Been diagnosed with Diabetes

[Mr Info]

11 hours ago, Limeaid said:

Had my 3 month test.  Doctor sent me to specialist for Average Estimated Glucose was over 300 and I told him it was likely due to diet was on.

Was that a fasting test? If so, then, it appears you have Type II. Has there been any recommendations for diet/exercise and/or medication like metformin or an SGLT inhibitor like Jardiance? 

[Saxum]

46 minutes ago, Mr Info said:

Was that a fasting test? If so, then, it appears you have Type II. Has there been any recommendations for diet/exercise and/or medication like metformin or an SGLT inhibitor like Jardiance? 

 

I was over 300 before with sugar but I was on a diet high in sugar to force weight loss.

Yes it was a fasting test.  I am taking metformin but not notice difference when I take it (just side affects).

She said she did not want me on insulin until she had a better handle of my chemistry and I was being monitored. I have used Decom G6 for 2 months.

I really cannot do much exercises except walking which I am trying.

Started diet on my own and giving up stuff I knew had high carbs and now using some websites from which my wife has been substituting including Zoodles (Zucchini Noodles), white yam noodles, etc.  Not been able to find any of some of the substitute ice creams locally unless I went to Keto ones and those have too much fat.

 

My blood sugar is in the normal range +90% of the time and spikes usually after meals.

Waiting for doctor to review tests she had done and call.  

[Mr Info]

7 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

I was over 300 before with sugar but I was on a diet high in sugar to force weight loss.

I do not understand this at all. This makes absolutely no sense. I am interested in any reputable clinical studies supporting this. Extremely high blood sugars over a significant range of time will lead to weight loss but there are far more healthier ways to accomplish this.
 

If metformin is resulting in side effects, perhaps you can discuss using an SGLT2 inhibitor like Jardiance with your doctor.

The link below summarizes various clinical study results pertaining to Jardiance such as promoting weight loss and offering renal and cardiac protection. I have no association with Lilly who manufactures Jardiance.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/surprising-benefits-of-jardiance-the-type-2-diabetes-drug/

Edited August 1, 2021 by Mr Info

[Saxum]

4 hours ago, Mr Info said:

I do not understand this at all. This makes absolutely no sense. I am interested in any reputable clinical studies supporting this. Extremely high blood sugars over a significant range of time will lead to weight loss but there are far more healthier ways to accomplish this.
 

If metformin is resulting in side effects, perhaps you can discuss using an SGLT2 inhibitor like Jardiance with your doctor.

The link below summarizes various clinical study results pertaining to Jardiance such as promoting weight loss and offering renal and cardiac protection. I have no association with Lilly who manufactures Jardiance.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/surprising-benefits-of-jardiance-the-type-2-diabetes-drug/

 

Interesting read.  I lost weight from 265 down to 240 this year on high sugar diet.  Right now I go between 230 and 240 pounds.

 

I will see what doctor says about my metabolism after call from test and my appointment in mid September.  

My medical insurance Cigna is not one I recommend since they have very limited selections on medication, therapy, devices and doctors but only one they offer other than Kaiser Permanente and some high deductible plans at my employer.

[The Poojer]

I had my annual physical and bloodwork earlier this year.  Did the bloodwork about 3 days after getting my 1st covid implant chip.  My a1c went from a 5.5 in 2019 to 7.7 in 2020.  Told my doctor I was concerned that the chip implant might/could have caused my number to jump so quickly.  He pretty much told me that wasn't the case as it's a 3 month rolling average number.  But he agreed to get me another test in 3 months.  So I take the test down a full point with no change in anything.  He suggested another one an additional 3 months later.  That 3rd one is 9/1.  This one will be done with significantly more physical activity having been started.  We'll see.

[Saxum]

I am beginning to think the pattern I see everyone has. 

You eat, blood sugar goes up and then it goes down.

I have not taken medication and seen same pattern.

 

 

[Putin]

On 4/8/2021 at 7:47 PM, Limeaid said:

I have hyperglycemia a fair amount of my life but now my doctor is telling me I have Diabetes but has not classified it as Type 1 (pancreas not producing insulin) or type 2 but has not stated which type.  I have been put on 2 types of medication and insulin but insulin instructions made it impossible to take and work.  After several days doctor told me just ignore instructions on package and just take it any time of day I can.  He wants me to see a specialist (most listed as accepting insurance are gone, not taking insurance or not taking new patients but still on list) but very difficult to find a specialist, have tests done beyond basic ones or get physical therapy so avoid Cigna health insurance

Definitely noticed changes but not sure if more due to radical diet changes or medication.  My wife gave me my first insulin shot today.  

Sorry to hear Limeaid but just want to wish you all the best moving forward !! 

[Mr Info]

18 hours ago, Limeaid said:

I am beginning to think the pattern I see everyone has. 

You eat, blood sugar goes up and then it goes down.

I have not taken medication and seen same pattern.

 

 

Yes, that’s true. But blood sugar for a healthy, non-diabetic will return to normal value two hours after a meal. If you have diabetes, your body doesn’t make insulin (type 1 diabetes) or doesn’t respond to it normally (type 2 diabetes). That can leave your blood sugar too high for too long. Over time, that can damage nerves and blood vessels and lead to heart disease and other problems.

You can pick up a glucometer and some test strips and document your blood sugars at various times after a meal to determine when/if it returns to normal and discuss these values with your physician. An endocrinologist is typically more familiar with diabetes than a GP.

