BringBackFergy Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Do you think whoever killed Sean Taylor is involved in this? Some sort of serial DB culprit? I’m boning up on my investigative skills. Haven’t come across any DB cases on “First 48”. Entirely possible because there’s a Cleveland police episode on right now. 1
Dukestreetking Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 I actually have been a (certain type) of investigator, though mostly overseas stuff. So, everything I say MUST be true. /s I'll bottom line it: everyone in this country (should) damn well know you don't "receive" a firearm--gift, purchase, whatever--from some dude without paperwork. Neighbor, friend, uncle, third cousin, joey bag o' donuts... doesn't matter. Form 4473 via an FFL my friends. Yes, there are complicated exceptions by state, but this is the basic standard. I ain't saying he's "guilty" but let's just make a fair assumption that it's not a good (legal) look. 2
HOUSE Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Doesn't everyone in Cleveland drive around town with a stolen gun? Nothing to see here, move on.... Edited March 26, 2021 by HOUSE 1 7
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: I accept your nomination and will carry out my duties with the utmost patience and snark (especially if @ExiledInIllinois tries to sidetrack this thread with Suez Canal data) Exactamundo!! The boat is still stuck! Check it out: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:32.579/centery:30.013/zoom:14 1
BringBackFergy Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The boat is still stuck! Check it out: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:32.579/centery:30.013/zoom:14 Warning point issued. 2 1
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said: I actually have been a (certain type) of investigator, though mostly overseas stuff. So, everything I say MUST be true. /s I'll bottom line it: everyone in this country (should) damn well know you don't "receive" a firearm--gift, purchase, whatever--from some dude without paperwork. Neighbor, friend, uncle, third cousin, joey bag o' donuts... doesn't matter. Form 4473 via an FFL my friends. Yes, there are complicated exceptions by state, but this is the basic standard. I ain't saying he's "guilty" but let's just make a fair assumption that it's not a good (legal) look. I’m calling BS. I’ve been in A LOT of Fantasy Football Leagues and NOT ONE of them had a form 4473. Some of them get pretty complicated bidding on free agents and stuff but there were never any government forms. 1 1
Coastie Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said: I'll bottom line it: everyone in this country (should) damn well know you don't "receive" a firearm--gift, purchase, whatever--from some dude without paperwork. Very simple in Kentucky. Do you know they are a felon? No? Then no paperwork transfer is legal. 1 1
JimmyNoodles Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Augie said: The most important thing is we immediately determine guilt or innocence, then we can go about the business of determining what the heck happened! He's a guilty bastard!! I'm pretty sure. 1
Dukestreetking Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Coastie said: Very simple in Kentucky. Do you know they are a felon? No? Then no paperwork transfer is legal. Fair point, and I realize KY is a "free state", as I lived there for a few years. And, this is precisely why I didn't get into all the state exceptions, but named a basic standard. But, further still, you have to understand how LE investigates this. They will bust you if they want, even in KY. Yes, "known or suspected felon" for buyer is the standard for private sale, but the obverse is also true. They (esp under fed investigation) will nail you if you have reasonable belief the seller is "known or suspected"...on the basis of criminal conspiracy. Plus, there are specific laws re car transport, which I will not get into. Don't get me wrong: I own an armory for a reinforced platoon, but I've obtained everything with extra legal caution. And, besides, I don't think we're talking about KY wrt to Mr. Lattimore. Anyway, I'll stop here, as this is not the place to deep dive into gun law or LE. 1
H2o Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Exactamundo!! Am I the only one that read this and immediately thought Lattimore was being declared "Excommunicado"? Edited March 26, 2021 by H2o 1 2
Big Turk Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: honestly, for all involved, I think the bigger question is who he was associated with for a gang task force to nab him. making a shady purchase is one thing, but being in a gang related crowd when back home in the offseason could be a solid red flag Happens a lot more than people realize. A lot of these players are from rough areas and those guys are "their boys" who they hang out with in the offseason. 1 2
wppete Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Possession of a stolen gun???? WTF is wrong with some of these football players? Criminality. Unbelievable! Marshon Lattimore allegedly had a stolen gun in his possession https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/marshon-lattimore-allegedly-had-a-stolen-gun-in-his-possession/
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 According to Lattimore's attorney, it's a misunderstanding, nothing to see here: https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/26/saints-marshon-lattimore-arrest-attorney-statement/ Quote Mr. Lattimore, a proud Cleveland native with no prior criminal record or history, is fully cooperating with law enforcement’s investigation of this matter. He was a passenger in a vehicle that was stopped by police and was arrested without incident and was not formally charged. We believe that this was a misunderstanding, and that this will become even clearer as new information becomes available and is shared with the authorities. Quote Ohio law requires that citizens carrying concealed firearms during a traffic stop must inform police of it, which is what Lattimore is accused of not doing, and which is a first-degree misdemeanor. Conditions for possessing stolen property are a little more murky, but if the value of stolen goods exceeds $1,000, it would change from a misdemeanor to a felony. 2
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: This is gonna be a great thread. Calling all TBD sleuths!! We need fingerprint experts, forensic analysis, preferably some with Miranda warning experience. Did he do it? Was he framed? Honest mistake? I’m saying this reaches 34 pages and surpasses “Ed Oliver DWI” and “Antonio Brown is BatChit Crazy” expert discussions. At your service my dear fellow, I have come to the conclusion that Lattimore is innocent and will have charges dropped.
Don Otreply Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: “Fencing” implies he knew the merchandise was stolen. Try again. It was sarcasm Ferg... 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: I’m calling BS. I’ve been in A LOT of Fantasy Football Leagues and NOT ONE of them had a form 4473. Some of them get pretty complicated bidding on free agents and stuff but there were never any government forms. Is that like a TPS form? Asking for a friend...
Dukestreetking Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 6:04 PM, Don Otreply said: It was sarcasm Ferg... Is that like a TPS form? Asking for a friend... Let me paraphrase current, apparent POTUS: This is TPS on steroids!
PetermansRedemption Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 12:56 PM, H2o said: Apparently it was a stolen gun. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/marshon-lattimore-allegedly-had-a-stolen-gun-in-his-possession/ What in the world. Guy makes millions and can’t legally purchase a firearm?!
Albany,n.y. Posted April 5, 2021 Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 6:00 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Columbo NEVER forgot. 1
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