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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:


And write an EO making abortion the law of the land and jam pack the court - who cares about the constitution, right?

 

People who support this POS don’t give a fk about the constitution:


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And if the president is supposed to be immune to the law as Trump wants, why shouldn’t Biden just send Seal Team 6 out to take out his political enemies?

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10 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Actually I think slapping Texas back into compliance will be a very popular move. 


This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here..

 

Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. 
 

R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. 
 

Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems.  Look at polling on the border… people have had enough.  It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. 

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Just now, Roundybout said:


And if the president is supposed to be immune to the law as Trump wants, why shouldn’t Biden just send Seal Team 6 out to take out his political enemies?


Exactly. Biden has total immunity EVEN IF IT CROSSES the line <- Trumps words.

 

So yeah - let’s send in ST6 - take out the cult - and make Biden King for life.

 

These idiots never think.

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22 minutes ago, SCBills said:


This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here..

 

Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. 
 

R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. 
 

Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems.  Look at polling on the border… people have had enough.  It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. 


Like I said, then what is stopping Biden from ignoring the SCOTUS ruling on student loans?

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48 minutes ago, SCBills said:


This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here..

 

Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. 
 

R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. 
 

Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems.  Look at polling on the border… people have had enough.  It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. 

Where the Democrats are messing up is, they’re not on point with their messaging that the president is actually trying to put a deal with them on the border
 

The Republicans are using it as a political point they don’t actually want to fix the border. They just want to complain about it.

 

Force their hand

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36 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Like I said, then what is stopping Biden from ignoring the SCOTUS ruling on student loans?


No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. 
 

DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance.

 

If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. 

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:


No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. 
 

DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance.

 

If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. 

He'll do neither.  You're right.  These are minor battles.  The war is the election.  but f'in youngkin!

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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:


No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. 
 

DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance.

 

If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. 


You certainly are kidding yourself if you think the border is going to trump abortion.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

We need both issues.


We do - but women wants their rights back - immigration and the border has been an issue my entire life. Donald Trump didn’t solve it w his first and only four years and unless we bomb South America and not help remediate the issues at the source - people will continue to migrate north.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

unless we bomb South America

or help straighten out south/central america.  never mind, that's not "America First" according to 1/2 the country, but I digress.

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19 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

or help straighten out south/central america.  never mind, that's not "America First" according to 1/2 the country, but I digress.


so we will always have a border issue 

 

f them 

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6 minutes ago, BillStime said:


so we will always have a border issue 

 

f them 

the world is getting smaller by the minute and they insist on xenophobia.  It's f'in craziness.  but it plays well...

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8 hours ago, SCBills said:


No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. 
 

DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance.

 

If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. 


Yeah and I don’t like it. That’s why this needs to be nipped in the bud

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Were the Dems always statist over states or individual rights.  

 

Cause they are now and they seem to be gleefully proud of the parroting 

 

When ideology and band wagoning gets in the way of common sense.  You have what the fed is doing. 

 

What happened to the general welfare of the US citizens?  Left used to bring that up all the time.

 

 

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8 hours ago, BillStime said:


We do - but women wants their rights back - immigration and the border has been an issue my entire life. Donald Trump didn’t solve it w his first and only four years and unless we bomb South America and not help remediate the issues at the source - people will continue to migrate north.

 

 

A lot of migrants aren't coming from South America.  Should we be obliged to "fix" all those countries too?  And what specific things would you suggest we do?

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12 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Where the Democrats are messing up is, they’re not on point with their messaging that the president is actually trying to put a deal with them on the border
 

The Republicans are using it as a political point they don’t actually want to fix the border. They just want to complain about it.

 

Force their hand

 

Then it gets turned back on them when people ask "why do we need to tie this to anything else, like aid for Ukraine"?

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Just now, Doc said:

 

Then it gets turned back on them when people ask "why do we need to tie this to anything else, like aid for Ukraine"?

Nope.  It's how this democracy has survived.  What about compromise do you not understand?  Both sides need to save face.

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