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On 11/15/2023 at 10:31 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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Science doesn't give a F@#k what you believe, Nurse Hatchet

27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

The comments are about what you would expect from leftist juveniles 

 

 

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WWMD = what would MAGAs do/say if he was a black man arrested for killing a white man and was stabbed in prison?  think you're a  better human?  Think again.

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I have noticed something odd over the past few years with my students, and even my son to a lesser extent. They are getting better at seeing obvious lies from politicians but they often immediately go to the thought that the opposite must be true, a very binary thought process. One of the topics that has come up is Ukraine, which since each side lies so much the kids argue by just pointing out each lie. I have had to shut it down several times and keep trying to get kids to see more nuance. 

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Just now, Orlando Tim said:

I have noticed something odd over the past few years with my students, and even my son to a lesser extent. They are getting better at seeing obvious lies from politicians but they often immediately go to the thought that the opposite must be true, a very binary thought process. One of the topics that has come up is Ukraine, which since each side lies so much the kids argue by just pointing out each lie. I have had to shut it down several times and keep trying to get kids to see more nuance. 

because you seem so adept at seeing in shades of gray🤣 and issues of relativity.

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3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

splain...convicted by a jury of his peers.

 

What parts of this piece do u disagree with, specifically?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/us/derek-chauvin-trial-jury.html


Zero chance he was ever going to not take the fall for the racial justice movement in that moment. 
 

George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose, and we all know this .. even the jury … even you. 

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5 minutes ago, SCBills said:


Zero chance he was ever going to not take the fall for the racial justice movement in that moment. 
 

George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose, and we all know this .. even the jury … even you. 

he died from asphyxiation.  r u a pathologist?  coroner?  the jury nor I know nothing of the sort....

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/no-change-in-george-floyds-cause-of-death-despite-viral-false-claims/

 

The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicideand determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”

This finding was highlighted in the first set of charges leveled against Chauvin in May 2020 and was explained in detail by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, during Chauvin’s trial.

“The top line of the cause of death is really what you think is the most important thing that precipitated the death. Other things that you think played a role in the death but were not direct causes get relegated to what’s known as the ‘other significant conditions’ part of the death certificate,” Baker said at the trial, explaining why Floyd’s other health conditions weren’t included in his cause of death.

“So, the other significant conditions are things that played a role in the death, but didn’t directly cause the death,” Baker said. “So, for example, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck restraint; his heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.”

 

now you show me the evidence for your case on fentanyl overdose....

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6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

because you seem so adept at seeing in shades of gray🤣 and issues of relativity.

Like with Ukraine where I recognize it is a corrupt country, with no national security interest but recognize they are better than the Russians? Curious if you now support Biden using the young of Ukraine to fight  what has always been an  unwinnable war?

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10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

he died from asphyxiation.  r u a pathologist?  coroner?  the jury nor I know nothing of the sort....

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/no-change-in-george-floyds-cause-of-death-despite-viral-false-claims/

 

The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicideand determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”

This finding was highlighted in the first set of charges leveled against Chauvin in May 2020 and was explained in detail by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, during Chauvin’s trial.

“The top line of the cause of death is really what you think is the most important thing that precipitated the death. Other things that you think played a role in the death but were not direct causes get relegated to what’s known as the ‘other significant conditions’ part of the death certificate,” Baker said at the trial, explaining why Floyd’s other health conditions weren’t included in his cause of death.

“So, the other significant conditions are things that played a role in the death, but didn’t directly cause the death,” Baker said. “So, for example, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck restraint; his heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.”

 

now you show me the evidence for your case on fentanyl overdose....


You don’t need to watch the film, but this article outlines quite a bit that went on to make sure this would be Chauvin’s fate.  
 

A sacrifice to the mob… those like you.  
 

Go ahead, cheer, you’ve got your pound of flesh. 
 

https://nypost.com/2023/11/20/opinion/real-truth-aid-the-floyd-lies/amp/

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Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

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3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you're kidding, right?  that statement seems pretty black and white with no gray yet the conflict truly is gray....

What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland?

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8 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland?

yes, given the opportunity he clearly would.

 

 

Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

 

Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room....

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12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, given the opportunity he clearly would.

 

 

Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power?

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

 

Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room....

You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. 

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8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. 

everyone is nuts but crazy MAGA's...relativity.

 

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Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power

?  along with RUSSIA and ole Tuck

 

Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia

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