the crap they do? https://www.npr.org/2022/06/11/1104405804/patriot-front-white-supremacist-arrested-near-idaho-pride
Buffarukus Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, because some of the antifa chuds were arrested and we got info from that. As far as I know, none of these guys have been arrested yet. so basically a marching band who have parades at convienent times and scare some liberals because they have exposed forearms that prove its a cluster of white males. when the Lincoln project gets busted running a similar scam during a very specific time its no longer conspiracy or deflection to think these appearances are designed and paid for i would think. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/10/29/lincoln-project-says-it-planted-white-supremacist-impersonators-at-event-for-virginia-republican-candidate/ my q is there going to be a point where the great white threat in america. #1 on the FBIs list. constant talking point of media. is going to present its diabolical plan. 350 million people. at least a decade of fearmongering. we got jan 6th..nothing to do with race. of coarse a bunch of insane people of every spectrum of color committing violence. but the supply isnt even close to the demand "they are plotting and are everywhere" " we must stop them!" as normal people are pushed into that pile...because they dont agree with dems. a very low bar to be a nazi white supremist. so do liberals realize that this is and always was just a bunch of horses#!+ yet? id think so but they are still eager to jump on board the first sniff of "supremacy" and continually try to hammer any criminal or thought into a white supremists mold regardless how far off it may be. i think most people, including minorities roll there eyes at the claims for the most part. its far past the point of absurdity but ill keep watch. i dont like racists orginizations of any kind so here's to bringing them down from somewhere they are such a threat. even liberals have to admit optically it is backwards. a bunch of middle aged people dressed head to toe in american flags with dredded red ball caps screaming about freedoms or young adults head to toe in black, always wearing masks, with their own black flags. white people. screaming shut down opposing ideas or they will burn it down. maybe i watch to many movies but those are usually the bad guys. Edited May 15, 2023 by Buffarukus 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/14/asia/thailand-elections-vote-result-monday-intl-hnk/index.html. No mention on Fox of this conservative defeat in a large Asian nation, much bigger than the one we went to war for. The tight race and resulting runoff in Turkey gets a small story 2/3 of the way down the page. Meanwhile Turkey is the cover story on Drudge and CNN and the Thai vote is prominently displayed. My conclusion is that Fox viewers just don't care about world events and don't accept that what happens elsewhere affects us. Ignorance is not bliss. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: The great philosopher, Caturd! What does Dogvomit have to say about it. Morons.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Buffarukus said: my q is there going to be a point where the great white threat in america. #1 on the FBIs list. constant talking point of media. is going to present its diabolical plan. 350 million people. at least a decade of fearmongering. we got jan 6th..nothing to do with race. of coarse a bunch of insane people of every spectrum of color committing violence. but the supply isnt even close to the demand "they are plotting and are everywhere" " we must stop them!" as normal people are pushed into that pile...because they dont agree with dems. a very low bar to be a nazi white supremist. might help if the MAGA's condemned the actions of the white supremacists but ain't gonna happen. They're vital to your success or you may actually be one... Edited May 15, 2023 by redtail hawk
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: might help if the MAGA's condemned the actions of the white supremacists but ain't gonna happen. They're vital to your success or you may actually be one... Perhaps we should have a leader that says "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides." Or "KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Perhaps we should have a leader that says "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides." Or "KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” Have u noticed that he lies all the time? He also spoke directly to the proud boys hate group and said there were very fine people among the neo nazis in Charlottesville. And had Nick Fuentes and Kanye West to a private lunch. Called Mexicans rapists. Called predominantly minority countries "$hitholes". I could easily give more examples. Are you really dumb enough to believe trump isn't racist or is it just more convenient to ignore the truth and believe his lies? Perhaps both. But if the everyday MAGA's disavowed white supremacist groups and lived by ani racist policies, we progressive might actually believe it. Fat chance.... Edited May 15, 2023 by redtail hawk
