BeastMode54 Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 He doesn't seem like a bad guy, and has had serious ups and downs with alcohol. He has made an effort to get his sh#t together and seems to be on the straight and narrow now. He was one of the most physical freaks I have ever seen. I don't want anything to ruin the locker room dynamic and team feel, but I think the Bills would be possibly the best organization for him to thrive in because of that the team unity. Add in Poyers admitted alcohol issues, he would have a huge, supportive group around him to make sure he is able to succeed at the best of his ability. Thoughts? 1 3 1 1
Kwai San Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Forgot about Poyer.....who knows maybe worth kicking the tires???
NewEra Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Sure. Most pass rushers are worth a look imo. Dunno what he has in the tank, but bring him in and check him out. Can’t hurt 3 2
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 I'd more or less want to know where his heads at, he has so much less miles on those tires then his peers that have been playing all these years but sometimes being mentally tired can be just as bad. 5 sacks after being out of football for 4 seasons isn't terrible, I wonder what his asking price is. 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 Link to previous thread (now locked) to loop in some of that discussion 1
Draconator Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) From the other thread, he had one or two good games with the Cowboys. Average or below average the rest of the time. I'm all for 2nd, 3rd and many chances. If he can be consistent, then sure. But if he shows occasional flashes and is a potential liability on the field more often than not, then no. Edited March 31, 2021 by Draconator
TBBills Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) Bring him in for camp. Honestly Josh Allen is the bread and butter of the locker room and I doubt anyone will be able to ruin it now. Maybe when he was a rook but these guys will take a bullet for him as far as I see. So I don't see any players being able to ruin a locker room for this team anymore. Edited March 31, 2021 by TBBills
machine gun kelly Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 There’s not really a downside. He played well and kept his head on straight the entire year so if anything Jerrah took the huge risk. He’s not worth paying anything more than the minimum with a bunch of incentives. He has incredible raw skills. His first three years were electric, then his problems and the longest suspension I’ve ever seen to come back and have a productive year. What is accurate is that defense was terrible. Why not bring him into camp, let him compete and see what happens? If he is not the best on one side, or starts his antics, then they cut him with no foul. 1
DCofNC Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 The obvious case is, he was a top 10 player at his position at one point, but also obvious is the lack of time he has spent playing football lately. I don’t know what to make of him, but I’d say he’s worth a camp spot. If he forces you to keep him, awesome, if not, oh well.
Brennan Huff Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 I’d rather have Clowney. You can hate me now 1
BillsShredder83 Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 Any idea what hes looking for contract wise? I love the idea of it, i trust the lockerroom to show him how its done. If not i trust Beane to ship him outta town. Biggest hurdle is money on a short term prove it deal. Not expecting "team discount" but hes also not getting anything past middle of the pack money
The Frankish Reich Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 10:10 AM, BeastMode54 said: He doesn't seem like a bad guy, and has had serious ups and downs with alcohol. He has made an effort to get his sh#t together and seems to be on the straight and narrow now. He was one of the most physical freaks I have ever seen. I don't want anything to ruin the locker room dynamic and team feel, but I think the Bills would be possibly the best organization for him to thrive in because of that the team unity. Add in Poyers admitted alcohol issues, he would have a huge, supportive group around him to make sure he is able to succeed at the best of his ability. Thoughts? Without going beyond his wiki page ... seriously? On January 28, 2012, Smith was arrested for driving under the influence in Miami Beach, Florida.[33][34] On June 30, 2012, Smith was believed to have suffered stab wounds when attempting to break up a fight at a party at his Santa Clara county residence. Two other people were shot in the incident.[35] On October 9, 2013, Smith was charged with "three felony counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon" relating to the stabbing incident. The charges were later reduced to misdemeanors.[36] On September 20, 2013, Smith was involved in a single-vehicle accident in San Jose, California. He was subsequently arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of marijuana. After the loss to the Indianapolis Colts in the third week of the football season, he voluntarily entered a rehabilitation facility, to be put onto the non-football injury list with an indefinite leave of absence.[37] On April 13, 2014, Smith was detained and arrested following an incident at the Los Angeles International Airport in which Smith became belligerent and uncooperative with a TSA agent, who alleged Smith claimed he was carrying a bomb.[38] After interviews revealed that Smith did not clearly state he was carrying a bomb, the Los Angeles City Attorney decided to drop the charges. Smith was suspended for nine games for the 2014 season. On August 6, 2015, Smith was arrested in Santa Clara, California, for an alleged hit and run after driving under the influence, and vandalism charges.