Random Political Thoughts Inc.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Just now, Roundybout said:

Good thing they’re not changing the law, they’re providing aid. Charity is not illegal. 

 

Not going down this road again with you. 

It is if the people your giving charity to are there illegally.

[Roundybout]

Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

It is if the people your giving charity to are there illegally.

Thanks for consistently proving my point that the MAGA Christian nationalist front is a complete facade! 

[The Frankish Reich]

29 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Are they there illegally? Kinda answered your own question huh?

I'm Serious Frank this morning. B-Man shamed me into it.

 

Serious answer: charity (taking new border crossers in, feeding them, giving them food and shelter) is not and should never be a crime. We depend on charitable organizations in this country, and they should be honored for their service.

 

There are churches and other organizations that go beyond that and actually try to conceal people they are sheltering from law enforcement. That is a different matter, and these organizations - even if well-meaning - are participants in a violation of the law.

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm Serious Frank this morning. B-Man shamed me into it.

 

Serious answer: charity (taking new border crossers in, feeding them, giving them food and shelter) is not and should never be a crime. We depend on charitable organizations in this country, and they should be honored for their service.

 

There are churches and other organizations that go beyond that and actually try to conceal people they are sheltering from law enforcement. That is a different matter, and these organizations - even if well-meaning - are participants in a violation of the law.

 

Frank the people receiving charity shouldn't be there according to the law. What is so hard to understand?

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Frank the people receiving charity shouldn't be there according to the law. What is so hard to understand?

The answer is some people have things like “morals.” You should try it sometime. 

[JDHillFan]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Not going down this road again with you. 

It can’t be squared. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Just now, Roundybout said:

The answer is some people have things like “morals.” You should try it sometime. 

Haha says the guy championing transitioning kids lecturing me about morals. Laws over feelings.

[sherpa]

Charity should not be suicide.

It is Christian and honorable to take care of people who are in immediate need.

 

It is as important to demand that the countries they live in are responsible enough to not force them to emigrate.

 

It is not sustainable or desirable to allow an escape path for a failed government.

 

These things need to be fixed internally.

 

[JDHillFan]

8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

The answer is some people have things like “morals.” You should try it sometime. 

“Hey troubled person - that surgery you are thinking about has a greatly increased suicide risk associated with it. As a moral man/woman, I think you should absolutely do it”

 

-you

 

Some awareness on occasion, please

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

“Hey troubled person - that surgery you are thinking about has a greatly increased suicide risk associated with it. As a moral man/woman, I think you should absolutely do it”

 

-you

 

Some awareness on occasion, please

Im not doing this. I’ve explained why that is, and you’re either too dense to get it, or you choose not to. It’s pointless. 

[Pokebball]

16 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm Serious Frank this morning. B-Man shamed me into it.

 

Serious answer: charity (taking new border crossers in, feeding them, giving them food and shelter) is not and should never be a crime. We depend on charitable organizations in this country, and they should be honored for their service.

 

There are churches and other organizations that go beyond that and actually try to conceal people they are sheltering from law enforcement. That is a different matter, and these organizations - even if well-meaning - are participants in a violation of the law.

 

Is it a crime though?

[JDHillFan]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Im not doing this. I’ve explained why that is, and you’re either too dense to get it, or you choose not to. It’s pointless. 

Your point is it’s because other people are unaccepting. I can agree with that in part. It doesn’t change the attempted suicide rate does it? Perhaps as a “moral” person you should encourage avenues that don’t have such a strong association with suicide. 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

Your point is it’s because other people are unaccepting. I can agree with that in part. It doesn’t change the attempted suicide rate does it? Perhaps as a “moral” person you should encourage avenues that don’t have such a strong association with suicide. 

Such as?

[JDHillFan]

Just now, Roundybout said:

Such as?

Therapy perhaps? Intensive, extensive therapy. Anything short of permanently altering bodies, being rejected by society, and subsequently being 12-13x more likely to attempt suicide. Is this really that difficult for you to comprehend?
 

Hard to believe a moral person like yourself is so willing to send others into that sort of grinder. Sad. 

[The Frankish Reich]

16 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Is it a crime though?

As with all such things: it depends.

In general, "harboring" an illegal alien is a crime. I don't think a prosecution would ever be brought against an agency that offers shelter to new (illegal) immigrants who'd otherwise be on the street. In fact, the border patrol will often turn over new entrants to agencies like this, so it would be absurd to think they could be prosecuted for harboring.

I think the key is, again, whether they are trying to conceal the illegal immigrants, or trying to frustrate law enforcement's attempts to take a particular action, like bringing someone into ICE custody.

[Pokebball]

12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

As with all such things: it depends.

In general, "harboring" an illegal alien is a crime. I don't think a prosecution would ever be brought against an agency that offers shelter to new (illegal) immigrants who'd otherwise be on the street. In fact, the border patrol will often turn over new entrants to agencies like this, so it would be absurd to think they could be prosecuted for harboring.

I think the key is, again, whether they are trying to conceal the illegal immigrants, or trying to frustrate law enforcement's attempts to take a particular action, like bringing someone into ICE custody.

Is this law a good law, was probably more my question. My point is that rather than not enforcing a law, maybe we should work towards changing those laws.

 

It's silly to have laws and willy nilly not follow of them became somebody, somewhere, doesn't agree with them. We wouldn't have any law if that were the case. 

[ChiGoose]

Good opportunity to help kids, make it easier for people to have kids, and pass a bipartisan bill that soared through the House 357-70.

 

Let’s see how the “pro-family” GOP came out for it:

 

[4th&long]

 

[Roundybout]

30 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

 

This explains a lot about the average Trump voter to be honest 

[Tommy Callahan]

Lol