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6 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

So you were talking out your @ss again. Kind of like roundy was doing earlier. 
 

Trump flooded the zone with polls to move the averages…true brilliance. Thank you for yet another gem. 

Again? Such a tough guy. 

 

The plot thickens. Or polls are just voodoo. YMMV.

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

Again? Such a tough guy. 

 

The plot thickens. Or polls are just voodoo. YMMV.

 

Truly embarrassing. Scary Larry. If you can point me to the part in that 53 second video where Trump admits to paying for polls to show he’s ahead, I will donate $100 to white guys for Kamala tonight. Did you really just use that as your proof that “the felon is flooding the zone with polls to move the averages”? Good lord. You truly are dull. 
 

Posted
45 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

Truly embarrassing. Scary Larry. If you can point me to the part in that 53 second video where Trump admits to paying for polls to show he’s ahead, I will donate $100 to white guys for Kamala tonight. Did you really just use that as your proof that “the felon is flooding the zone with polls to move the averages”? Good lord. You truly are dull. 
 

Trump actually said he has no use for internal polling, saying he pays some company half a million dollars and they don't tell him anything worthwhile.

(See! I watched it)

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Posted
1 hour ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

Truly embarrassing. Scary Larry. If you can point me to the part in that 53 second video where Trump admits to paying for polls to show he’s ahead, I will donate $100 to white guys for Kamala tonight. Did you really just use that as your proof that “the felon is flooding the zone with polls to move the averages”? Good lord. You truly are dull. 
 

1. It’s Trump talking in The video, it’s even queued up to the relevant part (which is exactly why I shared it, not the poster) it Was the first one I found, sorry you have so much trouble with clicking your mouse.
2. There are dozens of articles and videos about this topic as the google would show you if you weren’t such a lazy self righteous ass. 
3. The insults again and again, pathetic and sad.

4. As a matter of charity I have posted the google results below, if you can’t be bothered to read them (or skim as I did) that’s on you.
5. I realize you just like trolling for your knuckling dragging garbage friends on here, cool, I don’t kink shame.

6. I also realize that no answer will satisfy you, not my job any way, and that you’ll just deflect or nit pick or act a turd but here we are on the internet.


here is a YouTube video, I bet you could google the person referenced in it to learn even more. 

 

 

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Posted

This is why I still think Nate Silver is the best in the business. Not all polls are created equal! He weights the higher quality polls more heavily, and notes what he calls the "house bias" (R vs. D) of the various reputable polling operations. (The house bias doesn't mean the poll is bad; it just means that for whatever reason certain polls tend to consistently overrate one side or the other by a few points.) And, of course, he completely ignores trash polls.

 

And so he has Kamala leading in the popular vote by a slight margin, but Trump with a very slight edge (we're talking 54% to 46% chance or so, kind of like a football game where the spread is 1 point) in the electoral college.

 

Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

1. It’s Trump talking in The video, it’s even queued up to the relevant part (which is exactly why I shared it, not the poster) it Was the first one I found, sorry you have so much trouble with clicking your mouse.
2. There are dozens of articles and videos about this topic as the google would show you if you weren’t such a lazy self righteous ass. 
3. The insults again and again, pathetic and sad.

4. As a matter of charity I have posted the google results below, if you can’t be bothered to read them (or skim as I did) that’s on you.
5. I realize you just like trolling for your knuckling dragging garbage friends on here, cool, I don’t kink shame.

6. I also realize that no answer will satisfy you, not my job any way, and that you’ll just deflect or nit pick or act a turd but here we are on the internet.


here is a YouTube video, I bet you could google the person referenced in it to learn even more. 

 

 

Showing results for flooding the polls to change the average

 

2024 has fewer polls, but they are higher quality - ABC News

ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

https://abcnews.go.com › story

2 days ago — 538's Galen Druke and Nathaniel Rakich discuss how many voters are genuinely up for grabs in the 2024 presidential election. As Election Day ...

 

Republican Pollsters Are FLOODING the 2024 Election ...

YouTube · Let's Talk Elections

143.5K+ views · 2 weeks ago

Please subscribe! http://bit.ly/LetsTalkElections ▻ Please consider becoming a member on LTE! https://bit.ly/2MrXW2q ▻ Join my DISCORD ...

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110+ comments · 1 week ago

69 votes, 113 comments. 34K subscribers in the fivethirtyeight community. FiveThirtyEight delivers analysis of politics from campaign ...

