Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 8:59 PM, Chef Jim said: Sigh....why do I even bother. Plant the seed of doubt in a jury and even a pretty guilty murderer goes free. Expand So you agree he is obviously guilty? On 4/12/2021 at 6:04 PM, B-Man said: Expand Can’t defend the killer, so try and attack the free press. Yawn
Boatdrinks Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 Guilty and being found guilty in a court of law are not the same thing. Guilty people do walk free. This is true regardless of one’s take on Chauvin.
Chef Jim Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:14 PM, Tiberius said: So you agree he is obviously guilty? Expand Do I agree with whom?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 8:20 PM, Chef Jim said: I find it quite entertaining you used the word exaggerated in this post to refer to someone else. Expand Plus I thought it was north of 80,000,000 who voted for Biden but maybe the Les Habitant crowd has some insider intel from young Trudeau.
Chef Jim Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:19 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Plus I thought it was north of 80,000,000 who voted for Biden but maybe the Les Habitant crowd has some insider intel from young Trudeau. Expand It's the vote conversion from loonies to non-loonies. 1 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:16 PM, Boatdrinks said: Guilty and being found guilty in a court of law are not the same thing. Guilty people do walk free. This is true regardless of one’s take on Chauvin. Expand He won’t be found not guilty. That will not happen.
SoCal Deek Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:16 PM, Boatdrinks said: Guilty and being found guilty in a court of law are not the same thing. Guilty people do walk free. This is true regardless of one’s take on Chauvin. Expand And you’re going to be the one to decide? Good to know! Can you give America your 800 number?
Boatdrinks Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:27 PM, Tiberius said: He won’t be found not guilty. That will not happen. Expand In this one rare instance, you may be right.
T&C Posted April 12, 2021 Author Posted April 12, 2021 Banana mayonnaise sandwiches, can't wrap my head around this one. Yow. https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/04/12/chauvin-trial-george-floyd-prosecution-nears-end
Motorin' Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:07 PM, SoCal Deek said: I don’t want to get into an entire debate here but wasn’t it shown that he was actually kneeling on his shoulder? Or doesn’t that fit the narrative? It doesn’t make what the officer did right, but at least we should get the facts straight. Expand You seem to be focusing excusivley on the defense narrative that has been refuted by expert witnesses and piles of video evidence. Was there a still frame that showed Chauvin's knee on Floyd's shoulder? Absolutely. Are there many many minutes of video that show his knee on his neck? Absolutely. If you watch the video and do not see a man being slowly suffocated to death, I don't know what to tell you. Do me a favor, watch how Chauvin picks up George Floyd's pulseless body by the handcuffs and drags him across the street when the paramedics arrive and let me know if Chauvin is a man that seems to respect George Floyd's basic human right to life. 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:28 PM, SoCal Deek said: And you’re going to be the one to decide? Good to know! Can you give America your 800 number? Expand Me, decide that? Hell no!!
JaCrispy Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) On 4/12/2021 at 9:13 PM, Tiberius said: Lol, no, it’s pretty clear cut. Thanks though 🙏 Expand Did witnesses specifically testify that the cause of death was suffocation due to the kneeling? What about the testifying of narcotics that appear to have been consumed/ in the blood stream before the kneeling? Do we know that the drugs played NO part? Perhaps...but that, right there, might raise doubt amongst one of the jurors- even if it doesn’t with you... And that’s just the cause of death...next you have to determine intent- which is even harder... As much as we detest what Chauvin did, each person is due a fair trial, and every aspect of the situation must be examined to the fullest... Edited April 12, 2021 by JaCrispy
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:29 PM, Motorin' said: You seem to be focusing excusivley on the defense narrative that has been refuted by expert witnesses and piles of video evidence. Was there a still frame that showed Chauvin's knee on Floyd's shoulder? Absolutely. Are there many many minutes of video that show his knee on his neck? Absolutely. If you watch the video and do not see a man being slowly suffocated to death, I don't know what to tell you. Do me a favor, watch how Chauvin picks up George Floyd's pulseless body by the handcuffs and drags him across the street when the paramedics arrive and let me know if Chauvin is a man that seems to respect George Floyd's basic human right to life. Expand That last part, it was just horrible. 