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Have u noticed that he lies all the time? He also spoke directly to the proud boys hate group and said there were very fine people among the neo nazis in Charlottesville. And had Nick Fuentes and Kanye West to a private lunch. Called Mexicans rapists. Called predominantly minority countries "$hitholes". I could easily give more examples. Are you really dumb enough to believe trump isn't racist or is it just more convenient to ignore the truth and believe his lies? Perhaps both. But if the everyday MAGA's disavowed white supremacist groups and lived by ani racist policies, we progressive might actually believe it. Fat chance.... "I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists," You believe Mexicans can't be rapists and no other countries are crapholes? Your inability to read more than the media tells you is amazing. You asked for a leader to denounce them, he did and you said he was bad for denouncing them 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists," really. who exactly? For what reason were any in that group in Charlottesville. Why do you defend an obvious racist? It's you, not me turning logic into pretzels to believe the lies trump says repeatedly. What he says is meaningless (remember bleach for covid- sure you do but he didn't really mean right?). What he does is what matters. a few good examples of his duplicity: https://www.politico.eu/article/15-most-offensive-things-trump-campaign-feminism-migration-racism/ Edited May 15, 2023 by redtail hawk
Doc Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: really. who exactly? For what reason were any in that group in Charlottesville. Why do you defend an obvious racist? It's you, not me turning logic into pretzels to believe the lies trump says repeatedly. What he says is meaningless (remember bleach for covid- sure you do but he didn't really mean right?). What he does is what matters. a few good examples of his duplicity: https://www.politico.eu/article/15-most-offensive-things-trump-campaign-feminism-migration-racism/ Joke's a racist too. Just ask Kammy. You just ignore it because he's a Dem. 1 1
sherpa Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: Have u noticed that he lies all the time? He also spoke directly to the proud boys hate group and said there were very fine people among the neo nazis in Charlottesville. And the lie gets repeated again. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, sherpa said: And the lie gets repeated again. splain...I realized that I talked only to English speaking Turks on election day there. Thinking about it, it's likely similar there to the US: Largely the educated versus the uneducated. Is that your experience in your extensive travels? 1
Tiberius Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 A historic event occurred at the end of April: According to estimates from the United Nations, India, with more than 1.4 billion people, surpassed China in population.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Military coup incoming, I fear I hope not. Hopefully this is a harbinger of the next US election and the Turkish runoff. A global rejection of the far right...perhaps the UK can undo Brexit but it will be difficult. Edited May 15, 2023 by redtail hawk 1
sherpa Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: splain...I realized that I talked only to English speaking Turks on election day there. Thinking about it, it's likely similar there to the US: Largely the educated versus the uneducated. Is that your experience in your extensive travels? I quoted your claim that Trump said the oft repeated lie that he was talking about neo Nazis or white supremacist's when claiming there were "good people on both sides..." He didn't, and he called the behavior of those two groups despicable twice in that answer. This lie gets repeated over and over on this site, and has been addressed in detail many times. As an aside, it is nonsense like that claim that empowers pro Trump folks to believe the disingenuous nature of these claims is intentional, and victimizes him. To your question which is unrelated to my quote, I have no interest in posting my views based on "extensive travels," unless it involves a situation I am quite familiar with. These "extensive travels" have taught me that is is idiotic to claim valid opinion based on tourist visits. In my mind you can't know a country until you have lived in the culture, and not really well until you have raised kids there. 5
Roundybout Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I hope not. Hopefully this is a harbinger of the next US election and the Turkish runoff. A global rejection of the far right...perhaps the UK can undo Brexit but it will be difficult. I hope not either, I’m just concerned about the backlash from the establishment over there. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I hope not. Hopefully this is a harbinger of the next US election and the Turkish runoff. A global rejection of the far right...perhaps the UK can undo Brexit but it will be difficult. Hard right. Like a global non elected group controlling peoples lives/government policy. If right being authoritarian. 1
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