Logic Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31121603/new-york-jets-wr-corey-davis-expects-sam-darnold-team-qb-season FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets are keeping their quarterback plans hush-hush, but wide receiver Corey Davis said Tuesday he signed with the team based on the belief that Sam Darnold will return as the starter. "Obviously, I'm coming with my understanding that Sam is the guy," Davis said in Zoom call with reporters. "That doesn't scare me away at all. I've seen Sam do great things and I have all the belief in him. Whatever direction they decide to go, it's on me to make sure that I'm ready." 1 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 They should keep him honestly it's the best thing to do. They're building a better team and culture. 2 3 1
Greg S Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 I think they move on from Sam and take Zach Wilson with the #2 pick. 1 2 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Greg S said: I think they move on from Sam and take Zach Wilson with the #2 pick. They might. Most analysts have Darnold rated higher than Wilson as prospects. But I understand if they want to reboot the QB clock. They get 4-5 years of a QB on a rookie deal vs 1-2 years. Edited March 23, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede
ALF Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Jets could trade down for more picks to rebuild would be the smart move. 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Greg S said: I think they move on from Sam and take Zach Wilson with the #2 pick. Why? Darnold is better than Wilson. 1 1 1
Greg S Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Why? Darnold is better than Wilson. Darnold is terrible. He was making the same mistakes last year that he was in his rookie year. Granted he was a crap team and Gase sucked as a HC but he has to share some of the blame. Look at how Allen has progressed. Yes he is on a better team but Josh worked extremely hard to improve his game. That is what his coaches and teammates say. The game has slowed down for Josh. For Darnold it looks like it hasn't. 1 2
The Jokeman Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why? Darnold is better than Wilson. Wilson is new and shiny, there's a new GM/HC that didn't draft Darnold. While I'm not sold on Wilson I think Darnold has shown he doesn't have the "it" in him to be a starting QB at this time. Maybe a change of scenery do him wonders.
billsfan89 Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 I like Darnold but him being on the last year of his rookie deal makes him not fit the Jets rebuilding timeline. The Jets are best off drafting a rookie at pick 2 and trading Darnold for a pick or two and using those picks and their other picks to build around a rookie who will fit the Jets 3 year rebuild. Unless Darnold wants to sign a mini extension at a low ball rate I don’t see him fitting what they want to do which is a full on rebuild. 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Wilson is new and shiny, there's a new GM/HC that didn't draft Darnold. While I'm not sold on Wilson I think Darnold has shown he doesn't have the "it" in him to be a starting QB at this time. Maybe a change of scenery do him wonders. I think Darnold can be a starter but he needs a different situation. I would like to see him end up on a team with a vet Qb in place and take over a better team in a year or two.
OldTimer1960 Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Greg S said: Darnold is terrible. He was making the same mistakes last year that he was in his rookie year. Granted he was a crap team and Gase sucked as a HC but he has to share some of the blame. Look at how Allen has progressed. Yes he is on a better team but Josh worked extremely hard to improve his game. That is what his coaches and teammates say. The game has slowed down for Josh. For Darnold it looks like it hasn't. The difference between a QB looking “ok” with poor to middling receivers and very good with some real weapons can be surprising. See how much better Josh Allen was when he got some receivers who could get open frequently?
bigK14094 Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Darnold can play in the NFL. I am a little surprised there hasn't been a deal....moving him. Of course, I recall Aaron Roger spent a couple of seasons on the bench watching Brett Farve. Then again, Darnold is not Farve........ 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Greg S said: Darnold is terrible. He was making the same mistakes last year that he was in his rookie year. Granted he was a crap team and Gase sucked as a HC but he has to share some of the blame. Look at how Allen has progressed. Yes he is on a better team but Josh worked extremely hard to improve his game. That is what his coaches and teammates say. The game has slowed down for Josh. For Darnold it looks like it hasn't. The Jets suck. Picking some Johnny come lately from BYU won't change that. Why would he thrive on that Jets team? Also, no point comparing the Jets to the Bills in any way--it doesn't help your argument. 30 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Wilson is new and shiny, there's a new GM/HC that didn't draft Darnold. While I'm not sold on Wilson I think Darnold has shown he doesn't have the "it" in him to be a starting QB at this time. Maybe a change of scenery do him wonders. I think he would be just fine on the Bills if he and Josh's situations had flipped. Again, trading him to bring in another rookie makes little sense. 4
blacklabel Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Darnold can play in the NFL. I am a little surprised there hasn't been a deal....moving him. Of course, I recall Aaron Roger spent a couple of seasons on the bench watching Brett Farve. Then again, Darnold is not Farve........ There's a difference in perception of Darnold between the analysts/media and coaches/execs/scouts in the league. This guy here asked around and this was one of the responses: He goes on to highlight how a former GM would have Darnold as QB4 in this draft class. He also points out how guys like Fitz and Tyrod were signed and a trade for Wentz happened while there's been zero on any sort of news of Darnold being moved. I didn't really see it when he was coming out of USC. He's accurate, but I think his arm, his reading of the defense and his pocket awareness are all average or below. I also don't think he has that hyped up sense of competitiveness you see in a lot of guys. It doesn't look like teammates gravitate towards him or rally around him. He's just kinda there. I'm sure he's a good kid and a nice guy I just think he ended up getting a bit overrated. 3 1
NewEra Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 I really hope so. Zach Wilson is legit. I hope he goes to the nfc 1
Greg S Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The Jets suck. Picking some Johnny come lately from BYU won't change that. Why would he thrive on that Jets team? Also, no point comparing the Jets to the Bills in any way--it doesn't help your argument. I think he would be just fine on the Bills if he and Josh's situations had flipped. Again, trading him to bring in another rookie makes little sense. Joe Douglas didn't draft him and they have a new coaching staff. It does make sense if they want to move on from Darnold and start over. They would get Wilson/Fields on a rookie deal. They might not want to pick up the option of Darnold. Plus he sucks. Ask any Jets fan. I have seasons to the Jets so I have seen him plenty. He sucks.
Bangarang Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Should probably give Darnold a massive extension as to not disappoint Davis. 2
TBBills Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 This is good news for the Bills. 26 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Darnold can play in the NFL. I am a little surprised there hasn't been a deal....moving him. Of course, I recall Aaron Roger spent a couple of seasons on the bench watching Brett Farve. Then again, Darnold is not Farve........ Darnold isn't cut out for the NFL, he has zero leadership skills you can tell that int he field and in his press conferences. He just isn't a good QB.
thenorthremembers Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 That tells me two things: A. The Jets havent received a decent offer for Darnold B. The Jets think the combination of Darnold and a rookie is better than what they can get in free agency. There is absolutely no way the Jets dont pick a Quarterback at #2. Darnold will start the year if he can beat out the rookie, and will be a free agent next year. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The Jets suck. Picking some Johnny come lately from BYU won't change that. Why would he thrive on that Jets team? Also, no point comparing the Jets to the Bills in any way--it doesn't help your argument. I think he would be just fine on the Bills if he and Josh's situations had flipped. Again, trading him to bring in another rookie makes little sense. If the FO sees more potential in Wilson than Darnold, then yes, it makes sense. If they see a future with Darnold, then no, it wouldn't make any sense. 9 minutes ago, TBBills said: This is good news for the Bills. Darnold isn't cut out for the NFL, he has zero leadership skills you can tell that int he field and in his press conferences. He just isn't a good QB. The one thing I noticed about Darnold is he has the overwhelmed look a lot. 1
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