IronyAbounds Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everything-that-could-go-wrong-for-the-buffalo-sabres-has-gone-wrong/?ex_cid=538twitter No, this isn't a post about the Sabres, per se, it is the cautionary tale for the Bills. As the Sabres' horrendous season starkly demonstrates, improvement and optimistic signs of growth in one season do automatically translate to continued improvement and growth in the next. Everyone expected the Sabres to be better this year, but as the article points out a multitude of factors, some random, others not, obliterated the hoped for playoff push. Similarly, the reasonable expectation is that the Bills will be better this year and could easily be Super Bowl contenders. Yet, all it might take is a single injury (e.g., Allen) and the best laid plans are demolished. Covid could also continue to have some effect on the season. You always have to have an eye on the future in the NFL or any sport, but it is also important to seize every opportunity to win now (which is why the KC loss was hard to stomach). It's a difficult balancing act, and so far Beane seems to have done a good job. I'm very hopeful for 2021, but fingers crossed that the Sabres' experience won't be repeated by the Bills. 7 2
ColoradoBills Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I doubt extremely that the Bills will be sucking sewer water at the bottom of the NFL like the Sabres are in the NHL. 4 1 3
billsfanmiamioh Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I think most realistic Sabres fans thought the absolute best this squad could do was “hang around” the last playoff spots. The core is rotten and has been for some time. I see the point you’re making, but I don’t think this years’ Sabres are a good way to illustrate it. 1 1 3 2
MJS Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 That's a weak correlation. The Bills and Sabres haven't been a similar trajectory at all. 3 1 2
Seasons1992 Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I doubt extremely that the Bills will be sucking sewer water at the bottom of the NFL like the Sabres are in the NHL. Sewer water takes GREAT offense to this analogy. 4
Aussie Joe Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 The Future is not certain. Never knew... 1 1 4
ColoradoBills Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Seasons1992 said: Sewer water takes GREAT offense to this analogy. I buy Center Ice every year and I have watched most of their games this season and will watch them play the Penguins tonight! I agree with your reply!
Freddie's Dead Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) The Sabres are at an historically ridiculous level of suckitude. The Bills were NEVER that bad. Mediocre, but not absolute bottom of the NFL bad, as the Sabres are bottom of the NHL BAD!! Eichel should be traded for a real NHL goalie, tear it down to the studs, and rebuild around what's between the pipes. There are no parallels between the Bills and Sabres, none. Edited March 24, 2021 by Freddie's Dead 1 1
Numark3 Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 As a die hard sabres fan, that time sucked with or without eichel. His injury didn’t doom them. I mean, it certainly hurt. But no relevance to the bills
HOUSE Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I buy Center Ice every year and I have watched most of their games this season and will watch them play the Penguins tonight! I agree with your reply! I have you beat, I have Center Ice, watch every game AND will not sleep through tonight's game 1
mjd1001 Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I agree with your premise. There doesn't have to be a direct correlation between the Sabres and the Bills.....the idea is that....things happen. Every single team in any sport can have a season that is below expetcations. The difference is....'below expectations for the Sabres turns out to be historically bad because of where they started from. The Bills are not likely to have that kind of season...but, there is always a chance they are going to be a certain level below expectations. With that team it could be a .500 record and fighting for a wild card spot. I'm not saying that is my prediction, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities.
TBBills Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 The lesson is rock bottom can be rewritten if you just try hard enough.
ColoradoBills Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I have you beat, I have Center Ice, watch every game AND will not sleep through tonight's game That's hard core self abuse. 2
I'm Spartacus Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 The "lesson" might be, that the Pegula's finally fell into LUCK concerning the Bills (McDermott & Bean). Prior to them the Pegula's were striking out with their GM & Coaching search. With the Sabres, they have not hired the right people to run the hockey organization. Are they still hoping for those "lucky" hires??? All I know is that IMHO they do NOT know how to run a sports franchise, particularly the Sabres. Thank God they struck gold with McBean! 1 2
Beast Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Yes. McDermott's first speech during training camp will probably focus on let's not be like the Sabres. He'll just make sure Terry and Kim aren't in earshot. 7 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: The "lesson" might be, that the Pegula's finally fell into LUCK concerning the Bills (McDermott & Bean). Prior to them the Pegula's were striking out with their GM & Coaching search. With the Sabres, they have not hired the right people to run the hockey organization. Are they still hoping for those "lucky" hires??? All I know is that IMHO they do NOT know how to run a sports franchise, particularly the Sabres. Thank God they struck gold with McBean! The Pegula's have made one GM hire (Beane) with the Bills and two HC hires (Ryan and McDermott) so I don't know where your information is coming from that they were "striking out" with their HC and GM searches. And, what are you basing their "LUCK" of getting it right with Beane and McDermott on? The luck narrative you and others throw around is straight up bull####. Edited March 24, 2021 by Beast 1
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 So the Bills, who have really good players and coaches, are supposed to learn a lesson from the Sabres about how not to have really bad players and coaches? 1 1
I'm Spartacus Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Beast said: Yes. McDermott's first speech during training camp will probably focus on let's not be like the Sabres. He'll just make sure Terry and Kim aren't in earshot. The Pegula's have made one GM hire (Beane) with the Bills and two HC hires (Ryan and McDermott) so I don't know where your information is coming from that they were "striking out" with their HC and GM searches. Rex Ryan and Anthony Lynn, then McDermott Doug Whaley, then Beane 1
nucci Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: The Sabres are at an historically ridiculous level of suckitude. The Bills were NEVER that bad. Mediocre, but not absolute bottom of the NFL bad, as the Sabres are bottom of the NHL BAD!! Eichel should be traded for a real NHL goalie, tear it down to the studs, and rebuild around what's between the pipes. There are no parallels between the Bills and Sabres, none. How far back do you want to go? The Bills have been at the absolute bottom many times 2
Figster Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I doubt extremely that the Bills will be sucking sewer water at the bottom of the NFL like the Sabres are in the NHL. I think Trubisky assures us of that IMO. Bills GM Brandon Beane making moves that spells/smells Championship baby! McD's going to coach the D up regardless... On a side note the difference in how make up games are scheduled are much more harder to handle in the NHL. (vs NFL) Edited March 24, 2021 by Figster
Beast Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Rex Ryan and Anthony Lynn, then McDermott Doug Whaley, then Beane Lynn? Give me a feeaking break. He took over as interim. Doug Whaley was on board when Terry Pegula took the team over. 4 2 1
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