Random Political Thoughts Inc.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, letsgoteam said:

Those who are taking victory laps because both TN legislaters were reappointed, I don't get the victory laps. The very day, hours even, after they were "expelled" news outlets were already saying they were most likely to be reinstated. 

 

So from day one to me, I knew it was going to be a bunch of hoopla and then they'd be back in a very short amount of time.

 

 

 

 

Really?  The cracker Tenn R's with a 2/3 majority from gerrymandering just got goosed on national TV and you don't get it?  Long, long way from colorblindness in Tenn but it's a start.  Terrible state to live but some have little choice...Memphis and Nashville trying their best.  Chattanooga also has some brave youngin's

Edited April 13, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Anyone else think this is absolutely nuts?

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/26274e44-f017-3fcf-b5d1-ea392d6f4c0d/which-healthcare-company-will.html

Thanks Obama 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Thanks Obama 

If he felt he could have gotten real public healthcare, he would've done it.   Unfortunately, they had to pull teeth (and perhaps a few fingernails) to get this lousy compromise of private/public done.  The end result was an abortion of policy but coverage for 10's of millions American who were uninsured. doesn't work but how are we gonna rid ourselves of the health care leaches with R connections?

Edited April 13, 2023 by redtail hawk

[reddogblitz]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

If he felt he could have gotten real public healthcare, he would've done it.   Unfortunately, they had to pull teeth (and perhaps a few fingernails) to get this lousy compromise of private/public done.  The end result was an abortion of policy but coverage for 10's of millions American who were uninsured. doesn't work but how are we gonna rid ourselves of the health care leaches with R connections?

 

The Democrats had a majority in the HoR and the Senate and the Presidency.  All the Republicans voted against it and some Democrats and it still passed.  They could have done whatever they wanted including public option.  They chose not to and passed what they wanted to pass.

 

I knew we were doomed when they brought in the heavy lobbying insurance companies help them figure out what to do.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

7 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

If he felt he could have gotten real public healthcare, he would've done it.   Unfortunately, they had to pull teeth (and perhaps a few fingernails) to get this lousy compromise of private/public done.  The end result was an abortion of policy but coverage for 10's of millions American who were uninsured. doesn't work but how are we gonna rid ourselves of the health care leaches with R connections?

Democrats they had the votes, couldn’t get it through their own corrupt party because it’s not what they really wanted. The lobbyists had the insurance companies write the policy. 
 

My health care was awesome and cheap 20 years ago. Like usual the government stepped in and made it expensive and crappy and shockingly politicians and corporations got richer too. Like always.  
 

when will you people realize giving these idiots more control over your money and life is the wrong idea? 

Edited April 13, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Democrats had a majority in the HoR and the Senate and the Presidency.  All the Republicans voted against it and some Democrats and it still passed.  They could have done whatever they wanted including public option.  They chose not to and passed what they wanted to pass.

 

I knew we were doomed when they brought in the heavy lobbying insurance companies help them figure out what to do.

Yes, all true.  The D's are also motivated by lobbyist dollars altho providing insurance for 40 mil more Americans would never have been an R priority.  Hell, the R's have been trying to rescind Obamacare ever since it was passed.  Who do you think the insurance companies have more in their pockets?

[B-Man]

 

 

                                  

 

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

Yes, all true.  The D's are also motivated by lobbyist dollars altho providing insurance for 40 mil more Americans would never have been an R priority.  Hell, the R's have been trying to rescind Obamacare ever since it was passed.  Who do you think the insurance companies have more in their pockets?

I worked for one of the largest insurance companies on the planet when Obama won and Obamacare was passed- I assure you that the insurance industry loved Obamacare. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

27 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I worked for one of the largest insurance companies on the planet when Obama won and Obamacare was passed- I assure you that the insurance industry loved Obamacare. 

uh huh.  and so did 40 million uninsured.  I assure you of that.

[Roundybout]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

                                  

 

 

 

You guys can’t even do a boycott correctly lmfao 

 

 

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Who do you think the insurance companies have more in their pockets?V

 

I would suspect it's about even.  Maybe skewed more to who is in power at the moment.

 

The ACA had some good things , but it fell FAR short of what President Obama and a Democrat Congress promised which is the point.  

Edited April 13, 2023 by reddogblitz

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

You guys can’t even do a boycott correctly lmfao 

 

 

You think this beer is going to sell so well that 10 employees can't keep up? I am gonna buy from local breweries, which is what I have done for several years now simply because INBEV has destroyed several great beers over the years. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

7 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Yes, all true.  The D's are also motivated by lobbyist dollars altho providing insurance for 40 mil more Americans would never have been an R priority.  Hell, the R's have been trying to rescind Obamacare ever since it was passed.  Who do you think the insurance companies have more in their pockets?

 

Why … Bernie and Warren…. Of course 

 

progressive!!

 

😮 

https://bluetent.us/articles/campaigns-elections/a-surprising-number-of-progressives-took-big-pharma-money-in/

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Why … Bernie and Warren…. Of course 

 

progressive!!

 

😮

https://bluetent.us/articles/campaigns-elections/a-surprising-number-of-progressives-took-big-pharma-money-in/

Interesting and not suspected.  But this piece is about pharma not insurance co's

[T&C]

Passes 70-40.

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/04/13/florida-house-prepares-to-vote-on-6-week-abortion-ban

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Tennessee just looks worse and worse.  still fighting the civil war.  And they'll lose again

https://newschannel9.com/news/local/hung-out-to-dry-leaked-audio-reveals-tn-gop-caucus-infighting-after-expulsion-votes-cameron-sexton-cepicky-garrett-lamberth

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

Interesting and not suspected.  But this piece is about pharma not insurance co's

Ok

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/478511-progressives-raise-red-flags-over-health-insurer-donations/

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Ok

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/478511-progressives-raise-red-flags-over-health-insurer-donations/

Nice find.  I guess they thought Biden would win and know he's against Medicare for all.  I don't believe D's are lily white when it comes to donations.  I'm happy to see them called out.  Now let's all agree to strict campaign contribution limits and rescinding Citizens united.  I'm betting filthy clarence will be on the wrong side however.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

Nice find.  I guess they thought Biden would win and know he's against Medicare for all.  I don't believe D's are lily white when it comes to donations.  I'm happy to see them called out.  Now let's all agree to strict campaign contribution limits and rescinding Citizens united.  I'm betting filthy clarence will be on the wrong side however.

An interesting idea I like is the campaigns are federally funded and equal amongst candidates. I’d gladly pay tax money to prevent legalized corruption. 

Being good at fund raising has nothing to do with execution of high office. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

An interesting idea I like is the campaigns are federally funded and equal amongst candidates. I’d gladly pay tax money to prevent legalized corruption. 

Totally agree.  Hell, it shouldn't cost that much to run campaigns.  Debates are cheap and the networks will broadcast them for free.

 

btw, I discussed Medicare for all with Tim Kaine at a fundraiser a couple of years ago.  He was against it and still seems to be.  Most centrist Dems are.  I'm not sure why.  He didn't give me a satisfactory reason other than lots of jobs will be lost and the health care sector is very important to the economy.  Still like the guy but disagree on this point.  More troubling is the progressives hypocrisy here.  The ends justify the means doesn't fly with me.