No_Matter_What Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Toney is interesting, I think he could be great for GB, but he seems a little to busty for my likes for a team that needs to not miss I only wanted to help Virgil to list players in my post, I didn't express any opinions. But I find it interesting that I think completely the opposite. I think we are exactly that team who should take risks and draft high ceiling guys. Just now, GunnerBill said: JOK is sticking out so far on my board that I almost feel like a poll is offensive 😛 The top 5 BPA by my board FWIW is: 1. JOK 2. Christian Barmore 3. Kadarius Toney 4. Alex Leatherwood 5. Travis Etienne Barmore plays for Packers already. 1
TPS Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: JOK is sticking out so far on my board that I almost feel like a poll is offensive 😛 The top 5 BPA by my board FWIW is: 1. JOK 2. Christian Barmore 3. Kadarius Toney 4. Alex Leatherwood 5. Travis Etienne McD would be salivating to finally get his Big Nickel.
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 @Virgil Last year when Hokie was running the spreadsheet for the trades mock I gave him my top 100 players list as well that he included alongside Matt Miller and possibly DJ and someone else. It is by no means a finished article at this point but I can let you have it where it is for the trades one if people would find helpful.
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, No_Matter_What said: I only wanted to help Virgil to list players in my post, I didn't express any opinions. But I find it interesting that I think completely the opposite. I think we are exactly that team who should take risks and draft high ceiling guys. Barmore plays for Packers already. Oh I wasn't implying you were. I just wanted to toss out to the forum that I considered him and he could be a fit there. THE Packers did nothing in the draft last year to help Rodgers, hence my comment they need a player who has less of a bust chance. 1
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: Barmore plays for Packers already. Ah yes he has just gone.... Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia would become the 5th guy on my top 5 BPA in that case. 1
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: From what I read on TBD: WR: Toney, Bateman, Moore RB: Harris, Etienne TE: Freiermuth OT: Mayfield OG: Davis DE: Phillips, Oweh, Ossai, Basham LB: Owusu-Koramoah CB: Stokes, Samuel I know that is too much overall but all these guys were discussed a lot (except maybe Bateman/JOK who were mocked higher). I know it will not happen, but I suggest to make position poll (with these or other names in brackets), and then make player poll (if there are more reasonable players at that position). Good list: i don’t see Basham, Moore, Samuel as in play. I’d add leatherwood and Tyson Campbell 2 1
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Please no why please no?
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) JOK would be my pick in a no trade down situation. BPA and is so versatile. Might be a strange fit but we’d have to get creative and switch things up.....which is exactly what we need on D Toney and Phillips would be a coin toss for next best pick Imo Edited March 28, 2021 by NewEra
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’m going to do a top 10. Top 2 at stated positions or interest In that case I'd look at the top 2 at WR, O-line, CB, RB, LB, and edge rusher. I know that would be top 12 instead of 10 but any one of those positions is in play. And my list would look like this: O-line - Landon Dickerson, Jalen Mayfield (some would put Alex Leatherwood instead of Mayfield) WR - Kadarius Toney, Rashod Bateman CB - Tyson Campbell, Eric Stokes RB - Travis Etienne, Najee Harris LB - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Baron Browning Edge rusher - Jaelan Phillips, Joseph Ossai Although to Gunner's point if the board falls like this I'll be shocked if the pick is anybody other than Owusu-Koramoah. Edited March 28, 2021 by HappyDays 1
No_Matter_What Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Good list: i don’t see Basham, Moore, Samuel as in play. I’d add leatherwood and Tyson Campbell I mentioned Moore since he gets mocked to us a lot in Mock Draft SImulator thread IIRC (presumably because Toney is not available already). Basham has some strong supporters here too Samuel was mocked to us in at least two different mock from talking heads I think.
NeverOutNick Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Good list: i don’t see Basham, Moore, Samuel as in play. I’d add leatherwood and Tyson Campbell Basham and if we’re talking Purdue’s Moore are both going to be studs in this league 1
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 most mocks I've seen have OL, Edge, LB, CB, or RB to us at this spot.
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I mentioned Moore since he gets mocked to us a lot in Mock Draft SImulator thread IIRC (presumably because Toney is not available already). Basham has some strong supporters here too Samuel was mocked to us in at least two different mock from talking heads I think. Any talking heads mocking Asante to us are lazy. He is a man only corner. The Bills play zone. I'd be stunned and I mean stunned if he is the Bills pick at #30. 2
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I mentioned Moore since he gets mocked to us a lot in Mock Draft SImulator thread IIRC (presumably because Toney is not available already). Basham has some strong supporters here too Samuel was mocked to us in at least two different mock from talking heads I think. right, toney is available....so moore is a no Basham isn’t even close to being the best pass rushing DE available....and that’s what we need. Pass rush samuel jr is a man corner and we rarely play man, while Stokes and Campbell are much better suited for the D that we play. 1
NeverOutNick Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 I’d make a bet that if both have healthy careers Moore has the more successful one over Toney. Kid has something special kind of like a Percy Harvin or Tyreke Hill lite
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: right, toney is available....so moore is a no Basham isn’t even close to being the best pass rushing DE available....and that’s what we need. Pass rush samuel jr is a man corner and we rarely play man, while Stokes and Campbell are much better suited for the D that we play. Campbell and Joseph are my next two corners and I think both are good fits.
ghostwriter Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 If not Basham, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah is the obvious pick here. He’s a better version of Kyle Dugger. May be a bit undersized but boy does he hit hard. Stud safety/linebacker hybrid. Yes, please. Will be a difference maker. 1
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, NeverOutNick said: I’d make a bet that if both have healthy careers Moore has the more successful one over Toney. Kid has something special kind of like a Percy Harvin or Tyreke Hill lite Percy Harvin had something special? Really? I must have missed that day. One of the most overrated players I have ever seen in the NFL. How many 1,000 yard receiving seasons did he have? It is a very round number. Rondale Moore does have talent, and he does have speed.... but he has also played 7 games over the last two years. Whether he is even capable of being the guy he was as a freshman at this point is a question mark. 1
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Posted March 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Any talking heads mocking Asante to us are lazy. He is a man only corner. The Bills play zone. I'd be stunned and I mean stunned if he is the Bills pick at #30. I didn't include him. He wasn't even close to BPA at his position for our selection 1
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