[Saxum]

45 minutes ago, Mr Info said:

Yes, that’s true. But blood sugar for a healthy, non-diabetic will return to normal value two hours after a meal. If you have diabetes, your body doesn’t make insulin (type 1 diabetes) or doesn’t respond to it normally (type 2 diabetes). That can leave your blood sugar too high for too long. Over time, that can damage nerves and blood vessels and lead to heart disease and other problems.

You can pick up a glucometer and some test strips and document your blood sugars at various times after a meal to determine when/if it returns to normal and discuss these values with your physician. An endocrinologist is typically more familiar with diabetes than a GP.

 

I have an endocrinologist but hard to get time.  Mine almost always returns to normal after 2 hours.

I have a Dexcom G6 to regularly monitor sugar level and a Contour Next EZ as glucometer to do calibrations. 

My wife now has some recipes to make some dishes for me I can eat fairly regularly but missing things like ice cream really bothered me.  Only ones available locally are pints mostly KETO which have too much fat.  Stores have advertised Carb Smart ice cream and treats but every time I go to store they are out and usually there are no shelf tags.

[Saxum]

Some useful tables to share although they require a bit of computer skill to search:

 

International Tables of Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load Values: 2008

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/diacare/suppl/2008/09/18/dc08-1239.DC1/TableA1_1.pdf

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/diacare/suppl/2008/09/18/dc08-1239.DC1/TableA2_1.pdf

[Saxum]

Had my checkup with doctor.  No need to either take use Dexcom device (piece of crap with lying advertisements) or medication.  Just stay on diet.

Blood sugar under control.  The hemoglobin A1c is perfect at 6.2.*

 

Cholesterol is also under control.

 

* Perfect for someone not using medication to control.  Needed to get clarification from doctor since her original statement confused me,

Edited March 16, 2022 by Limeaid

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 3/11/2022 at 12:51 PM, Limeaid said:

Just stay on diet.

 

 

[Mr Info]

On 3/11/2022 at 1:51 PM, Limeaid said:

Had my checkup with doctor.  No need to either take use Dexcom device (piece of crap with lying advertisements) or medication.  Just stay on diet.

Blood sugar under control.  The hemoglobin A1c is perfect at 6.2.*

 

Cholesterol is also under control.

 

* Perfect for someone not using medication to control.  Needed to get clarification from doctor since her original statement confused me,

Great there is some other solution for you besides the Dexcom sensors. But they operate amazingly well for me and many others. 

[stuvian]

wishing you a healthy transition as you learn to live with this

[Augie]

8 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

 

 

Met a guy on my wife’s work team at Anchor Bar the day before the opener vs Steelers. I knew he was diabetic, but apparently there was a lot I don’t know. I expected a heavy guy, but he was very thin and in his 30’s. 

 

The longer I live, the more I realize how much I don’t know. I am an expert at ignorance! 

[MarkyMannn]

So if you're just going with diet, my Endo recommended steel cut oats for breakfast. I have it 5x a week and I've seen some drops in glucose.

 

Most importantly, diabetes can mess with your eyes, the retina. Go at least once, better twice a year to an eye doctor. Preferably a retinoligist. I go to WNY Retina

[boater]

On 3/15/2022 at 11:47 PM, Augie said:

 

Met a guy on my wife’s work team at Anchor Bar the day before the opener vs Steelers. I knew he was diabetic, but apparently there was a lot I don’t know. I expected a heavy guy, but he was very thin and in his 30’s. 

 

The longer I live, the more I realize how much I don’t know. I am an expert at ignorance! 

Philadelphia Flyers Hall of Fame Center, Bobby Clark is Type 1. He was diagnosed when he was 15.

[Saxum]

On 3/16/2022 at 8:18 PM, MarkyMannn said:

So if you're just going with diet, my Endo recommended steel cut oats for breakfast. I have it 5x a week and I've seen some drops in glucose.

 

Most importantly, diabetes can mess with your eyes, the retina. Go at least once, better twice a year to an eye doctor. Preferably a retinoligist. I go to WNY Retina

 

I love oatmeal but been avoiding due to carbs.  I used to work on road at night and when I got back to Hilton I'd eat a bowl of oatmeal (I was so much of a regular person in charge of morning breakfast would save me a bowl) and use it to go to sleep.   I'll have to try this using Stevia rather than my usual brown sugar.

 

I have read on WebMD they have a lot more fat than I'd expect with oats.  Serving size seems extremely small.

Would be question I'd add dietician but the person recommended does not answer phone calls. 

 

https://www.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-steel-cut-oats

Nutrition

Steel cut oats are rich in protein and fiber, improving fullness and helping to provide the macronutrient building blocks of a healthy diet.

They are also an excellent source of:

Vitamin B Complex

Iron

Nutrients per Serving

A ¼ cup serving of steel cut oats (the amount typically found in a single serving) contains:

Calories: 150

Protein: 5 grams

Fat: 2.5 grams

Carbohydrates: 27 grams

Fiber: 4 grams

Sugar: 1 gram 

Portion Sizes

Steel cut oats are low in fat and high in protein, fiber, and other nutrients. They also have a low glycemic index. However, steel cut oats are a carbohydrate-rich food. People on low carbohydrate diets may wish to limit the amount of oats that they eat. Moderating your portions and keeping your servings to a quarter cup or less will help keep you from consuming too many calories.