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:29 PM, Motorin' said: You seem to be focusing excusivley on the defense narrative that has been refuted by expert witnesses and piles of video evidence. Was there a still frame that showed Chauvin's knee on Floyd's shoulder? Absolutely. Are there many many minutes of video that show his knee on his neck? Absolutely. If you watch the video and do not see a man being slowly suffocated to death, I don't know what to tell you. Do me a favor, watch how Chauvin picks up George Floyd's pulseless body by the handcuffs and drags him across the street when the paramedics arrive and let me know if Chauvin is a man that seems to respect George Floyd's basic human right to life. Expand Once again, not trying to get into an entire debate here. I’ve watched literally none of this trial. I’ve only seen small excerpts. I believe I already said it doesn’t make anything the officer did right.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:31 PM, JaCrispy said: Did witnesses specifically testify that the cause of death was suffocation due to the kneeling? What about the testifying of narcotics that appear to have been consumed/ in the blood stream before the kneeling? Do we know that the drugs played NO part? Perhaps...but that, right there, might raise doubt amongst one of the jurors- even if it doesn’t with you... And that’s just the cause of death...next you have to determine intent- which is even harder... As much as we detest what Chauvin did, each person is due a fair trial, and every aspect of the situation must be examined... Expand Expert witnesses in many areas testified of the guilt of the defendant and what he did wrong that ended up killing Floyd
Motorin' Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:32 PM, SoCal Deek said: Once again, not trying to get into an entire debate here. I’ve watched literally none of this trial. I’ve only seen small excerpts. I believe I already said it doesn’t make anything the officer did right. Expand Chauvin has a right to a fair trial, and the defense is doing the best job it can for what they are paid to do. I'm sure there are commentators who would take a still frame representing 1/30th of a second and try to claim that it is represenative of the entire 10 minutes. It's also true that a knee and leg and be on the shoulder and neck at the same time. The medical report was ruled death due to lack of oxygen and homicide.
Melon Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 Why are those that stump for Chauvin’s defense the same that defend Matt Gaetz? Because they’re still members of the cult! Thank you for the support
T&C Posted April 12, 2021 Author Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:31 PM, JaCrispy said: Did witnesses specifically testify that the cause of death was suffocation due to the kneeling? What about the testifying of narcotics that appear to have been consumed/ in the blood stream before the kneeling? Do we know that the drugs played NO part? Perhaps...but that, right there, might raise doubt amongst one of the jurors- even if it doesn’t with you... And that’s just the cause of death...next you have to determine intent- which is even harder... As much as we detest what Chauvin did, each person is due a fair trial, and every aspect of the situation must be examined to the fullest... Expand Now, that is a sentence I can get on board with. 1
Motorin' Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:31 PM, JaCrispy said: Did witnesses specifically testify that the cause of death was suffocation due to the kneeling? What about the testifying of narcotics that appear to have been consumed/ in the blood stream before the kneeling? Do we know that the drugs played NO part? Perhaps...but that, right there, might raise doubt amongst one of the jurors- even if it doesn’t with you... And that’s just the cause of death...next you have to determine intent- which is even harder... As much as we detest what Chauvin did, each person is due a fair trial, and every aspect of the situation must be examined to the fullest... Expand Yes, the medical examiner ruled death due to lack of oxygen and homicide. Many fellow officers and law enforcement experts testified that Chauvin killed him. He continued to kneel on his neck area for almost three minutes after his fellow officer was unable to find a pulse. Fellow police officers testified that Chauvin was required by law to proceed CPR when Floyd became unconscious. An off duty Minneapolis EMT offered to provide CPR. Chauvin refused the offer, and continued to kneel on his pulseless neck. When the paramedics arrived, Chauvin slowly got off of Floyd's neck and dragged his lifeless corpse across the street by his handcuffed arms and throw his lifeless body on the stretcher. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 12, 2021 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 9:43 PM, Melania Trump said: Why are those that stump for Chauvin’s defense the same that defend Matt Gaetz? Because they’re still members of the cult! Thank you for the support Expand Ya, why is that? The same crowd loved George Zimmerman, too
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