leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: Laws are good and should be enforced. That said, the root cause of this is building more housing. I think about experiments in government mandated/assigned housing in foreign lands…places like the USSR. Is that the solution to today’s crisis—government built complexes, communal living, with x amount of space designated to individuals/families? An improvement on that model? Personally, I think the root cause of the problem is a failure of the government to govern pretty much across the board.
Roundybout Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 47 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Building more houses does not happen because of liberalism. The gangs happen because of liberalism. The illegals happen because of liberalism. But you continue to vote liberal and complain that conservatives don't fix what you mess up. NIMBYism is across the political spectrum. I don't know why you're whining about "illegals" in England since the psychopath who stabbed the kids was a British citizen. If you want to have a good faith talk about integrating second-gen immigrants, a definite real problem, then I'm all ears. 8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think about experiments in government mandated/assigned housing in foreign lands…places like the USSR. Is that the solution to today’s crisis—government built complexes, communal living, with x amount of space designated to individuals/families? An improvement on that model? Personally, I think the root cause of the problem is a failure of the government to govern pretty much across the board. Possibly. I'm not a huge fan of government housing since it's a slippery slope policy to "let's take the poor and shove them somewhere else," and it creates de facto ghettos. Same problem that rent control has, which I'm very opposed to. The root cause of the housing crisis, IMO, are outdated restrictions on new construction.
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: NIMBYism is across the political spectrum. I don't know why you're whining about "illegals" in England since the psychopath who stabbed the kids was a British citizen. If you want to have a good faith talk about integrating second-gen immigrants, a definite real problem, then I'm all ears. I like that you offer no solutions to the problems your side creates. Secondly nothing Iisted is a NIMBY problem unless you think the entire country is my backyard. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: NIMBYism is across the political spectrum. I don't know why you're whining about "illegals" in England since the psychopath who stabbed the kids was a British citizen. If you want to have a good faith talk about integrating second-gen immigrants, a definite real problem, then I'm all ears. Possibly. I'm not a huge fan of government housing since it's a slippery slope policy to "let's take the poor and shove them somewhere else," and it creates de facto ghettos. Same problem that rent control has, which I'm very opposed to. The root cause of the housing crisis, IMO, are outdated restrictions on new construction. I keep asking because I’m interested in what a person in your field might see as the future. I’m not interested personally, because what seems to be offered isn’t anything I would like. What bothers me here is the “possibly” part of your post. I’m hard-pressed to find a government mandated housing scenario that values quality over economy, freedom of choice over mandated choices, and the ultimate reality that the govt ultimately chooses winners/losers as in any other system. Plus, all that f@rt dust blowing through the vents on the top floors of these communes has to be overwhelming. Hard pass for me.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 9 hours ago, Roundybout said: Laws are good and should be enforced. That said, the root cause of this is building more housing. The neighborhoods they live in currently are run down and dilapidated, but let's give them more? They don't take care of their neighborhoods as is.
Roundybout Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I keep asking because I’m interested in what a person in your field might see as the future. I’m not interested personally, because what seems to be offered isn’t anything I would like. What bothers me here is the “possibly” part of your post. I’m hard-pressed to find a government mandated housing scenario that values quality over economy, freedom of choice over mandated choices, and the ultimate reality that the govt ultimately chooses winners/losers as in any other system. Plus, all that f@rt dust blowing through the vents on the top floors of these communes has to be overwhelming. Hard pass for me. I do agree with the second half of your post. I think, for the average lower-class working Joe, I'd like to see a mass increase of supply and then some kind of government voucher system to aid in affordability. This preserves the freedom to choose and move and doesn't lock the poor into Le Corbusier-style towers. I said "possibly" because I believe there are still going to be a group of people that needs government-built housing, mostly the mentally ill/those who cannot live on their own and don't really have the agency to go through the home-buying process. I prefer this to nonprofits because government agencies can be held accountable easier than vague boards of directors. Plus, in my experience, non-profits are difficult to work with and are often poorly run. In an ideal world, we'd increase the supply so much that prices relax naturally and the voucher system is not needed. In the urban planner world, we're experimenting in a few different cities with different ideas like converting vacant storefronts to housing. Office buildings seem like a great idea, but the problem there is that the infrastructure is simply not there for 200 new families and all their basic needs. It's bonkers expensive.
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 90 hours of work for $1000 is below minimum wage on FL, and that is the minimal hours. How does a guy who speaks so poorly of business owners do this?
Roundybout Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 Reminder for all the fine people here that worship EndWokeness (aka known neonazi Jack Posibiec), that he’s often wrong and is getting a lot of innocent people in danger.
Starr-Bills Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 On 8/3/2024 at 11:57 PM, Roundybout said: Laws are good and should be enforced. That said, the root cause of this is building more housing. And social programs in general, education funding, jobs programs and grants for employers help. So would a living minimum wage and single payer health care. I mean let's get to the root of the problem, not taxing billionaires enough so that government of the people works for the people.
B-Man Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 Well it is easy to see what today's DNC instructions to the lemmings was. 1) Keep attacking the obvious Tim Walz stolen valor story. Use plenty of whataboutism. 2) Keep repeating the made up fairy tale about JD Vance.
