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"Little is known, and what is known is kept secret".  Quote from a U Alabama book on "the machine", which is apparently how the big shots at Bama refer to themselves.  Hmmmm...  Documentary on HBO called Bama Rush about sororities there but really about much more.

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12 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

"Little is known, and what is known is kept secret".  Quote from a U Alabama book on "the machine", which is apparently how the big shots at Bama refer to themselves.  Hmmmm...  Documentary on HBO called Bama Rush about sororities there but really about much more.

Lol, that is random.

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21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, a very presidential, world leader...

 

I didn't say he was presidential. Obviously he is not.

 

But he is a YUUUUUUGE troll.    It cracks me up when he says the most obvious trolling things Like this and the Democrats lose it.  

 

Democrats would be better off pulling out the old Reagan line, "well, there you go again" whenever President Trump pulls this stuff out and ignore it.

 

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4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I didn't say he was presidential. Obviously he is not.

 

But he is a YUUUUUUGE troll.    It cracks me up when he says the most obvious trolling things Like this and the Democrats lose it.  

 

Democrats would be better off pulling out the old Reagan line, "well, there you go again" whenever President Trump pulls this stuff out and ignore it.

 

This is your leader.  I mean...I've been tough on you guys.  But wake the f up.  The current R leaders are shite

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21 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

This is your leader.  I mean...I've been tough on you guys.  But wake the f up.  The current R leaders are shite

 

He's not my leader.  

 

This may be hard for you to understand, but I'm not on the Elephant Team and I'm not on the Donkey team. I'm on the American team.

 

That means I can be objective about these things. I also follow some of my Dad's wisdom. "No one is all good or all bad." I come to my own conclusion.  I give credit when a "leader" does what I like and criticize when they don't .

 

What I mentioned about President Trump was an observation, not praise.

 

Hopefully he never gets inside the White House again unless he pays to go on a tour.  Same goes for President Biden after the election.

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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:

 

He's not my leader.  

 

This may be hard for you to understand, but I'm not on the Elephant Team and I'm not on the Donkey team. I'm on the American team.

 

That means I can be objective about these things. I also follow some of MT Dad's wisdom. "No one is all good or all bad." I come to my own conclusion.  I give credit when a "leader" does what I like and criticize when they don't .

 

What I mentioned about President Trump was an observation, not praise.

 

Hopefully he never gets inside the White House again unless he pays to go on a tour.  Same goes for President Biden after the election.

I'm on the Donkey team, no doubt.  Even if there were a rebirth of the old R party.  But I respect your point of view.

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Rock on Frank!

https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-vatican-conservatives-abortion-us-bbfc346c117bd9ae68a1963478bea6b3

 

 

The 86-year-old Argentine acknowledged his point, saying there was “a very strong, organized, reactionary attitude” in the U.S. church, which he called “backward.” He warned that such an attitude leads to a climate of closure, which was erroneous. 

“Doing this, you lose the true tradition and you turn to ideologies to have support. In other words, ideologies replace faith,” he said.

“The vision of the doctrine of the church as a monolith is wrong,” he added. “When you go backward, you make something closed off, disconnected from the roots of the church,” which then has devastating effects on morality.

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52 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Rock on Frank!

https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-vatican-conservatives-abortion-us-bbfc346c117bd9ae68a1963478bea6b3

 

 

The 86-year-old Argentine acknowledged his point, saying there was “a very strong, organized, reactionary attitude” in the U.S. church, which he called “backward.” He warned that such an attitude leads to a climate of closure, which was erroneous. 

“Doing this, you lose the true tradition and you turn to ideologies to have support. In other words, ideologies replace faith,” he said.

“The vision of the doctrine of the church as a monolith is wrong,” he added. “When you go backward, you make something closed off, disconnected from the roots of the church,” which then has devastating effects on morality.

IE, 100% align with the Roman church or be called out as backward/false profit.

 

Been that way for centuries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

IE, 100% align with the Roman church or be called out as backward/false profit.

 

Been that way for centuries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, profit was an issue under the last Pope.  but that's another story.  Frank is calling out the bad acts of some clergy.  I don't see any punishment being metered out.  And the conversation was in a private group of Jesuits.  Someone leaked it but it's OK.  Nice to confirm where he stands.

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21 hours ago, Chris farley said:

IE, 100% align with the Roman church or be called out as backward/false profit.

 

Been that way for centuries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” 

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1 minute ago, Roundybout said:


Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” 

Ok.  Protestant would cover most Christian denominations?  

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47 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Yea, this is just a classic Catholic vs Protestant thing. Catholics believe the Church was given to St. Peter as the first Pope and was then passed down to each pope after in the tradition of Apostolic Succession. Protestants say “lol no, we’re gonna use the Word and interpret it in our own way.” 

Or "we interpret literally" and then don't see the conflict between thou shalt not kill and the death penalty or an unjust war...or trump and christianity, for that matter.

 

and then there is that passage about "You are Peter.  And on this rock, I will build my church".  Amazingly, no mention of Luther or Calvin or Henry the 8th.

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37 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Correct. Anything not Catholic can be considered Protestant, dating back to Martin Luther‘s reforms.

Well, not really?

 

Other denominations (eastern Orthodox primarily but there are others) exist separately from Catholicism but predate the reformation.

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