DolFAN93 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:04 PM, mannc said: That was different. It was an awful draft. Hope you enjoyed your Dion Jordan experience..😀 Expand True. I just don't think any team was getting a haul like the Colts did. It would've happened already. The absolute worst experience! He had potential but they just couldn't figure out what to do with him.
Bleedingreennc Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 6:51 PM, mannc said: You don’t think SF traded up for a QB? Expand Lance or Fields, Wilson is going to be gone at 2. 1
whatdrought Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Guarantees them their choice of 2-4 of: Pitts, Chase, Smith, and Waddle.
The Jokeman Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 5:50 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I find it so weird that NFL teams seem to place so little value on 1st round picks. Teams just giving them away like nothing. Expand 1st round picks on the whole are over rated. Look how many we've had that busted. The key to building is getting contributors in later rounds see Gabe Davis, Tyler Bass, Matt Milano etc. 1
The Jokeman Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 6:48 PM, 4merper4mer said: Moving from12 to 6 seems like a QB move but that makes no sense because the had 3. Unless they really like a QB and are REALLY confident he will last until 6, my guess is WR. There are 3 really highly rated WRs right? Jake Lock? You’re confusing Drew Lock and Jay Clocker. Expand Maybe he meant Jake Locker of the Titans?
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:07 PM, PrimeTime101 said: NO this statement has nothing to do with your originally that you would NEVER waste first round picks on TE.. Glad your not a gm Expand I don't like TE's in the first - you didn't really convince me. Especially when Kittle, Waller, Gronk, Kelce, Ertz were not 1st round picks. Neither were Geisicki, Goedert, Andrews, Jonnu smith, Henry, Hooper. Also - TE's rarely have an impact in their rookie year. I'm sure there's examples but usually there's a bit of a development curve. Would I take pitts at 30? Probably - but he won't be there anyway. But 30 is barely a 1st round pick. A TE at 4 or 5 would be like the highest drafted TE ever (I think davis and winslow were picked at 6). On 3/26/2021 at 7:14 PM, DolFAN93 said: True. I just don't think any team was getting a haul like the Colts did. It would've happened already. The absolute worst experience! He had potential but they just couldn't figure out what to do with him. Expand Had that Maybin syndrome - he didn't really seem to have a passion for football.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 7:47 PM, The Jokeman said: 1st round picks on the whole are over rated. Look how many we've had that busted. The key to building is getting contributors in later rounds see Gabe Davis, Tyler Bass, Matt Milano etc. Expand In the past i always preached higher ceiling BPA because the team lacked stars. Now the team has several in Allen, Diggs, Tre. Now a lower floor player who can contribute in 2021 is also in the cards. I think a big nickel player is something to look at in rounds 2-3. I'd think the same at CB opposite tre, or offensive line. I'm not super sold on a running back in the first, but its one of those see how it falls situations. If there isn't a player you love in the first, try and move back.
NewEra Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) On 3/26/2021 at 5:34 PM, jkeerie said: Miami is going after Pitts at TE. Expand No chance he’s there. id bet it’s Micah Parsons.....or whoever is left over from Davonta/waddle....if one is left over. Slater/darrisaw possible Edited March 26, 2021 by NewEra
billsfan89 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 5:40 PM, mannc said: I don't think that's very good value. A first in 2023 is worth about a third round pick this April, and the Niners are likely to be picking late for the forseeable future. Expand The NFL is far too volatile to say any team is picking late 2 years from now.
