Random Political Thoughts Inc.

[sherpa]

9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

 

I am but a rube. Would one of the leftist board members be kind enough to educate me on what “San Francisco values” are and how we might recognize them in, uhhh, San Francisco?

 

Her missive makes no sense.

The most gifted and beautiful city in the US is in shambles, and she can't craft a logical statement.

So glad we left in '90.

 

That aside, it is a near impossibility to ever have her lose an election in that district.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

So illegals aren't getting any money?  They're just out there fending for themselves?

 

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

And yet its costing Federal, State, and local governments billions and billions to support the influx of "asylum seekers".  Its magic!

I don't know what states and cities may be doing. I know where I live it is costing the city money to provide temporary shelter, etc. 

I am refuting one specific untruth: the federal government is NOT giving  illegal aliens $2,200 in cash per month. That was a very specific claim, and it is flat-out wrong. There's no source cited for that (because there is none), so I have to assume this guy just made it up.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

I don't know what states and cities may be doing. I know where I live it is costing the city money to provide temporary shelter, etc. 

I am refuting one specific untruth: the federal government is NOT giving  illegal aliens $2,200 in cash per month. That was a very specific claim, and it is flat-out wrong. There's no source cited for that (because there is none), so I have to assume this guy just made it up.

 

What's the number, Frankish?

[T&C]

Don't want it coming out of my pocket.

 

“President Biden continues to propose budget-busting student loan bailouts that would force 87 percent of Americans who do not have student loan debt to bear the costs of the 13 percent of Americans who do,” Thune said in a statement this week. “It’s incredibly unfair to those who never incurred student debt because they didn’t attend college in the first place or because they either worked their way through school or their family pinched pennies and planned for higher education.” 

 

“Our resolution protects the 87 percent of Americans who don’t have student debt and will be forced to shoulder the burden of the President’s irresponsible and unfair policy,” Cassidy added. 

 

https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/08/gop-senators-move-to-block-biden-student-loan-plan

[Doc]

2 hours ago, T&C said:

Don't want it coming out of my pocket.

 

“President Biden continues to propose budget-busting student loan bailouts that would force 87 percent of Americans who do not have student loan debt to bear the costs of the 13 percent of Americans who do,” Thune said in a statement this week. “It’s incredibly unfair to those who never incurred student debt because they didn’t attend college in the first place or because they either worked their way through school or their family pinched pennies and planned for higher education.” 

 

“Our resolution protects the 87 percent of Americans who don’t have student debt and will be forced to shoulder the burden of the President’s irresponsible and unfair policy,” Cassidy added. 

 

https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/08/gop-senators-move-to-block-biden-student-loan-plan

 

Like I said, get it from the schools.

[T&C]

42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Like I said, get it from the schools.

Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed.

[Doc]

23 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed.

 

I'm saying if they're going after someone for the money.  The taxpayers shouldn't have to shoulder the burden.

[ALF]

The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront.

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, ALF said:

The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront.

I think the root of the problem is the outrageously high tuition charged by these universities and colleges.  Like  $40K and higher.  Some sitting on billion dollar endowment funds while soaking parents and students.

Acedemic institutions running a country club for intellectuals living the comfortable life pillaging the system and comsuming high level of resources while producing little of value. A permanent vacation.  No wonder they support socialism. They're already living it.

A cost/benefit of that colege degree weighing in with interest and expected income might show it a poor investment.

In terms of fairness, it's not right to require somebody to start their work life in a financial bottomless pit.

I'm not against these student debt relief efforts but there should be some means test and the colleges should bear, lets say 1/2 the costs, not just the taxpayers.

 

[T&C]

Welcome to the "regular folks" world hunter...

 

https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/14/hunter-biden-indicted-gun-charges

[Doc]

The good news for him is he'll probably skate on leaving cocaine in the White House...

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                         

 

 

 

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[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 9/8/2023 at 1:39 PM, JDHillFan said:

 

I am but a rube. Would one of the leftist board members be kind enough to educate me on what “San Francisco values” are and how we might recognize them in, uhhh, San Francisco?

Been there once years ago.  Seemed a nice place but, how should I say this, quirky city.  Lot's of neat places to go but lot's of homeless and literally insane people on the street.  I don't know why they have so many.  Weather is only ok.  They've had problems for a long time.

[JDHillFan]

7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Been there once years ago.  Seemed a nice place but, how should I say this, quirky city.  Lot's of neat places to go but lot's of homeless and literally insane people on the street.  I don't know why they have so many.  Weather is only ok.  They've had problems for a long time.

One might have thought the “benefit” of decades of uninterrupted progressive governance would have resulted in utopia on the bay. Instead it’s a sh*thole. Go figure. 

[Tommy Callahan]

I'm just spending the morning thinking about the Roman empire. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 9/9/2023 at 6:36 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

Acedemic institutions running a country club for intellectuals living the comfortable life pillaging the system and comsuming high level of resources while producing little of value. A permanent vacation.  No wonder they support socialism. They're already living it.

A cost/benefit of that colege degree weighing in with interest and expected income might show it a poor investment.

you seem resentful.

I can't think of an actual socialist from my college class.  In fact, many work in finance, in the heart of the capitalist system.

The cost/benefit has been done.  On average, people with degrees make much more over the course of a career...enough to offset the cost of school and interest.  I've posted the data twice now, from the census bureau I believe.  Now, if someone is borrowing every penny, they would be wise to look at cheaper alternatives.  I have friends who sent their kids to a local community college while they lived at home.  Then transferred to "name" state schools  where they got their degrees .  I left med school about $100k in debt.  Much more in todays dollars.  I paid it all off as fast as I could, moonlighting during residency to stop interest from accruing.  It can be done without too much long term financial pain if you are trained in a good paying profession or career.  BTW, med school was hardly a vacation.  About 10% of my class couldn't cut it and dropped out.

[Doc]

11 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

                                                

 

 

I hope the writer's get a huge cut of the money made from their work.  They're basically the real talent because without them, there is no show for these actors to perform. 

 

Meanwhile "Gutfeld!" is still going strong.

[The Frankish Reich]

On 3/4/2023 at 7:42 AM, SCBills said:

Russell Brand takes a flamethrower to propaganda news … absolute fire 
 

 

Groomer say what?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russell-brand-rape-sexual-assault-abuse-allegations-investigation-v5hxdlmb6

[Orlando Buffalo]

22 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you seem resentful.

I can't think of an actual socialist from my college class.  In fact, many work in finance, in the heart of the capitalist system.

The cost/benefit has been done.  On average, people with degrees make much more over the course of a career...enough to offset the cost of school and interest.  I've posted the data twice now, from the census bureau I believe.  Now, if someone is borrowing every penny, they would be wise to look at cheaper alternatives.  I have friends who sent their kids to a local community college while they lived at home.  Then transferred to "name" state schools  where they got their degrees .  I left med school about $100k in debt.  Much more in todays dollars.  I paid it all off as fast as I could, moonlighting during residency to stop interest from accruing.  It can be done without too much long term financial pain if you are trained in a good paying profession or career.  BTW, med school was hardly a vacation.  About 10% of my class couldn't cut it and dropped out.

You are retired and the world has changed, not sure how you do not realize how much academia has changed in the past 25 years. Also the cost benefit is based on people who are 50+ and not discussing those who have the worthless degrees that cost 200k that have only existed for 25 years. As you personally stated at one time UF was an easy school to get into and now it is the #1 ranked public school in the country according to WSJ. Lastly my son has an open socialist as his philosophy professor, so the students might be less the problem then the professors.