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50 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/houston-texas-news/content/2023-08-25-biden-giving-illegals-2200-per-month-welfare-only-1400-to-us-retirees/

 

Biden Giving Illegals $2,200 Per Month Welfare, Only $1,400 to US Retirees

 

According to a release by the legal immigration group 'ALIPAC', the Biden administration is giving illegal aliens payments of $2,200 per month, compared to just $1,400 for U.S. retirees.

"The Biden-Harris administration is giving more money to illegal immigrant invaders, than to our own U.S. citizens" said William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, "Once a person understands that, then that person will always be on our side of the illegal immigration debate, which is very simple. Keep them all out, send them all home."

Which sadly has not been happening at all since Biden took office.

 

 

Here's news that will gladden the hearts of the useful idiots on this board. 

 

Un-*****-believeable.  

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51 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/houston-texas-news/content/2023-08-25-biden-giving-illegals-2200-per-month-welfare-only-1400-to-us-retirees/

 

Biden Giving Illegals $2,200 Per Month Welfare, Only $1,400 to US Retirees

 

According to a release by the legal immigration group 'ALIPAC', the Biden administration is giving illegal aliens payments of $2,200 per month, compared to just $1,400 for U.S. retirees.

"The Biden-Harris administration is giving more money to illegal immigrant invaders, than to our own U.S. citizens" said William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, "Once a person understands that, then that person will always be on our side of the illegal immigration debate, which is very simple. Keep them all out, send them all home."

Which sadly has not been happening at all since Biden took office.

 

 

Here's news that will gladden the hearts of the useful idiots on this board. 

Not only is that a smack in the fact to us.  

 

It again points out the current assylum packages is more than the median income in most of south America.  

 

That's the pull.  

 

Can't ignore all the ngo and sponsor groups making bank off this as well 

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2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

According to a release by the legal immigration group 'ALIPAC', the Biden administration is giving illegal aliens payments of $2,200 per month

This statement is just flat-out wrong. I tried to trace where it came from. It comes from a forum (thing TBD) post from an anti-immigration group, which in turn references what looks like an old Tucker Carlson interview (it has the Daily Caller imprint, which I think is Tucker's old operation) with some guy not identified in the clip simply stating this, without a source.

 

It is not true. Illegal entrants do not get any sort of payment. I know people who work in this field and I can assure you there are no such payments. 

 

Is it simply made up? Is the source mixing up people accorded refugee status abroad who are legally admitted to the United States as refugees? They may qualify for some assistance, but that is a very different group (including things such as Afghan interpreters for the U.S. military who risk retribution from the Taliban) than those coming across the border illegally.

 

It is quite literally fake news. People should double-check these things before posting and reposting. If you have an actual source refuting what I just said, please find it and post it here. Spoiler alert: there is no such source.

2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Here's news that will gladden the hearts of the useful idiots on this board. 

Don't be a sucker for internet lies.

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11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This statement is just flat-out wrong. I tried to trace where it came from. It comes from a forum (thing TBD) post from an anti-immigration group, which in turn references what looks like an old Tucker Carlson interview (it has the Daily Caller imprint, which I think is Tucker's old operation) with some guy not identified in the clip simply stating this, without a source.

 

It is not true. Illegal entrants do not get any sort of payment. I know people who work in this field and I can assure you there are no such payments. 

 

Is it simply made up? Is the source mixing up people accorded refugee status abroad who are legally admitted to the United States as refugees? They may qualify for some assistance, but that is a very different group (including things such as Afghan interpreters for the U.S. military who risk retribution from the Taliban) than those coming across the border illegally.

 

It is quite literally fake news. People should double-check these things before posting and reposting. If you have an actual source refuting what I just said, please find it and post it here. Spoiler alert: there is no such source.

Don't be a sucker for internet lies.

Thanks for the fact check. 

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15 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This statement is just flat-out wrong. I tried to trace where it came from. It comes from a forum (thing TBD) post from an anti-immigration group, which in turn references what looks like an old Tucker Carlson interview (it has the Daily Caller imprint, which I think is Tucker's old operation) with some guy not identified in the clip simply stating this, without a source.

 

It is not true. Illegal entrants do not get any sort of payment. I know people who work in this field and I can assure you there are no such payments. 

 

Is it simply made up? Is the source mixing up people accorded refugee status abroad who are legally admitted to the United States as refugees? They may qualify for some assistance, but that is a very different group (including things such as Afghan interpreters for the U.S. military who risk retribution from the Taliban) than those coming across the border illegally.

 

It is quite literally fake news. People should double-check these things before posting and reposting. If you have an actual source refuting what I just said, please find it and post it here. Spoiler alert: there is no such source.

 

So illegals aren't getting any money?  They're just out there fending for themselves?