[39] He was released by the 49ers the next day as a result.[20] On March 9, 2017, Smith was a passenger with a friend driving to Smith's house at 12:00 AM, when the San Francisco police department found out both Smith and the driver were under the influence. Even though Smith was not the driver, both Smith and his friend were detained by the San Francisco Police Department for questioning. The next day, Smith and his friend were released. No arrests were made.[40][41] On September 23, 2017, it was announced that Smith had agreed to plead no contest to hit and run in the 2015 incident in exchange for the DUI charges being dropped. He was sentenced to 20 days in jail. During his sentence, he was ordered to attend a treatment facility, and undergo anger management classes. After his release, he was prohibited from entering any bars or other establishments where alcohol is the primary commodity being sold.[42] On March 3, 2018, someone called the police from Smith's home and reported that he had consumed multiple bottles of tequila and then bit her wrists. Smith reportedly fled the home before police arrived. San Francisco police did not comment on the specifics but did state that domestic violence of a "non-lethal" nature had occurred and they were seeking out Smith for questioning about the incident.[25] On March 23, 2018, Smith was arrested for violation of a court order, where he was ordered to stay away from a woman he assaulted earlier in the month. The woman was revealed to be Smith's fiancee. This picked up from a previous incident that occurred on March 3, where Smith pleaded not guilty on four misdemeanor counts, including domestic violence, assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury, false imprisonment, and vandalism.[43] On April 8, 2018, Smith was arrested for violations in conditions to his bail.[44] 1 1
US Egg Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 I'm old and slow, 6'1" 245lb. Not a deer, coyote, raccoon, fox, possum, or goose in my yard that even tries to get by me. I don't have any guns, weapons or dogs. That's my resume.
SECRET SQUIRREL Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Without going beyond his wiki page ... seriously? On January 28, 2012, Smith was arrested for driving under the influence in Miami Beach, Florida.[33][34] On June 30, 2012, Smith was believed to have suffered stab wounds when attempting to break up a fight at a party at his Santa Clara county residence. Two other people were shot in the incident.[35] On October 9, 2013, Smith was charged with "three felony counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon" relating to the stabbing incident. The charges were later reduced to misdemeanors.[36] On September 20, 2013, Smith was involved in a single-vehicle accident in San Jose, California. He was subsequently arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence and possession of marijuana. After the loss to the Indianapolis Colts in the third week of the football season, he voluntarily entered a rehabilitation facility, to be put onto the non-football injury list with an indefinite leave of absence.[37] On April 13, 2014, Smith was detained and arrested following an incident at the Los Angeles International Airport in which Smith became belligerent and uncooperative with a TSA agent, who alleged Smith claimed he was carrying a bomb.[38] After interviews revealed that Smith did not clearly state he was carrying a bomb, the Los Angeles City Attorney decided to drop the charges. Smith was suspended for nine games for the 2014 season. On August 6, 2015, Smith was arrested in Santa Clara, California, for an alleged hit and run after driving under the influence, and vandalism charges.[39] He was released by the 49ers the next day as a result.[20] On March 9, 2017, Smith was a passenger with a friend driving to Smith's house at 12:00 AM, when the San Francisco police department found out both Smith and the driver were under the influence. Even though Smith was not the driver, both Smith and his friend were detained by the San Francisco Police Department for questioning. The next day, Smith and his friend were released. No arrests were made.[40][41] On September 23, 2017, it was announced that Smith had agreed to plead no contest to hit and run in the 2015 incident in exchange for the DUI charges being dropped. He was sentenced to 20 days in jail. During his sentence, he was ordered to attend a treatment facility, and undergo anger management classes. After his release, he was prohibited from entering any bars or other establishments where alcohol is the primary commodity being sold.[42] On March 3, 2018, someone called the police from Smith's home and reported that he had consumed multiple bottles of tequila and then bit her wrists. Smith reportedly fled the home before police arrived. San Francisco police did not comment on the specifics but did state that domestic violence of a "non-lethal" nature had occurred and they were seeking out Smith for questioning about the incident.[25] On March 23, 2018, Smith was arrested for violation of a court order, where he was ordered to stay away from a woman he assaulted earlier in the month. The woman was revealed to be Smith's fiancee. This picked up from a previous incident that occurred on March 3, where Smith pleaded not guilty on four misdemeanor counts, including domestic violence, assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury, false imprisonment, and vandalism.[43] On April 8, 2018, Smith was arrested for violations in conditions to his bail.[44] That's it?? 🤣 1
947 Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 I would absolutely look into him. Would be dirt cheap & might end up our best pass-rusher.
John from Riverside Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 There are some high profile edges still out there......I am guessing they want too much money Melvin Ingram another one? 1
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