Doc Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 On 8/7/2024 at 10:41 AM, BillsFanNC said: But not roundy! It’s David Hogg, so…
B-Man Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 (I post this knowing full well that the truth does not matter to the simpletons here, posting a sex with a couch story is too appealing to their juvenile sides ) Well, since the PPP buffoons insist on some sort of response to their repeating of a lie here it is. J.D. Vance Gives Off Couch Sex Vibes, Says Man Who Started Joke The swirling clouds of internet mayhem have parted, and the user behind the rumor that J.D. Vance once got sexual with a sectional has finally broken his silence. In an interview with Business Insider, “Rick,” or @rickrudescalves (he’s since changed his username for privacy), explained why exactly he was inspired to invent a semi-believable lie that Donald Trump’s running mate had made love to a loveseat. The day that Trump announced that Vance would be joining his ticket, Rick tweeted, “can’t say for sure but he might be the first vp pick to have admitted in a ny times bestseller to ***** an Inside-out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions (vance, hillbilly elegy, pp. 179-181).” The story? A work of fiction by a disappointed guy from a working-class background. Rick, a desk worker who said he had a similar upbringing to that which Vance described in his bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, said he regarded the Ohio senator from “a place of irreverence if not outright disrespect.” The page numbers? Plucked from thin air. Rick was referring to authors such as Jorge Luis Borges and John Fowles, who cooked up phony citations to lend literary credibility to their fictional works. “It’s something I’ve found funny my entire life,” Rick said. Rick’s reasoning for this particular fabrication? He was inspired by Hunter S. Thompson’s anecdote in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72 about former President Lyndon Johnson starting a rumor that his opponent had sex with his livestock. When the rumor took off, Rick was surprised and a little overwhelmed. He hid the post within a week, but by then, the idea had already spread like wildfire, with news organizations rushing to fact-check and then subsequently backing off. https://newrepublic.com/post/184418/man-creator-jd-vance-couch-sex-explains Some might stop me at this point to note that everybody knows that J. D. Vance didn’t have sex with a couch. It’s a joke; a social media meme, started when someone posted a parody, allegedly from Vance’s memoir Hillbilly Elegy. These people know, however, that most people don’t follow the genealogy of memes back to their origins. Many people just start to think, “J. D. Vance is sort of a freak; people say he did something with a couch one time.” The Vance couch meme-posters can have it both ways. They can kind of do what the Bible describes as deceiving one’s neighbor and then say, “I was only joking!” (Prov. 26:19). Beyond that, they can say, “Well, of course, Vance did not literally have sex with a couch. The point is that Vance is kind of weird; the couch just makes the point.” https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/august-web-only/lie-truth-jd-vance-couch-russell-moore.html .
Doc Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 23 minutes ago, B-Man said: (I post this knowing full well that the truth does not matter to the simpletons here, posting a sex with a couch story is too appealing to their juvenile sides ) Well, since the PPP buffoons insist on some sort of response to their repeating of a lie here it is. J.D. Vance Gives Off Couch Sex Vibes, Says Man Who Started Joke The swirling clouds of internet mayhem have parted, and the user behind the rumor that J.D. Vance once got sexual with a sectional has finally broken his silence. In an interview with Business Insider, “Rick,” or @rickrudescalves (he’s since changed his username for privacy), explained why exactly he was inspired to invent a semi-believable lie that Donald Trump’s running mate had made love to a loveseat. The day that Trump announced that Vance would be joining his ticket, Rick tweeted, “can’t say for sure but he might be the first vp pick to have admitted in a ny times bestseller to ***** an Inside-out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions (vance, hillbilly elegy, pp. 179-181).” The story? A work of fiction by a disappointed guy from a working-class background. Rick, a desk worker who said he had a similar upbringing to that which Vance described in his bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, said he regarded the Ohio senator from “a place of irreverence if not outright disrespect.” The page numbers? Plucked from thin air. Rick was referring to authors such as Jorge Luis Borges and John Fowles, who cooked up phony citations to lend literary credibility to their fictional works. “It’s something I’ve found funny my entire life,” Rick said. Rick’s reasoning for this particular fabrication? He was inspired by Hunter S. Thompson’s anecdote in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail ’72 about former President Lyndon Johnson starting a rumor that his opponent had sex with his livestock. When the rumor took off, Rick was surprised and a little overwhelmed. He hid the post within a week, but by then, the idea had already spread like wildfire, with news organizations rushing to fact-check and then subsequently backing off. https://newrepublic.com/post/184418/man-creator-jd-vance-couch-sex-explains Some might stop me at this point to note that everybody knows that J. D. Vance didn’t have sex with a couch. It’s a joke; a social media meme, started when someone posted a parody, allegedly from Vance’s memoir Hillbilly Elegy. These people know, however, that most people don’t follow the genealogy of memes back to their origins. Many people just start to think, “J. D. Vance is sort of a freak; people say he did something with a couch one time.” The Vance couch meme-posters can have it both ways. They can kind of do what the Bible describes as deceiving one’s neighbor and then say, “I was only joking!” (Prov. 26:19). Beyond that, they can say, “Well, of course, Vance did not literally have sex with a couch. The point is that Vance is kind of weird; the couch just makes the point.” https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/august-web-only/lie-truth-jd-vance-couch-russell-moore.html Just push the horse ***** story. Fight fire with fire. 1 1
SCBills Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 Honestly, this is a perfect summation. One I’d imagine both sides can agree on, probably for different reasons, but nonetheless.. 1
Roundybout Posted August 9, 2024 Posted August 9, 2024 3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: Someone got cought cheating Nice job posting fake AI pictures! 1
K D Posted August 9, 2024 Posted August 9, 2024 On 8/7/2024 at 10:41 AM, BillsFanNC said: But not roundy! David Hogg is such a sissy. Do we have any beta males here who don't know how to put on a spare wheel?
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