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11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

So illegals aren't getting any money?  They're just out there fending for themselves?

And yet its costing Federal, State, and local governments billions and billions to support the influx of "asylum seekers".  Its magic!

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26 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This statement is just flat-out wrong. I tried to trace where it came from. It comes from a forum (thing TBD) post from an anti-immigration group, which in turn references what looks like an old Tucker Carlson interview (it has the Daily Caller imprint, which I think is Tucker's old operation) with some guy not identified in the clip simply stating this, without a source.

 

It is not true. Illegal entrants do not get any sort of payment. I know people who work in this field and I can assure you there are no such payments. 

 

Is it simply made up? Is the source mixing up people accorded refugee status abroad who are legally admitted to the United States as refugees? They may qualify for some assistance, but that is a very different group (including things such as Afghan interpreters for the U.S. military who risk retribution from the Taliban) than those coming across the border illegally.

 

It is quite literally fake news. People should double-check these things before posting and reposting. If you have an actual source refuting what I just said, please find it and post it here. Spoiler alert: there is no such source.

Don't be a sucker for internet lies.

I don't know if the $2,200 is true. I simply can't believe what I bolded above to be true either.

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9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

 

I am but a rube. Would one of the leftist board members be kind enough to educate me on what “San Francisco values” are and how we might recognize them in, uhhh, San Francisco?

 

Her missive makes no sense.

The most gifted and beautiful city in the US is in shambles, and she can't craft a logical statement.

So glad we left in '90.

 

That aside, it is a near impossibility to ever have her lose an election in that district.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

So illegals aren't getting any money?  They're just out there fending for themselves?

 

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

And yet its costing Federal, State, and local governments billions and billions to support the influx of "asylum seekers".  Its magic!

I don't know what states and cities may be doing. I know where I live it is costing the city money to provide temporary shelter, etc. 

I am refuting one specific untruth: the federal government is NOT giving  illegal aliens $2,200 in cash per month. That was a very specific claim, and it is flat-out wrong. There's no source cited for that (because there is none), so I have to assume this guy just made it up.

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31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

I don't know what states and cities may be doing. I know where I live it is costing the city money to provide temporary shelter, etc. 

I am refuting one specific untruth: the federal government is NOT giving  illegal aliens $2,200 in cash per month. That was a very specific claim, and it is flat-out wrong. There's no source cited for that (because there is none), so I have to assume this guy just made it up.

 

What's the number, Frankish?

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Don't want it coming out of my pocket.

 

“President Biden continues to propose budget-busting student loan bailouts that would force 87 percent of Americans who do not have student loan debt to bear the costs of the 13 percent of Americans who do,” Thune said in a statement this week. “It’s incredibly unfair to those who never incurred student debt because they didn’t attend college in the first place or because they either worked their way through school or their family pinched pennies and planned for higher education.” 

 

“Our resolution protects the 87 percent of Americans who don’t have student debt and will be forced to shoulder the burden of the President’s irresponsible and unfair policy,” Cassidy added. 

 

https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/08/gop-senators-move-to-block-biden-student-loan-plan

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2 hours ago, T&C said:

Don't want it coming out of my pocket.

 

“President Biden continues to propose budget-busting student loan bailouts that would force 87 percent of Americans who do not have student loan debt to bear the costs of the 13 percent of Americans who do,” Thune said in a statement this week. “It’s incredibly unfair to those who never incurred student debt because they didn’t attend college in the first place or because they either worked their way through school or their family pinched pennies and planned for higher education.” 

 

“Our resolution protects the 87 percent of Americans who don’t have student debt and will be forced to shoulder the burden of the President’s irresponsible and unfair policy,” Cassidy added. 

 

https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/08/gop-senators-move-to-block-biden-student-loan-plan

 

Like I said, get it from the schools.

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42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Like I said, get it from the schools.

Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed.

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23 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed.

 

I'm saying if they're going after someone for the money.  The taxpayers shouldn't have to shoulder the burden.

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The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront.

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2 hours ago, ALF said:

The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront.

I think the root of the problem is the outrageously high tuition charged by these universities and colleges.  Like  $40K and higher.  Some sitting on billion dollar endowment funds while soaking parents and students.

Acedemic institutions running a country club for intellectuals living the comfortable life pillaging the system and comsuming high level of resources while producing little of value. A permanent vacation.  No wonder they support socialism. They're already living it.

A cost/benefit of that colege degree weighing in with interest and expected income might show it a poor investment.

In terms of fairness, it's not right to require somebody to start their work life in a financial bottomless pit.

I'm not against these student debt relief efforts but there should be some means test and the colleges should bear, lets say 1/2 the costs, not just the taxpayers.

 

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