DCOrange Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:23 PM, NewEra said: No chance he’s there. id bet it’s Micah Parsons.....or whoever is left over from Davonta/waddle....if one is left over. Slater/darrisaw possible Expand There is definitely a chance. In all likelihood, the QBs are going top 4. Then it comes down to Sewell, Pitts, and Chase at #5 and Cinci could go with any of those guys there.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Miami is dumb to move back up to 6, the guy that get at 6 or 12 wont be much different, rather have two first round picks for two years. 1
NewEra Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:29 PM, DCOrange said: There is definitely a chance. In all likelihood, the QBs are going top 4. Then it comes down to Sewell, Pitts, and Chase at #5 and Cinci could go with any of those guys there. Expand Ok, we’ll see
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: Miami is dumb to move back up to 6, the guy that get at 6 or 12 wont be much different, rather have two first round picks for two years. Expand If you believe in chase/smith at a tier above the rest - you go back up to guarantee one.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:40 PM, dneveu said: If you believe in chase/smith at a tier above the rest - you go back up to guarantee one. Expand There are a ton of good WRs, not the move id make ,but the less picks for Miami the better.
jkeerie Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:23 PM, NewEra said: No chance he’s there. id bet it’s Micah Parsons.....or whoever is left over from Davonta/waddle....if one is left over. Slater/darrisaw possible Expand First four picks have a good chance to be QBs. Definitely the first 3. That leaves two teams maximally to pick a non QB ahead of the Dolphins, so Pitts could fall to them. If not, they'll have their choice of top receivers. They could also go Edge. If they are going all in on Tua this year, getting him the best offensive weapons would be a priority. 1
TFBillsfan Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On paper Miami is positioned to add significant talent with their draft capital over the next few years. If Tua doesn’t play well this year, one would think they’ll be very aggressive to get a QB next year. Also, Jimmy G could very well move back the to Patriots which would be a big upgrade over Cam. Bottomline, I expect the AFC East to be much tougher going forward. Jets are still TBD until they get their QB. 1
Inigo Montoya Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 I hope this takes Miami out of the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes. That new Miami pick at #6 isn't going to get the Texans one of the top QBs this year and I can't imagine the Texans would be excited to get Tua from the Phins as part of a trade. Overall take away.... Good news for us. 1
PrimeTime101 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 8:12 PM, dneveu said: I don't like TE's in the first - you didn't really convince me. Especially when Kittle, Waller, Gronk, Kelce, Ertz were not 1st round picks. Neither were Geisicki, Goedert, Andrews, Jonnu smith, Henry, Hooper. Also - TE's rarely have an impact in their rookie year. I'm sure there's examples but usually there's a bit of a development curve. Would I take pitts at 30? Probably - but he won't be there anyway. But 30 is barely a 1st round pick. A TE at 4 or 5 would be like the highest drafted TE ever (I think davis and winslow were picked at 6). Expand this is so wrong it is not even funny.. How many other TE's were picked in same rounds... Changing the names and going different directions from your original statement is not even funny. You said you would never pick a TE in the first period... but the 30th pick is barely a first? Just stop.. Please... Your posts have changed so many directions.. I don't care IF i convince you... I was naming something factual at players net worth for the talent. Shade
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 10:16 PM, PrimeTime101 said: this is so wrong it is not even funny.. How many other TE's were picked in same rounds... Changing the names and going different directions from your original statement is not even funny. You said you would never pick a TE in the first period... but the 30th pick is barely a first? Just stop.. Please... Your posts have changed so many directions.. I don't care IF i convince you... I was naming something factual at players net worth for the talent. Shade Expand What did I say that was wrong? That's a list of good tight ends, taken outside the first. Maybe Hockenson will be the best tight end in the league, but through 2 years he did not boost their offense from the bottom 3rd in the league. Same with fant, Ebron, Hurst etc. The 30th pick is the 3rd to last 1st round pick. It has a massively different value than pick 4 or 5. That is not arguable. Anyway, I'm ignoring you so don't bother responding. 1
The Jokeman Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) On 3/26/2021 at 6:00 PM, MAJBobby said: Yep 6. Perfect spot for their target Micah Parsons. Micah Parsons at 6. Just watch and see and finally get an NFL LBer they have been looking for, for almost a Decade. WR will maybe come with their 18th pick. Expand Parsons make sense, as without Van Noy or Lawson could add some pass rush and put Ogbah at DE. Edited March 27, 2021 by The Jokeman
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