 

CA 120: Understanding the polls

Capitol Weekly

https://capitolweekly.net › ca-120-understanding-the-polls

5 hours ago — Going into the final weekend of the 2024 General Election, the presidential contest appears to be in a dead heat. The changing of the Democratic ...

 

Are Republican pollsters “flooding the zone?”

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Reddit · r/fivethirtyeight

180+ comments · 2 weeks ago

176 votes, 188 comments. 34K subscribers in the fivethirtyeight community. FiveThirtyEight delivers analysis of politics from campaign ...

188 answers ·  Top answer: The fact is, the polling industry is teetering on the edge of being, in general, low-quality. It's ...

 

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https://www.messageboxnews.com › are-a-flood-of-gop...

Oct 17, 2024 — the Republicans are flooding the zone with junk polls to skew the pollingaverages and make it look like Trump is winning — or at least gaining ...

 

2024 Election: How The Times Calculates Polling Averages

The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com › article › election-polling-av...

Sep 3, 2024 — Why a weighted and adjusted poll average? Poll averages may sound simple, but even the simple ones face important challenges. Which polls should ...

 

Slow vote-counting, flip-flopping leads, careful certification ...

The Conversation

https://theconversation.com › slow-vote-counting-flip-fl...

9 hours ago — Take a deep breath: Having to wait for election results means the system is working as it should, with safeguards and double-checks.

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Which of those “links” details how Donald Trump is flooding the zone with polls to skew the averages? Answer - none of them. 

 

Unfortunately I took the time to read through your post. Even more unfortunately I looked into the kid behind the video you embedded as some sort of bizarre proof of your claim. Ethan Kelly - intern for Kamala Harris rapid response team. Really solid source. Can you provide a single credible source for “Donald Trump is flooding the zone to skew polling averages”? So far it’s been nothing but…wait for it…garbage. 
 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.


If it comes out to turnout, you gotta think the side that invested heavily in GOTV has the edge over the side that outsourced it to the man with the smallest face and the South African human trafficker. 

Posted
8 hours ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:


Which of those “links” details how Donald Trump is flooding the zone with polls to skew the averages? Answer - none of them. 

 

Unfortunately I took the time to read through your post. Even more unfortunately I looked into the kid behind the video you embedded as some sort of bizarre proof of your claim. Ethan Kelly - intern for Kamala Harris rapid response team. Really solid source. Can you provide a single credible source for “Donald Trump is flooding the zone to skew polling averages”? So far it’s been nothing but…wait for it…garbage. 
 

 

23 minutes between posts. 😉 (40 - 17 =23)

 

here is a YouTube video, I bet you could google the person referenced in it to learn even more.” Adam Carlson. Video is 15 minutes long. So that leaves 8 minutes to review the links and write your summary. (Hey everyone we have a savant among us)

 

so I’m sure you were pretty in depth. Okay so you’ll say how in depth was I, about the same. Great two uninformed internet fools yelling at each other. 
 

credible sources - I’ve been on here long enough with you to know there are none you deem credible so that’s a fools errand. 


you have a video of Trump saying he pays for junk polls (that you didn’t watch).

you have a video of a high percentage of junk polls showing up 

you have Nate silver saying it could move the numbers but I have secret sauce to fix that (who also is paid by JD’s patron) several others at those links say similar. 


do you have a source that shows they (he Mr pedantic) are not doing these things?

Do you have a source that shows RCP is accounting for all these biased polls? Weren’t they off on Hillary? By a lot, if memory serves.

 

As I have said on numerous occasions, polls are voodoo, and they can be manipulated and manufactured (who is polled, how the questions are phrased, number of polls run, etc). 

 

If you want to have a discussion cool, but seriously get off your high horse.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

you have a video of Trump saying he pays for junk polls (that you didn’t watch).

If you believe he said that in the clip you posted, you are the one that didn’t watch.
 

You’ve made a specious claim that simply isn’t true. Nice work. 

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2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

This is political stupidity. He is in New York campaigning for Brandon Williams representative of Syracuse area. The Chips Act is what brought Micron to Syracuse. When Micron is built out, it will be a gigantic chip manufacturing center providing thousands of jobs. He announces he wants to cancel it. I’m sure Brandon Williams appreciates his honesty. 

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Posted
On 10/30/2024 at 9:23 PM, Starr-Bills said:

Again? Such a tough guy. 

 

The plot thickens. Or polls are just voodoo. YMMV.

 

Did you mean to cut to Trump saying he does not believe in the validity of the polls? He definitely said he pays for them but doubts how accurate they are, your special if you believe he said he pays for them to come out a certain way.

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