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9 hours ago, SCBills said:

Wasn’t the President of Mexico some lib hero for threatening us over avocados after Trump got elected?

 

 

This announcement is surprising even to me. I am not sure how Mexico government is going to spin it to their own people. 

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Greetings from Cuba, the first communist country I’ve ever visited. Firstly, it’s likely not going to be communist for long. The embargo and the easy access to green cards from the US for Cubans is taking its toll. 10% of the population has left in the last 3 years. Ask trump and Rubio about automatic green cards for Cubans. Seems antithetical to his proclaimed immigration policy but that’s how they roll. All that said, it’s a beautiful country with friendly people. I’ve yet to see an armed soldier or policeman. I’ve walked the streets at night both alone and with others with no problem. They’re low on oil getting almost all from Venezuela. Secondarily there’s garbage in the streets because the trucks have little gas. There are blackouts everyday for 1-3 hours for the same reason. Since we are with a university group, we met with several journalists and artists  They admitted censorship but not at the cost of imprisonment. Anti government material results in harassment and at worst, exile.  One of the artists painted the famous Obama sketch in light blue after his visit here. No problems for that. They were very hopeful til trump took over for him. We go to Jamaica every year. The standard of living seems much better in Cuba. So communism will likely fail here ( the journalists agree) but it hasn’t done badly compared to other Caribbean countries. Havana has a university for 60000 students that is free. Healthcare is free. 

maybe there’s a happy medium…

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But what would he know ?

 

Another January to remember Cuba

American Thinker, by Sylvia Canto Jr.

 

Cuba became an independent country in 1902. You can divide the island’s history into two periods: the pre-Castro years and the current regime’s period in power since 1959.

 

I was born in the last decade of pre-Castro Cuba. My story so typical of the other kids born in the 1950s. We were the grandchildren or great-grandchildren of immigrants from Spain or elsewhere.

 

Our ancestors came to Cuba because it was a prosperous island, an attractive place for Spaniards seeking a better life, for Jewish refugees from Europe, hardworking Asians, and others. 

 

It was a young and vibrant country with hope and a future. In other words, the island of Cuba attracted people rather than driving its citizens away looking for a future.

 

It is really sad to watch Cuba today, from energy blackouts to importing sugar. Let me repeat: importing sugar. As a result, the young escape and look for a better life, preferably in the U.S. The old get stuck behind. 

 

As I saw yesterday, Cuba is on track to have the oldest population in Latin America.

 

It is even more painful when you realize that pre-Castro Cuba attracted thousands of immigrants from all over the world

 

To wither is to shrivel, fade, decay, or lose the freshness of youth. Cuba is indeed withering today.

 

So another January to remember the tragedy of Cuba and how much longer it will go on.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/01/another_january_to_remember_cuba.html

 

 

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20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

But what would he know ?

 

Another January to remember Cuba

American Thinker, by Sylvia Canto Jr.

 

Cuba became an independent country in 1902. You can divide the island’s history into two periods: the pre-Castro years and the current regime’s period in power since 1959.

 

I was born in the last decade of pre-Castro Cuba. My story so typical of the other kids born in the 1950s. We were the grandchildren or great-grandchildren of immigrants from Spain or elsewhere.

 

Our ancestors came to Cuba because it was a prosperous island, an attractive place for Spaniards seeking a better life, for Jewish refugees from Europe, hardworking Asians, and others. 

 

It was a young and vibrant country with hope and a future. In other words, the island of Cuba attracted people rather than driving its citizens away looking for a future.

 

It is really sad to watch Cuba today, from energy blackouts to importing sugar. Let me repeat: importing sugar. As a result, the young escape and look for a better life, preferably in the U.S. The old get stuck behind. 

 

As I saw yesterday, Cuba is on track to have the oldest population in Latin America.

 

It is even more painful when you realize that pre-Castro Cuba attracted thousands of immigrants from all over the world

 

To wither is to shrivel, fade, decay, or lose the freshness of youth. Cuba is indeed withering today.

 

So another January to remember the tragedy of Cuba and how much longer it will go on.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/01/another_january_to_remember_cuba.html

 

 

They have problems, no doubt. But the pre Castro years were not good for many.  Very good for a few.  The mafia ran Havana  with all the decay that culture brings. Many of the early emigres after the revolution were tied in and lost everything. They and their descendants lost a great deal and have great resentment. So take all that bitching with a grain of salt. A Cuban American in the Miami airport was appalled that we were going there. She told us the government was starving all the people. I have seen a single malnourished Cuban or even a dog or cat and we actually went to a squatter community that the government ended up providing water and electricity for. To be fair, we saw a dog with mange there. 
 

Cuban history has many more than 2 historical periods. To say so is ridiculous.  As with most things, it’s nuanced and complicated. Very little is black or white. 

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12 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Greetings from Cuba, the first communist country I’ve ever visited. Firstly, it’s likely not going to be communist for long. The embargo and the easy access to green cards from the US for Cubans is taking its toll. 10% of the population has left in the last 3 years. Ask trump and Rubio about automatic green cards for Cubans. Seems antithetical to his proclaimed immigration policy but that’s how they roll. All that said, it’s a beautiful country with friendly people. I’ve yet to see an armed soldier or policeman. I’ve walked the streets at night both alone and with others with no problem. They’re low on oil getting almost all from Venezuela. Secondarily there’s garbage in the streets because the trucks have little gas. There are blackouts everyday for 1-3 hours for the same reason. Since we are with a university group, we met with several journalists and artists  They admitted censorship but not at the cost of imprisonment. Anti government material results in harassment and at worst, exile.  One of the artists painted the famous Obama sketch in light blue after his visit here. No problems for that. They were very hopeful til trump took over for him. We go to Jamaica every year. The standard of living seems much better in Cuba. So communism will likely fail here ( the journalists agree) but it hasn’t done badly compared to other Caribbean countries. Havana has a university for 60000 students that is free. Healthcare is free. 

maybe there’s a happy medium…

Typical Lib.  NOTHING the government provides is free.  NOTHING.  Somebody has to pay for it.  What a mess.  

