Kelly to Allen Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Homelander said: You have never left the country, I get it. So, it’s not about cultural purity, it’s just about the fact that millions of people want to move to the West and, apparently, ruin everything with their foreign ways because "assimilation" only works if you’re already a carbon copy of the host culture, right? I guess the deeper question here is why you’re so threatened by change. Last time I checked, the West’s whole identity is built on the idea of being a melting pot, but now we're acting like a few new ingredients is a full-on disaster. Anything to distract from the absolute shitshow going on in Washington right now, huh? I've been all over north America....
Homelander Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Kelly to Allen said: I've been all over north America.... Exactly
Kelly to Allen Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Homelander said: Exactly And lol? 23 minutes ago, Homelander said: You have never left the country, I get it. So, it’s not about cultural purity, it’s just about the fact that millions of people want to move to the West and, apparently, ruin everything with their foreign ways because "assimilation" only works if you’re already a carbon copy of the host culture, right? I guess the deeper question here is why you’re so threatened by change. Last time I checked, the West’s whole identity is built on the idea of being a melting pot, but now we're acting like a few new ingredients is a full-on disaster. Anything to distract from the absolute shitshow going on in Washington right now, huh? " Why are you so threatened by change" Why are you trying to change the demographics of these Western nations to non European? That's incredibly weird and kinda sick If tens of millions of European economic migrants just started going into Ghana or Zimbabwe, would you ask their population, " hey why are you so threatened bro?" " It's just different foods and we need like doctors and stuff " That's completely insane and you would call it neo colonialism Anti white coded words like "racism or white supremacy" are used to circumvent any political identity around being European. Ie you're just being antiwhite.... Nobody has any issues with limited immigration for different labor purposes. That's not what's happening European nations have a moral right to their own sovereignty. If you think otherwise you need to explain why you want to change those nations? Edited 20 hours ago by Kelly to Allen
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Britain becoming an Islamic Republic is not fine lol. White supremacy is a nonsense antiwhite term. White/Western nations exist lol France, the UK, Canada, Ireland. Are you saying those nations don't have a right to exist or have sovereignty lol Are Chinese ppl " Asian supremacists" The West was not built on the idea of a melting pot lol. You are completely off the rails. Immigration or needing an occasional influx of foreign labor for medical services or engineering doesn't mean Canada turns into India lol. It doesn't even mean they should have the same political rights. That's completely insane and genocidal masochism Again, nobody has a problem with minimum regulated immigration. An invasion of tens of millions of ppl is not that. You're like the boomer meme drooling " as long as the replacement is legal" lol Gotta say, love your candor Not afraid to tell everyone that you judge based on skin color, nationality, ethnicity and religion. Never mind intelligence, ethics or beauty. We see what you prioritize and we couldn’t disagree more. It’s just not done. It’s the royal we. As an Anglophile, you understand… 1
Kelly to Allen Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Gotta say, love your candor Not afraid to tell everyone that you judge based on skin color, nationality, ethnicity and religion. Never mind intelligence, ethics or beauty. We see what you prioritize and we couldn’t disagree more. It’s just not done. It’s the royal we. As an Anglophile, you understand… It's not mutually exclusive. If a person in Ghana said he was worried about his nations sovereignty being compromised, would you say " hey Man don't you value the intelligence and ethics of your Invaders?" Stop being pedantic and silly. One can have concern about national sovereignty and not be a racial/ ethnic determinist.... The human condition is comprehensive obviously which we would agree on. Skin color is also not race. its a phenotype Racial diversity is much deeper than " White or black" it's more complicated than that. Not that you didn't know that but ppl often say this and it confuses ppl 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Gotta say, love your candor Not afraid to tell everyone that you judge based on skin color, nationality, ethnicity and religion. Never mind intelligence, ethics or beauty. We see what you prioritize and we couldn’t disagree more. It’s just not done. It’s the royal we. As an Anglophile, you understand… I'm curious if you think the native American tribes were wrong for valuing their uniqueness? Did they have a moral right to preserve their identity and sovereignty Or does your disdain only paint a broad brush on European ppl. After all you just said " you know what I value" Edited 20 hours ago by Kelly to Allen
