Random Political Thoughts Inc.

[Orlando Buffalo]

9 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Before Covid, ivermectin was a rarely prescribed drug in western humans.  GI nematodes are rarely encountered here There are much easier anti parasitics to prescribe and it is most commonly used in veterinary medicine 

https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

 

This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care.

[Doc]

But hey, remdesivir and masks..

Edited March 4, 2023 by Doc

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

 

This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care.

No, American doctors treat mostly American illnesses.  Unless you work in an International travel clinic, you most likely have never prescribed it.  Common things are common, just not here....

Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

 

Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988. It proved ideal in many ways, being highly effective and broad-spectrum, safe, well tolerated and could be easily administered (a single, annual oral dose). 

 

What was the reasoning for your preferred media outlets to refer to it as horse medicine as opposed to trying to report it straightforward? 

 

It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this?

2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

 

This article is from 2017, so not political in nature, and shows that it has been used quite often to good effect, just not in western people since we rarely get parasites it kills. But the line I thought was most telling against the "horse medicine" statements "Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating, disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases". We have known for some time that a quarter of a billion people take it annually but since they are poor liberals don't care.

How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this?

How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid?

 

This is how science works and how we find answers to difficult questions.  It's often messy, something greatly misunderstood by many on this board

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207995

[Orlando Buffalo]

20 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this?

How does a medicine for tapeworms work on a virus like covid?

Invermectin is given to 250 million people a year and less than 1 million horses, you are truly special. As for how it works, maybe read what I posted from 2017 otherwise I don't know what to say because if you are illiterate I can't help you 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

23 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It’s commonly given to horses, and many conservatives bought it from veterinary outlets to get their fix. Do you deny this?

I don’t deny it, nor do I care who took what or where they got it. It’s a medication, proven safe and effective and used by hundreds of millions of people over decades. Why did your favored media mockingly refer to it as horse medicine? Why not just play it straight? 
 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I don’t deny it, nor do I care who took what or where they got it. It’s a medication, proven safe and effective and used by hundreds of millions of people over decades. Why did your favored media mockingly refer to it as horse medicine? Why not just play it straight? 
 

In the US, it is a horse medicine.  Avoid eating shite and you should never need it:  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/worms-in-humans/

Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

In the US, it is a horse medicine.

In the US it is approved for human use, just not Covid, please stop pretending you are a doctor. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

In the US it is approved for human use, just not Covid, please stop pretending you are a doctor. 

approved and rarely used (perhaps occasionally in red states where outhouses still exist).  I couldn't care less what you think of me.  Your disapproval is a badge of honor.  I practiced very successfully for over 30 years and could find a job in any state and many countries tomorrow.

Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

In the US, it is a horse medicine.  Avoid eating shite and you should never need it:  https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/worms-in-humans/

https://clincalc.com/DrugStats/Drugs/Ivermectin

 

Any thoughts on why US doctors prescribed horse medicine for people over 300,000 times in 2017? It certainly wasn’t covid. 
 

I eagerly await your spin. Should be good. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

https://clincalc.com/DrugStats/Drugs/Ivermectin

 

Any thoughts on why US doctors prescribed horse medicine for people over 300,000 times in 2017? It certainly wasn’t covid. 
 

I eagerly await your spin. Should be good. 

Probably for those "damn foreigners" who immigrated from "shite hole" countries or off label by fringe doctors like that witch doctor who prescribed it 1000ands of time for Covid.  or maybe in barefoot, poor sanitation red state areas.  I can't recall a single patient with it on their med list.

Edited March 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

Probably for those "damn foreigners" who immigrated from "shite hole" countries or off label by fringe doctors like that witch doctor who prescribed it 1000ands of time for Covid.

I knew it would be good. Thanks for not disappointing. 
 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Humpty Dumpty's wall is falling down

https://newrepublic.com/article/170959/cpac-2023-bannon-trump-desantis

[T&C]

Trump is giving a wonderful speech right now on Fox News... tune in.

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

approved and rarely used (perhaps occasionally in red states where outhouses still exist).  I couldn't care less what you think of me.  Your disapproval is a badge of honor.  I practiced very successfully for over 30 years and could find a job in any state and many countries tomorrow.

If you were a doctor you would have never had written something so ignorant. I have family who are actual doctors who explain to me that Ivermectin is not likely to help me should I come down with COVID because the studies that prove it's effectiveness are suspect. How would a real doctor not know what it was and it's uses after the past few year? Every current doctor knows what semaglutide is simply because they are guaranteed to be asked about it.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

What does semaglutide have to do with it?  You don't even know my specialty yet assume my patients asked about Ivermectin.  You know what they say about people who make assumptions?  But one of the reasons I retired early (besides the fact that I could) was stupid people who were spreading covid like the clap in the midst of a condom shortage...and not caring when my colleagues got sick or died.  In fact, being militant about it ,like it was some kind of noble pursuit.  I'm betting you were one of them.

Edited March 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

Trump is giving a wonderful speech right now on Fox News... tune in.

is kari lake kissing his ass?

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/04/trump-cpac-speech-republicans-george-bush

I see this as good news:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-overwhelming-wins-cpacs-republican-primary-straw-poll-desantis-coming-distant-second

Edited March 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Orlando Buffalo]

22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

What does semaglutide have to do with it?  You don't even know my specialty yet assume my patients asked about Ivermectin.  You know what they say about people who make assumptions?  But one of the reasons I retired early (besides the fact that I could) was stupid people who were spreading covid like the clap in the midst of a condom shortage...and not caring when my colleagues got sick or died.  In fact, being militant about it ,like it was some kind of noble pursuit.  I'm betting you were one of them.

My thoughts on COVID are well documented on this website because I had a ton of time during 2020 due to my not going out into crowds. Your assumptions about me are incorrect but I notice you still have not told us your specialty, so please tell me what sector of medicine would not have a discussion about Ivermectin in 2020 and 2021. 

[T&C]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

is kari lake kissing his ass?

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/04/trump-cpac-speech-republicans-george-bush

Speech has been over for awhile so idk... switched over to the Penguins/Panthers game.