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12 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Greetings from Cuba, the first communist country I’ve ever visited. Firstly, it’s likely not going to be communist for long. The embargo and the easy access to green cards from the US for Cubans is taking its toll. 10% of the population has left in the last 3 years. Ask trump and Rubio about automatic green cards for Cubans. Seems antithetical to his proclaimed immigration policy but that’s how they roll. All that said, it’s a beautiful country with friendly people. I’ve yet to see an armed soldier or policeman. I’ve walked the streets at night both alone and with others with no problem. They’re low on oil getting almost all from Venezuela. Secondarily there’s garbage in the streets because the trucks have little gas. There are blackouts everyday for 1-3 hours for the same reason. Since we are with a university group, we met with several journalists and artists  They admitted censorship but not at the cost of imprisonment. Anti government material results in harassment and at worst, exile.  One of the artists painted the famous Obama sketch in light blue after his visit here. No problems for that. They were very hopeful til trump took over for him. We go to Jamaica every year. The standard of living seems much better in Cuba. So communism will likely fail here ( the journalists agree) but it hasn’t done badly compared to other Caribbean countries. Havana has a university for 60000 students that is free. Healthcare is free. 

maybe there’s a happy medium…

You make it sound pretty good, what with the blackouts, censorship, gas shortages, accumulating garbage, and the threat or exile for complaining about blackouts, accumulating garbage, censorship, gas shortages, harassment and/or exile from the homeland. I'm not sure how you square the 'free' part of education and healthcare given the other concerns you've raised here.  Question--are the educators immune to threats of harassment and exile, or do they generally follow the directive of the government?  

 

 

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5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

They have problems, no doubt. But the pre Castro years were not good for many.  Very good for a few.  The mafia ran Havana  with all the decay that culture brings. Many of the early emigres after the revolution were tied in and lost everything. They and their descendants lost a great deal and have great resentment. So take all that bitching with a grain of salt. A Cuban American in the Miami airport was appalled that we were going there. She told us the government was starving all the people. I have seen a single malnourished Cuban or even a dog or cat and we actually went to a squatter community that the government ended up providing water and electricity for. To be fair, we saw a dog with mange there. 
 

Cuban history has many more than 2 historical periods. To say so is ridiculous.  As with most things, it’s nuanced and complicated. Very little is black or white. 

You can't seriously believe what you have just wrote? No one with an ounce of sense or intelligence doesn't realize since Castro took over  that Cuba has turned into a shell of what is was formerly. I will take the word of the Cubans I know whose relatives were murdered by the Castro regime, and just because Bautista was his version of bad does not mean Castro is not much worse 

 

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59 minutes ago, Albwan said:

Pathological liars.

I'd be more worried that she realized she could eat an apple through the other side of a chain link fence.  What a mess. 

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1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

What is the point of this?

It's shitlers idea. He wants to use the military to take back the Panama canal and Greenland. He may be closer to Hitler than anyone imagined! It's going to be a fun spectator sport. 

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50 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

It's shitlers idea. He wants to use the military to take back the Panama canal and Greenland. He may be closer to Hitler than anyone imagined! It's going to be a fun spectator sport. 

So you know think Thomas Jefferson and Hitler are the same? Dude you are so funny. 

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1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

So you know think Thomas Jefferson and Hitler are the same? Dude you are so funny. 

No. The gulf of America, now that funny. Canada part of the US? We are just getting started! I would shut up while is still behind if I was you. 

And anybody who gets in bed with Trump elimanets fact checkers. Meta elimanets fact checkers. You got to embrace the lies of you want to do budding with Trump. 

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On 1/6/2025 at 11:04 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You make it sound pretty good, what with the blackouts, censorship, gas shortages, accumulating garbage, and the threat or exile for complaining about blackouts, accumulating garbage, censorship, gas shortages, harassment and/or exile from the homeland. I'm not sure how you square the 'free' part of education and healthcare given the other concerns you've raised here.  Question--are the educators immune to threats of harassment and exile, or do they generally follow the directive of the government?  

 

 

Jamaica has the similar natural resources and similar land mass but is a democracy.  They also receive millions, if not billions from US tourists.   The luxury resorts there have heavy security and barbed wire. Cubans appear better educated, healthier and happier, at least the average person.  They do this with almost no US tourist dollars or trade.  The casas we stayed in had no security or barbed wire.  Ships that drop cargo into Cuba are banned from entering US ports for years.  Remove these obstacles and most of their problems go away.  We met journalist and artists, not educators.  They spoke freely and criticized openly.  The artists works were often socially provocative in regards to politics.

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11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Jamaica has the similar natural resources and similar land mass but is a democracy.  They also receive millions, if not billions from US tourists.   The luxury resorts there have heavy security and barbed wire. Cubans appear better educated, healthier and happier, at least the average person.  They do this with almost no US tourist dollars or trade.  The casas we stayed in had no security or barbed wire.  Ships that drop cargo into Cuba are banned from entering US ports for years.  Remove these obstacles and most of their problems go away.  We met journalist and artists, not educators.  They spoke freely and criticized openly.  The artists works were often socially provocative in regards to politics.

You said the other day that critics faced censorship, harassment and exile.   

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49 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You said the other day that critics faced censorship, harassment and exile.   

That was the journalist’s answer to my question on whether imprisonment resulted from criticizing the government. He said “no”. At worst would be that. There are many 3rd world democracies where that is the case.  Florida for example bans books…

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