Kelly to Allen Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Gotta say, love your candor Not afraid to tell everyone that you judge based on skin color, nationality, ethnicity and religion. Never mind intelligence, ethics or beauty. We see what you prioritize and we couldn’t disagree more. It’s just not done. It’s the royal we. As an Anglophile, you understand… Every nation or ppl should have some degree of judgement on who enters their own country. To not would be naive and childish
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: It's not mutually exclusive. If a person in Ghana said he was worried about his nations sovereignty being compromised, would you say " hey Man don't you value the intelligence and ethics of your Invaders?" Stop being pedantic and silly. One can have concern about national sovereignty and not be a racial/ ethnic determinist.... The human condition is comprehensive obviously which we would agree on. Skin color is also not race. its a phenotype Racial diversity is much deeper than " White or black" it's more complicated than that. Not that you didn't know that but ppl often say this and it confuses ppl Wow. More enlightening honesty. But not in a good way. Racial diversity is the inevitable mix of genetics over generations. Even Thomas Jefferson advanced that evolutionary diversity. It’s a good thing. With diverse phenotypes. Racial purity is a myth. if I lived in Ghana , I d be looking for well heeled investors of any color, gender or religion. I’d make sure to verify their promises. but once again your obvious beliefs and transparency are appreciated. It’s much easier to argue against a real position than a cynically imagined one. Edited 20 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
Kelly to Allen Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Wow. More enlightening honesty. But not in a good way. Racial diversity is the inevitable mix of genetics over generations. Even Thomas Jefferson advanced that evolutionary diversity. It’s a good thing. With diverse phenotypes. Racial purity is a myth. if I lived in Ghana , I d be looking for well heeled investors of any color, gender or religion. I’d the. Make sure to verify their promises. I agree, your true colors are definitely coming out. And it's bordering on some pretty dark ideas. Nobody said anything about racial purity. That's a strawman and doesn't make sense as all lifeforms have some mixture. This is like saying Labradors don't exist because dog breeds aren't pure, whatever that means lol...So that was weird. Ppl are different. That's a fact. National sovereignty exists too obviously, at least I hope you believe that. Ppl being distinct doesn't mean purity. Also Thomas Jefferson did not believe in changing the demographics of America. Not sure where you got that from. The Constitution even says "for our posterity"... Let's explore more here what you actually think. You said ( if ) you live in Ghana ... Do the ppl of Ghana have a right to self determination and sovereignty for their distinct people? Edited 19 hours ago by Kelly to Allen
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: It's not mutually exclusive. If a person in Ghana said he was worried about his nations sovereignty being compromised, would you say " hey Man don't you value the intelligence and ethics of your Invaders?" Stop being pedantic and silly. One can have concern about national sovereignty and not be a racial/ ethnic determinist.... The human condition is comprehensive obviously which we would agree on. Skin color is also not race. its a phenotype Racial diversity is much deeper than " White or black" it's more complicated than that. Not that you didn't know that but ppl often say this and it confuses ppl I'm curious if you think the native American tribes were wrong for valuing their uniqueness? Did they have a moral right to preserve their identity and sovereignty Or does your disdain only paint a broad brush on European ppl. After all you just said " you know what I value" Two quotes in one post. Imitation is the highest form of praise. native Americans got a raw deal. They were played. Just like the American working class who likely face the same fate. Edited 19 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
Kelly to Allen Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Two quote in one post. Imitation is the highest form of praise. native Americans got a raw deal. They were played. Just like the American working class who likely face the same fate. At least we agree on something.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: This is like saying Labradors don't exist because dog breeds aren't pure, whatever that means lol...So that was weird. Ppl are different. That's a fact Now, this is bizarre. My current dogs are 1/2 aussies, 1/4 jack Russel’s and about10 other breeds. They’re irreplaceable. If cloning wasn’t so unnatural and bizarre, I’d consider it. Were they pure, they’d be wolves. Wouldn’t want to own wolves. thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Each one was worth 3/5 of a human in voting terms. Helped him win an election and then he made many more by sharing his sperm with African slaves… Edited 19 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
