whatdrought Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, frostbitmic said: Saints need a lot, I almost went with Barmore there but I think Collins can be a 3 down LB. They also start a couple of AARP members in their secondary with a 33 yr old CB and Safety. Next round maybe. I like the pick. He and Damario Davis make a nice combo. 1
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: For instance, Lance Zeirline at NFL.com had Tyson Campbell from Georgia as one of his top 5 CB’s. I like Campbell, and i usually trust LZ, but most everyone else has him at like 10th CB. I have him as #5 too. EDIT: Not sure how people have suddenly propelled Stokes over him. Edited March 28, 2021 by GunnerBill
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF With the 29th pick in the draft The Green Bay Packers select Christian Barmore iDL, Alabama Paired with Kenny Clark and the Smith's we will have a penetrating front 4 with strong pressure up the middle. While we still need help at WR and CB, the depth at the part of the draft and the players on our board, Barmore stands out. 2
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Posted March 28, 2021 @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly
ghostwriter Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly Carlos Basham! 1
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Virgil said: You may have just angered some Bills fans quite likely, myself included! 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly perhaps Gil Brant's top 100 as a guide: https://www.nfl.com/news/gil-brandt-s-hot-100-1-0-top-prospects-in-2021-nfl-draft-class
TPS Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: The 2 RBs, maybe Asante Jr, Friermuth, As mentioned above, LB JOK too
RyanC883 Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly a DL perhaps like Levi Onwuzurike 1
turftoe Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Must have Edge/ DE choices Phillips, Tryon, Basham, Owah
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, TPS said: As mentioned above, LB JOK too I'm reaching a lil based in need, CBS are a bit picked through, and I like the TE. Just don't expect much out of the TE for a few seasons
No_Matter_What Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly From what I read on TBD: WR: Toney, Bateman, Moore RB: Harris, Etienne TE: Freiermuth OT: Mayfield OG: Davis DE: Phillips, Oweh, Ossai, Basham LB: Owusu-Koramoah CB: Stokes, Samuel I know that is too much overall but all these guys were discussed a lot (except maybe Bateman/JOK who were mocked higher). I know it will not happen, but I suggest to make position poll (with these or other names in brackets), and then make player poll (if there are more reasonable players at that position). Edited March 28, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 1
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Just looking at the picks so far I think this draft is pretty clearly a draft with around 18/20 consensus players. The first half of the first round is pretty settled. Of the first 19 picks the only one that ranked as a reach against my current board was Mac Jones who went at #15 and I have currently ranked at #32 - which as a reach for a Quarterback is a pretty understandable and normal sort of move. However, from pick 20 on the player rankings by my current board are: 20 - #46 21 - #41 22 - #18 23 - #52 24 - #55 25 - #16 26 - #51 27 - #42 28 - #25 I don't say any of that to have a dig at any of the guys as GMs for those teams. I'd be pretty surprised if Chazz Surratt or Javonta Williams ended up as first round picks but I think all of the guys people have taken in those spots have at least some chance to be first rounders. Rather, my point is when people ask me the question - as they seem to every year - "there are 32 picks in round 1 how can you say you only have 17 or 18 first round grades?" my answer is because there is a clear drop off in talent. There is a group of guys in every draft who are absolutely clear first round talents and are generally, especially for non-QBs, pretty scheme agnostic..... in a really good year that number is low 20s... most years it's high teens. The next group of players that comes after that generally there is a lot more divergence not just from amateur graders like me or the network talking heads but from teams too. I take someone like Asante Samuel who I discussed elsewhere earlier as an example. I imagine he is a lot higher on Tampa's board than on Buffalo's. It becomes very much about scheme and fit. Same with someone like Jayson Oweh from Penn State - great testing numbers at his pro day but there will still be 4 man front teams who look at him and conclude "too small to be an every down player" and drop him down the board because of it. 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: From what I read on TBD: WR Toney, Bateman, Moore RB Harris, Etienne TE: Freiermuth OT: Mayfield OG: Davis DE: Phillips, Oweh, Ossai, Basham LB: Owusu-Koramoah CB: Stokes, Samuel I know that is too much overall but all these guys were discussed a lot (except maybe Bateman/JOK who were mocked higher). I know it will not happen, but I suggest to make position poll (with these or other names in brackets), and then make player poll (if there are more reasonable players at that position). Toney is interesting, I think he could be great for GB, but he seems a little to busty for my likes for a team that needs to not miss
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have him as #5 too. EDIT: Not sure how people have suddenly propelled Stokes over him. Especially for our D. Speed, height and length galore. If Newsome is gone I could see us drafting him @30. He’s really the only other corner out of the top 4 that I could see Beane selecting @30. He certainly won’t be there @ 62 and might get snagged if we trade back a few spots to acquire an additional pick while grabbing the best CB available 1
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly JOK is sticking out so far on my board that I almost feel like a poll is offensive 😛 The top 5 BPA by my board FWIW is: 1. JOK 2. Christian Barmore 3. Kadarius Toney 4. Alex Leatherwood 5. Travis Etienne
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Virgil said: @Reed83HOF @YoloinOhio @whatdrought Who you got for BPA? I’m going to make the poll shortly If you wanted to put down 5: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Kadarius Toney Travis Etienne Najee Harris Jaelan Phillips I think those are the 5 consensus best players available. Edited March 28, 2021 by HappyDays 1
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: a DL perhaps like Levi Onwuzurike Please no
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If you wanted to put down 5: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Kadarious Toney Travis Etienne Najee Harris Jaelan Phillips I think those are the 5 consensus best players available. I’m going to do a top 10. Top 2 at stated positions or interest
Bill from NYC Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: JOK is sticking out so far on my board that I almost feel like a poll is offensive 😛 The top 5 BPA by my board FWIW is: 1. JOK 2. Christian Barmore 3. Kadarius Toney 4. Alex Leatherwood 5. Travis Etienne Barmore was picked at 29. 1
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