Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, B-Man said: People ARE discussing illegal immigration and it's effects d/t the arrival of a small number in "sanctuary states" you can try and spin it otherwise, but you are wrong. I’ve lived in a border state for almost 40 years. Half of those in an industry driven by illegal immigrants. We’ve been talking about it for decades and nothing has been done about our southern border. If you think stunts like these are going to change things you’re being very naive. Sending them to Kamala’s house is likely the stupidest move. She will probaby dig in her heels and play along with the childish games. The GOP is blowing it BIG time on this one. 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I’ve lived in a border state for almost 40 years. Half of those in an industry driven by illegal immigrants. We’ve been talking about it for decades and nothing has been done about our southern border. If you think stunts like these are going to change things you’re being very naive. Sending them to Kamala’s house is likely the stupidest move. She will probaby dig in her heels and play along with the childish games. The GOP is blowing it BIG time on this one. You’re obviously very passionate about this topic. What’s your solution? Or, do you even acknowledge the problem?
Doc Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I’ve lived in a border state for almost 40 years. Half of those in an industry driven by illegal immigrants. We’ve been talking about it for decades and nothing has been done about our southern border. If you think stunts like these are going to change things you’re being very naive. Sending them to Kamala’s house is likely the stupidest move. She will probaby dig in her heels and play along with the childish games. The GOP is blowing it BIG time on this one. With whom?
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, 716er said: Excellent then! Problem solved. Load up the buses. Let’s roll! 1
Doc Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 Yup, send more buses. Don't overburden the border states any longer. 1
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: You’re obviously very passionate about this topic. What’s your solution? Or, do you even acknowledge the problem? If you’ve been following along I’ve mentioned the problem quite a few times here. I believe earlier today I called it ***** up. And unlike most here I’m all about solutions. So here we go. 1. First and foremost we have to build the wall. Create “funnel points” where we can better control the flow. 2. Once we do that we can begin to process those here, make them legal and maybe sure they pay their fair share. One of the terms of their citizenship is to work and stay free of crime. They begin to live off of our social programs without even looking for work it’s a ticket back “home”. I’m not sure about that one. It may be drastic but hey you asked. 3. Get tough on businesses that knowingly hire illegals. To the point that repeat offenders will be punished financially to the point they gave to close up. For major companies who can absorb the fines as a “cost for doing business” we incrementally increase the fines to the point it doesn’t make financial sense. 4. Work on getting US based companies to move their manufacturing and call centers to places like Mexico and Central America. Help these places thrive so they are no longer the massive shitholes these people are fleeing. 5. Work with Mexico to help them secure their southern border. Many of these illegals are flowing in from south of Mexico 6. Make sure we all vote Democrat that way we’ll be a bigger shithole than where folks are coming from so they stay there. 😁 13 minutes ago, Doc said: With whom? Voters. 🙄 1
B-Man Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 What Joe Biden and the Media Don't Want You to Know About the 'Bused Migrants' Nontroversy In most of the stories that will be written about these events from our supposedly “objective” press, one thing that will undoubtedly be left out will be what led to DeSantis’ and Abbott’s respective decisions and even a year ago to respond accordingly to the Biden administration’s lax border security policies. https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2022/09/15/what-joe-biden-and-the-media-dont-want-you-to-know-about-the-bused-migrants-nontroversy-n627672 . 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: If you’ve been following along I’ve mentioned the problem quite a few times here. I believe earlier today I called it ***** up. And unlike most here I’m all about solutions. So here we go. 1. First and foremost we have to build the wall. Create “funnel points” where we can better control the flow. 2. Once we do that we can begin to process those here, make them legal and maybe sure they pay their fair share. One of the terms of their citizenship is to work and stay free of crime. They begin to live off of our social programs without even looking for work it’s a ticket back “home”. I’m not sure about that one. It may be drastic but hey you asked. 3. Get tough on businesses that knowingly hire illegals. To the point that repeat offenders will be punished financially to the point they gave to close up. For major companies who can absorb the fines as a “cost for doing business” we incrementally increase the fines to the point it doesn’t make financial sense. 4. Work on getting US based companies to move their manufacturing and call centers to places like Mexico and Central America. Help these places thrive so they are no longer the massive shitholes these people are fleeing. 5. Work with Mexico to help them secure their southern border. Many of these illegals are flowing in from south of Mexico 6. Make sure we all vote Democrat that way we’ll be a bigger shithole than where folks are coming from so they stay there. 😁 Voters. 🙄 I like your plan and agree with most of it…as I believe most Americans would or do. (Im not sure I support #4 though. Didn’t we try that already?) 1
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I like your plan and agree with most of it…as I believe most Americans would or do. (Im not sure I support #4 though. Didn’t we try that already?) Thanks. Not sure about #4 being tried before. If so worth a try again. I have no idea of the best way. Imagine if Apple moved they manufacturing from China to Mexico. Almost impossible I would imagine. But start with smaller companies. Textile manufacturing! And call centers in Mexico? I speak Spanglish but not Hindish. 😁 Edited September 15, 2022 by Chef Jim
SoCal Deek Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Thanks. Not sure about #4 being tried before. If so worth a try again. I have no idea of the best way. Imagine if Apple moved they manufacturing from China to Mexico. Almost impossible I would imagine. But start with smaller companies. Textile manufacturing! And call centers in Mexico? I speak Spanglish but not Hindish. 😁 And hey! Don’t be hating on Spanglish. My daughter had a bit part in the film. 😊
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: And hey! Don’t be hating on Spanglish. My daughter had a bit part in the film. 😊 Funny how autocorrect recognizes it as a pinche word. I’ve not worked in a professional kitchen in I’ve 20 years but my kitchen Spanish is still pretty damn fuerte. 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup, send more buses. Don't overburden the border states any longer. Seriously dude. The number of migrants being sent in buses is minuscule compare to the problem. So I guess you’re cool with illegals being in this country?
Doc Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 47 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Seriously dude. The number of migrants being sent in buses is minuscule compare to the problem. So I guess you’re cool with illegals being in this country? No I'm not. But it's not as if they don't get bussed elsewhere, they're being deported. They're here to stay regardless, so might as well relieve the burden on the border states and send them to cities that purportedly welcome them.
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Doc said: No I'm not. But it's not as if they don't get bussed elsewhere, they're being deported. They're here to stay regardless, so might as well relieve the burden on the border states and send them to cities that purportedly welcome them. You seem confused. You're against illegal immigration but you're ok with them being bussed all around the country especially to places where their illegal status is protected. Weird.
B-Man Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: You seem confused. You're against illegal immigration but you're ok with them being bussed all around the country especially to places where their illegal status is protected. Weird. Well, They are two different things so. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Chef Jim Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, B-Man said: Well, They are two different things so. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . How so?
B-Man Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: How so? It is quite obvious. Illegal immigration is the hundreds of thousands who are entering the country without following any laws that are already in place for those trying to get into the U.S. Moving those people who are already in the border states to sanctuary states, and multiple other states, as has been done by the the Biden administration and border governors DeSantis/Abbott is a different action. Just following the "handbook" Make them live by their own rule book. -Saul Alinksy in Rules for Radicals 1 1
B-Man Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) Edited September 15, 2022 by B-Man
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