Kelly to Allen Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Now, this is bizarre. My current dogs are 1/2 aussies, 1/4 jack Russel’s and about10 other breeds. They’re irreplaceable. If cloning wasn’t so unnatural and bizarre, I’d consider it. Were they pure, they’d be wolves. Wouldn’t want to own wolves. thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Each one was worth 3/5 of a human in voting terms. Helped him win an election and then he made many more by sharing his sperm with African slaves… So you agree lol. Dog breeds exist , not sure why you brought up slavery... Are you suggesting that the black Americans don't exist? Not sure what this has to do with national sovereignty and political will of said nation. 14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Now, this is bizarre. My current dogs are 1/2 aussies, 1/4 jack Russel’s and about10 other breeds. They’re irreplaceable. If cloning wasn’t so unnatural and bizarre, I’d consider it. Were they pure, they’d be wolves. Wouldn’t want to own wolves. thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Each one was worth 3/5 of a human in voting terms. Helped him win an election and then he made many more by sharing his sperm with African slaves… Can you try to answer my question because I want to know what you really believe Do the people of Ghana in my hypothetical have a right to self determination and sovereignty over their own nation? This has nothing to do with " needing doctors or food" lol Edited 19 hours ago by Kelly to Allen
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: So you agree lol. Dog breeds exist , not sure why you brought up slavery... Are you suggesting that the black Americans don't exist? Not sure what this has to do with national sovereignty and political will of said nation. Can you try to answer my question because I want to know what you really believe Do the people of Ghana in my hypothetical have a right to self determination and sovereignty over their own nation? They can’t be picky. They have the right to but if some nyc mobster wanted to run the place he would 1
Kelly to Allen Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: They can’t be picky. They have the right to but if some nyc mobster wanted to run the place he would Touche lol I'm not a big trump fan. I think we'll agree he plays on the vulnerabilities of the American working class that's been sold out for 4-5 decades Trumps administration IMHO will be exposed as a con and probably fail in spectacular fashion Edited 19 hours ago by Kelly to Allen 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 8 hours ago, IrishLass said: I don't have any issues with the current regime, so no need for me to move anywhere. It's YOU that's having the problem. Owning the Libs wasn't the point, but it's a nice bonus. She/he/they have left the building. Memories. 1
Kelly to Allen Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: She/he/they have left the building. Memories. Love the cranberries. This is my favorite song by her 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: She/he/they have left the building. Memories. This is off politics but her death was really sad as she eventually was overtaken by alcoholism. I told this story before that I had severe anxiety attacks from alcohol withdrawal and her story also helped bring clarity to how dangerous and debased my life had become. She's one of the most talented singers ever imo 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Love the cranberries. This is my favorite song by her This is off politics but her death was really sad as she eventually was overtaken by alcoholism. I told this story before that I had severe anxiety attacks from alcohol withdrawal and her story also helped bring clarity to how dangerous and debased my life had become. She's one of the most talented singers ever imo We are miles apart. Your fav doesn’t do it for me. This was my psyche song for everything from a challenging work day to a double black diamond. Worked almost every time yet I have 2 bad knees. 1
Roundybout Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 9 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: The question isnt about the moral legitimacy of the third Reich. He's saying we won WW2 and the benefits are European leaders are facilitating it's own destruction. All those souls were lost so Britain could become an Islamic Republic in 10 years lol What Islam couldn't do for a thousand years is happening in one generation.... It's not mutually exclusive So yes I'll defend him. It's perfectly rational Everyone that died in WW2 on the allies side would be completely shocked at the masochistic suicidal nature of the West right now The free migration of people across the world will happen regardless. You have no moral right to force people to stay in squalor. Now, European countries as a whole need to adopt better policies when it comes to assimilation and free speech, I will fully agree, but immigration is not causing the “destruction” of the west or anything close to it. 1
IrishLass Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Gotta say, love your candor Not afraid to tell everyone that you judge based on skin color, nationality, ethnicity and religion. Never mind intelligence, ethics or beauty. We see what you prioritize and we couldn’t disagree more. It’s just not done. It’s the royal we. As an Anglophile, you understand… Islamic culture is anti-woman, essentially. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, IrishLass said: Islamic culture is anti-woman, essentially. so is maga. 1
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