SoCal Deek Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Another classic liberal take on an issue. Sure! This has all been about Biden visiting the border. 😂😂😂 Edited January 8, 2023 by SoCal Deek 1
BillStime Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Another classic liberal take on an issue. Sure! This has all been about Biden visiting the border. 😂😂😂 Shes not wrong
SoCal Deek Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, BillStime said: Shes not wrong Wait….you think the issue is whether Biden knows where Texas is? Okie Dokie 1
BillStime Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Wait….you think the issue is whether Biden knows where Texas is? Okie Dokie Huh
Doc Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Another classic liberal take on an issue. Sure! This has all been about Biden visiting the border. 😂😂😂 IOW stupid. "Oh look, Biden went to the border (after 2 years, 63 weekend visits to Delaware and the House flipping). The Repubs can't use it against him anymore." Clown show. 2 1
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Another classic liberal take on an issue. Sure! This has all been about Biden visiting the border. 😂😂😂 As opposed to the build the wall stupidity? And Mexico will pay for it? 🤣
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, BillStime said: 🎯 Maybe this Kate is a good person but this has nothing to do with emotions. But the progressive-regressive mind defines every issue and event with emotion and feeling so it's only natural they project that view onto everyone else. I think there's a lot of curiosity about the motivation here after ignoring the place for a couple years that suddenly the President and his handlers have decided to take a trip to the border. It looks like to run the victim and blame the other guy play. I have full confidence the Republicans with complete knowledge its coming but will still be woefully unprepared to respond. Edited January 8, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1
T master Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 21 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Another classic liberal take on an issue. Sure! This has all been about Biden visiting the border. 😂😂😂 When it should be why the H has it taken him so long to recognize this & admitting that his policy is what screwed up what progress was made prior to him implementing his new rules which were ignorant . Now he has to spend more money to get it back under some kind of control Biden is a wing nut !!
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, T master said: When it should be why the H has it taken him so long to recognize this & admitting that his policy is what screwed up what progress was made prior to him implementing his new rules which were ignorant . Now he has to spend more money to get it back under some kind of control Biden is a wing nut !! You know its not Biden's fault people want to come here. We are short workers as it is
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You know its not Biden's fault people want to come here. We are short workers as it is We don't need workers. Based on around a 62% workforce participation rate we have plenty of citizens that choose not to enter the workforce because they can get "paid" more through various forms of Federal and State assistance to stay home. Its the classic labor/leisure principle. If you get $15 an hour to stay home all day or $16 to get up at 6 AM every day to work a 40 hour week which would you choose? Also, people at the border are generally presenting themselves, and being processed, as asylum seekers. People fleeing from political persecution or are in danger from one thing or another in their home country. People coming into the country for economic reasons do not qualify to be processed as a person seeking asylum.
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: We don't need workers. Based on around a 62% workforce participation rate we have plenty of citizens that choose not to enter the workforce because they can get "paid" more through various forms of Federal and State assistance to stay home. Its the classic labor/leisure principle. If you get $15 an hour to stay home all day or $16 to get up at 6 AM every day to work a 40 hour week which would you choose? Also, people at the border are generally presenting themselves, and being processed, as asylum seekers. People fleeing from political persecution or are in danger from one thing or another in their home country. People coming into the country for economic reasons do not qualify to be processed as a person seeking asylum. Yes, we do, actually. If people that are here and don't want to work, lets get real workers in. The American workers, mostly from rural areas, are not working for some reason 1
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: We don't need workers. Based on around a 62% workforce participation rate we have plenty of citizens that choose not to enter the workforce because they can get "paid" more through various forms of Federal and State assistance to stay home. Its the classic labor/leisure principle. If you get $15 an hour to stay home all day or $16 to get up at 6 AM every day to work a 40 hour week which would you choose? Also, people at the border are generally presenting themselves, and being processed, as asylum seekers. People fleeing from political persecution or are in danger from one thing or another in their home country. People coming into the country for economic reasons do not qualify to be processed as a person seeking asylum. This is a complicated economic issue but one simple fact remains…you do not simply walk into a sovereign nation wherever and whenever you choose. There isn’t a war going on in Mexico on the other side of the River. These people are not fleeing shelling. They are purposely breaking our laws.
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: This is a complicated economic issue but one simple fact remains…you do not simply walk into a sovereign nation wherever and whenever you choose. There isn’t a war going on in Mexico on the other side of the River. These people are not fleeing shelling. They are purposely breaking our laws. They are fleeing failed states and economic privation. You can't deny that
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They are fleeing failed states and economic privation. You can't deny that I do not deny that. That doesn’t excuse them from breaking international laws.
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I do not deny that. That doesn’t excuse them from breaking international laws. To flee grinding poverty? Yes it does
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: To flee grinding poverty? Yes it does No it doesn’t and never has. Thanks for sharing your true thoughts though. Sheeesh 1
Tiberius Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No it doesn’t and never has. Thanks for sharing your true thoughts though. Sheeesh You sound evil. They are humans who are suffering but you got all you need. Let them eat cake, sniff
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, we do, actually. If people that are here and don't want to work, lets get real workers in. The American workers, mostly from rural areas, are not working for some reason There are work visa programs for admitting foreign workers that match specific skill deficiencies and needs in the economy. Flooding the country in an uncontrolled manner with low skill and mostly uneducated "workers" that may or may not match to "open" jobs which may require all forms of public assistance for the foreseeable future isn't the answer. And as far as American workers, so they don't want to work. If they are of sound mind and body, frankly I don't care what they want. I wouldn't want to work either if I could get all my expenses and bills paid by the taxpayer through public assistance programs. Send me 3 or 4 grand a month and I prove my point. We need to be honest here and start addressing the issues of motivation and incentive regarding work. 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You sound evil. They are humans who are suffering but you got all you need. Let them eat cake, sniff You're position is neither sound nor logical. If every person on Earth that could improve their living standards or life migrated into the U.S. there would be more than 5 Billion people in the country. With the only means test being their claim to asylum. What your suggesting is we should be "compassionate" and welcome that situation. Edited January 9, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills
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