Combating imaginary racism with actual racism??

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But when a CRT person says the Civil War was caused largely by racism, they are 100% correct, right? 

 

 

No they aren't.  Absolutely not.  

 

The Southern Democrats didn't have to push secession.  

 

Let this sink in.  

 

Lincoln and the incoming Congress in 1861 did not have anywhere near the votes to outlaw or ban slavery.  They were barely able to do it by 1865.  The Emancipation Proclamation didn't do anything other then make the war about ending slavery.   Still needed an amendment.  

 

Also, the same Court that ruled Dred Scott was property, was still made up of those judges.  30 years after the War the SCOTUS in a 7-1 vote will say segregation was Constitutional.   

Point.  They didn't have to secede.  They did anyway because of sectional differences, economics, and political power. 

 

And The North only made the war about ending slavery when it was used as a war measure because they were losing.  

 

So was the North racist?  Was the Democrat Party racist?  And, why would the North even want such racists to be a part of the Union?  Is your mind exploding right now?  

 

These are questions about our past that require deep thought and honest reflection that the Left is incapable of having.   

 

 

 

Because they "history" as well as they do logic, math, and reason.   Which is to say poorly.  

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

No they aren't.  Absolutely not.  

 

The Southern Democrats didn't have to push secession.  

 

Let this sink in.  

 

Lincoln and the incoming Congress in 1861 did not have anywhere near the votes to outlaw or ban slavery.  They were barely able to do it by 1865.  The Emancipation Proclamation didn't do anything other then make the war about ending slavery.   Still needed an amendment.  

 

Also, the same Court that ruled Dred Scott was property, was still made up of those judges.  30 years after the War the SCOTUS in a 7-1 vote will say segregation was Constitutional.   

Point.  They didn't have to secede.  They did anyway because of sectional differences, economics, and political power. 

 

And The North only made the war about ending slavery when it was used as a war measure because they were losing.  

 

So was the North racist?  Was the Democrat Party racist?  And, why would the North even want such racists to be a part of the Union?  Is your mind exploding right now?  

 

These are questions about our past that require deep thought and honest reflection that the Left is incapable of having.   

 

 

 

Because they "history" as well as they do logic, math, and reason.   Which is to say poorly.  

But the South did secede. They did start a war. And racism was their motivating factor 

[Big Blitz]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But the South did secede. They did start a war. And racism was their motivating factor 

 

 

They started the war?  Did they?  

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

They started the war?  Did they?  

Firing on Fort Sumter? Ever hear of that? 

[B-Man]

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

No one is saying that. You guys just live on lies 

[B-Man]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No one is saying that. You guys just live on lies 

 

 

Read more about CRT, educate yourself.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

IF YOU INVENTED A THEORY DESIGNED TO CREATE WHITE SUPREMACY, HOW WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT FROM CRT?  

 

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2021/05/25/hobbles/

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Firing on Fort Sumter? Ever hear of that? 

 

 

Immediate causes.  Background causes.  

 

Shooting first is always something to avoid so that you are absolutely portrayed as the aggressor.  But whatever.  

 

I'm making a point of the complexities the CRT supporters of which I'll assume you are one, just want to sweep under the rug in order to just say white people are all racist.  

 

I guess that includes the ones who fought to end slavery?   

[Tiberius]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Immediate causes.  Background causes.  

 

Shooting first is always something to avoid so that you are absolutely portrayed as the aggressor.  But whatever.  

 

I'm making a point of the complexities the CRT supporters of which I'll assume you are one, just want to sweep under the rug in order to just say white people are all racist.  

 

I guess that includes the ones who fought to end slavery?   

No, all white people are not racist, but the Civil War was started by racists against a government they felt was not racists enough. The north was trying to limit slavery and the South screamed bloody murder and then 650,000 people died. 

 

 

Racism started the most bloody war in American history. Racism is therefore important to study in history 

[Big Blitz]

Just now, Tiberius said:

No, all white people are not racist,

 

Racism is therefore important to study in history 

 

 

 

Then you oppose CRT.

 

I know you feel you must defend all things the right opposes.  Team Blue 4 life!

 

That's unfortunate.  You don't have to you know its OK to say you oppose something your side supports.  

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Then you oppose CRT.

 

I know you feel you must defend all things the right opposes.  Team Blue 4 life!

 

That's unfortunate.  You don't have to you know its OK to say you oppose something your side supports.  

Not sure I follow you. I do know many Conservative refuse to admit the war was even about slavery, so CRT has that advantage of truth about it. 

 

Glad you know the racists waged the worst war in American History, though. 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Racism is therefore important to study in history 

 

 

And it will continue to be,

 

But that is not what CRT is

 

Read more, educate yourself.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Not sure I follow you. I do know many Conservative refuse to admit the war was even about slavery, so CRT has that advantage of truth about it. 

 

Glad you know the racists waged the worst war in American History, though. 

 

 

Do you support CRT or no?

 

We all oppose racism. 

 

CRT is not just "opposing racism."  

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Then you oppose CRT.

 

I know you feel you must defend all things the right opposes.  Team Blue 4 life!

 

That's unfortunate.  You don't have to you know its OK to say you oppose something your side supports.  

Precisely. CRT and BLM go hand in hand. They’re a white hate agenda and a white hate terrorist group being peddled as virtuous. Pretty obvious to anyone who bothers to actually check into it. 

[Tiberius]

8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Do you support CRT or no?

 

We all oppose racism. 

 

CRT is not just "opposing racism."  

I do not support it as I do not know much about it, but I'll add, that if it addresses racism in history, when the many curriculums around the country ignore it, I'll say that it should at least be reviewed. 

 

You seem to be saying that it calls all white people racists. I doubt that. But if you can prove it, go for it. 

 

We do have a very racist history we need to overcome. Ignoring that is wrong 

[Big Blitz]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Not sure I follow you. I do know many Conservative refuse to admit the war was even about slavery, so CRT has that advantage of truth about it. 

 

 

The Lefts infatuation with focusing on the war being about whites fighting to preserve slavery because racism and NOT about whites waging the war to end it tells you all you need to know about they feel about this country.  

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Glad you know the racists waged the worst war in American History, though. 

 

 

Again, whites fought to end it.  

 

 

 

Must be extremely difficult for you to reconcile this.  

 

 

[Tiberius]

11 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Precisely. CRT and BLM go hand in hand. They’re a white hate agenda and a white hate terrorist group being peddled as virtuous. Pretty obvious to anyone who bothers to actually check into it. 

White hate agenda? No. 

 

It seems like anyone that attempts to stop racism gets labeled as a racist by you guys. Now why would that be? 

 

Do you think MLK was a racist? 

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The Lefts infatuation with focusing on the war being about whites fighting to preserve slavery because racism and NOT about whites waging the war to end it tells you all you need to know about they feel about this country.  

 

 

 

 

 

Again, whites fought to end it.  

 

 

 

Must be extremely difficult for you to reconcile this.  

 

 

I don't think you understand what the Civil War was about. 

 

The South was so racists that would destroy the Union. The North was not nearly as racist and wanted to save the Union. Can you understand that? 

[B-Man]

 

 

Christopher Rufo expertly fields CRT proponent Marc Lamont Hill’s ‘what do you like about being white’ question [video]

 

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