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[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

splain...convicted by a jury of his peers.

 

What parts of this piece do u disagree with, specifically?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/us/derek-chauvin-trial-jury.html

Zero chance he was ever going to not take the fall for the racial justice movement in that moment. 
 

George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose, and we all know this .. even the jury … even you. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Zero chance he was ever going to not take the fall for the racial justice movement in that moment. 
 

George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose, and we all know this .. even the jury … even you. 

he died from asphyxiation.  r u a pathologist?  coroner?  the jury nor I know nothing of the sort....

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/no-change-in-george-floyds-cause-of-death-despite-viral-false-claims/

 

The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicideand determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”

This finding was highlighted in the first set of charges leveled against Chauvin in May 2020 and was explained in detail by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, during Chauvin’s trial.

“The top line of the cause of death is really what you think is the most important thing that precipitated the death. Other things that you think played a role in the death but were not direct causes get relegated to what’s known as the ‘other significant conditions’ part of the death certificate,” Baker said at the trial, explaining why Floyd’s other health conditions weren’t included in his cause of death.

“So, the other significant conditions are things that played a role in the death, but didn’t directly cause the death,” Baker said. “So, for example, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck restraint; his heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.”

 

now you show me the evidence for your case on fentanyl overdose....

Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Orlando Buffalo]

6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

because you seem so adept at seeing in shades of gray🤣 and issues of relativity.

Like with Ukraine where I recognize it is a corrupt country, with no national security interest but recognize they are better than the Russians? Curious if you now support Biden using the young of Ukraine to fight  what has always been an  unwinnable war?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

no national security interest

you're kidding, right?  that statement seems pretty black and white with no gray yet the conflict truly is gray....

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

he died from asphyxiation.  r u a pathologist?  coroner?  the jury nor I know nothing of the sort....

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/no-change-in-george-floyds-cause-of-death-despite-viral-false-claims/

 

The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicideand determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”

This finding was highlighted in the first set of charges leveled against Chauvin in May 2020 and was explained in detail by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, during Chauvin’s trial.

“The top line of the cause of death is really what you think is the most important thing that precipitated the death. Other things that you think played a role in the death but were not direct causes get relegated to what’s known as the ‘other significant conditions’ part of the death certificate,” Baker said at the trial, explaining why Floyd’s other health conditions weren’t included in his cause of death.

“So, the other significant conditions are things that played a role in the death, but didn’t directly cause the death,” Baker said. “So, for example, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck restraint; his heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.”

 

now you show me the evidence for your case on fentanyl overdose....

You don’t need to watch the film, but this article outlines quite a bit that went on to make sure this would be Chauvin’s fate.  
 

A sacrifice to the mob… those like you.  
 

Go ahead, cheer, you’ve got your pound of flesh. 
 

https://nypost.com/2023/11/20/opinion/real-truth-aid-the-floyd-lies/amp/

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you're kidding, right?  that statement seems pretty black and white with no gray yet the conflict truly is gray....

What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland?

yes, given the opportunity he clearly would.

 

 

Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

 

Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room....

Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Orlando Buffalo]

12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, given the opportunity he clearly would.

 

 

Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

 

Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room....

You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. 

everyone is nuts but crazy MAGA's...relativity.

 

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Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power

?  along with RUSSIA and ole Tuck

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for "

along w Russia and ole Tuck....and?

[Orlando Buffalo]

23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

along w Russia and ole Tuck....and?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-47571043.amp

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/17/the-corrupt-shall-inherit-ukraine/

 

https://carnegieendowment.org/2014/05/16/how-corruption-guts-militaries-ukraine-case-study-pub-55635

 

None of these are new articles but they cover from before Trump through 2019. How did you not know that Ukraine is corrupt? It has been discussed for decades and it is part of the reason that in 2014 we did not react more harshly to the Crimea. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

18 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-47571043.amp

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/17/the-corrupt-shall-inherit-ukraine/

 

https://carnegieendowment.org/2014/05/16/how-corruption-guts-militaries-ukraine-case-study-pub-55635

 

None of these are new articles but they cover from before Trump through 2019. How did you not know that Ukraine is corrupt? It has been discussed for decades and it is part of the reason that in 2014 we did not react more harshly to the Crimea. 

corrupt does not equal nonstrategic....

Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Orlando Buffalo]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

corrupt does not equal nonstrategic....

Agreed but that is what you were arguing at the time, so how is it strategic? To believe that Putin will attack a NATO country at this point is crazy since his military is decimated in both personnel and materials. Since May of 2022 at the latest it has been apparent this was gonna be a long slog kind of war, why not make a peace plan at that time? Why chew up so much material and personnel on both sides? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

Agreed but that is what you were arguing at the time, so how is it strategic? To believe that Putin will attack a NATO country at this point is crazy since his military is decimated in both personnel and materials. Since May of 2022 at the latest it has been apparent this was gonna be a long slog kind of war, why not make a peace plan at that time? Why chew up so much material and personnel on both sides? 

his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it.  well done fellas

 

ya think Russia is strategic?  Ukraine was gonna become Russia.

Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[sherpa]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it. 

 

Not true.

His military is not decimated, and the Russian economy has gone full speed war posture, producing far more than they were a year ago, which does not argue well for the outcome.

 

Ukraine has to do a bit better than status quo this winter.

Otherwise they will be overwhelmed.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

and the Russian economy has gone full speed

What were US tax rates during WW2?

 

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What were US tax rates during WW2?

 

 

I don't do homework.

The fact is that the Russian industrial economy has adjusted to full speed wartime production.

They are committed to winning this thing, at any cost.

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it.  well done fellas

 

ya think Russia is strategic?  Ukraine was gonna become Russia.

So Ukrainian young men are of equal value to the destruction of the Russia materials? That is a thought I have not heard before in regards to the Ukraine.

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What were US tax rates during WW2?

 

What does this have to do with the current situation? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

55 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

What does this have to do with the current situation? 

Russians are destroying their economy to wage an unlawful war.  we ravaged ours for a just war against Nazi's and Japanese terrorists.

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

I don't do homework.

lazy will do:

 

To help finance the war, U.S. income taxes were raised to the highest levels in history. For 1944 and 1945, income amounts above $200,000 — about $3.3 million in today's dollars — were taxed at an astounding marginal tax rate of 94%! After the war, that top rate was brought down to 91%.