Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: They want to cause as much damage as possible. Hence why that weapon was chosen. More damage. More lethal. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/ 1
BillStime Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hence why that weapon was chosen. More damage. More lethal. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/ Good article. High-velocity weapons have no place in the hands of civilians. 1
T&C Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Good article. High-velocity weapons have no place in the hands of civilians. A .22 pistol doesn't deliver lead at a high velocity?
Motorin' Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Disagee. They want to cause as much damage as possible. You really think the FedEx guy would have shot fewer is he had a handgun? This is not a perfect analogy but it’s kind of like reducing drunk driving deaths by making whiskey illegal. So no guns or ammo available online and the deranged mind just goes “oh well I’ll just watch TV”. I really think a number of the most notorious mass shooters, without access to guns via the internet, would have had to keep living out their violent fantasies in their head and through their video games. Certainly not all, but a significant number. 2
BillStime Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, T&C said: A .22 pistol doesn't deliver lead at a high velocity? Did you read the article
SoTier Posted April 17, 2021 Author Posted April 17, 2021 It's generally been illegal for civilians to own fully automatic weapons since the 1930s IIRC. Why is that? Because back in the 1920s gangsters, bank robbers, and other assorted criminals were using them to kill bystanders, LEOs, rivals, and just about anybody who crossed them, and Congress did the responsible thing and banned them for most civilians. This was at a time when gun ownership among Americans was significantly more widespread than it is today. The 1930s laws didn't stop the criminals from killing people but it lessened the carnage. It's time for Congress to do its job and at least lessen the carnage. 1 1
Niagara Bill Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Chef Jim said: You get right on that great idea of yours. Impossible. Too many people still living in 1780. (Yes I know 1776 but let's let the ink dry)
SoTier Posted April 18, 2021 Author Posted April 18, 2021 Another mass shooting, the 47th since March 16, 2020, occurred early this morning in a Kenosha, Wisconsin tavern. 3 dead, 2 injured. The shooter is still at large. Authorities believe it was a targeted shooting not a random one.
Chef Jim Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 19 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hence why that weapon was chosen. More damage. More lethal. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/ I hope you're not thinking that we ban these weapons that mass killings will go away or be greatly reduced. If so you're in for some real disappointment. 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Another mass shooting, the 47th since March 16, 2020, occurred early this morning in a Kenosha, Wisconsin tavern. 3 dead, 2 injured. The shooter is still at large. Authorities believe it was a targeted shooting not a random one. I'm not saying this is what happened but how many of the "mass" shootings are gang/drug turf wars? 19 hours ago, Motorin' said: I really think a number of the most notorious mass shooters, without access to guns via the internet, would have had to keep living out their violent fantasies in their head and through their video games. Certainly not all, but a significant number. Yes, because online is the only place the demented people can get weapons. Crazy gonna crazy. 19 hours ago, BillStime said: Good article. High-velocity weapons have no place in the hands of civilians. So you're concerned about how gruesome the wound is? Dead is dead.
Chef Jim Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 7:01 AM, oldmanfan said: Six or less in a minute just as an example. So you're recommending we go back to muzzle loaders? 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I hope you're not thinking that we ban these weapons that mass killings will go away or be greatly reduced. If so you're in for some real disappointment. No we already agreed there is no fix and The only path is mitigation. Your background check idea may be helpful, as may reducing lethality of the weapons available. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: No we already agreed there is no fix and The only path is mitigation. Your background check idea may be helpful, as may reducing lethality of the weapons available. People always get their priorities ***** up. Ban the "scary" weapons then deal with mental illness. Fix immigration then protect the border. A wise man once said "we don't do these things because they are easy. We do these things because they are hard." 1
Tiberius Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 Two legally purchased weapons of mass destruction used to slaughter eight people, wound several more and hurt countless family member's lives, yet the families can't sue the manufacturers of these weapons of mass killing? That's insane. Change the law!
B-Man Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 ANOTHER SHOOTING, ANOTHER FAKE NARRATIVE: A Recipe for More Tragedy. The media’s rush to judgment on the Adam Toledo shooting in Chicago will come with a high cost. Rafael Mangual’s frame-by-frame analysis of the video footage shows what’s wrong with the story being spun by the media and politicians. https://www.city-journal.org/adam-toledo-shooting
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 6 hours ago, SoTier said: Another mass shooting, the 47th since March 16, 2020, occurred early this morning in a Kenosha, Wisconsin tavern. 3 dead, 2 injured. The shooter is still at large. Authorities believe it was a targeted shooting not a random one. Well, I got the sh!t kicked out of me in Wisconsin once. Forget it.
T&C Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: Two legally purchased weapons of mass destruction used to slaughter eight people, wound several more and hurt countless family member's lives, yet the families can't sue the manufacturers of these weapons of mass killing? That's insane. Change the law! And Ban Video Games! What nonsense... Any gun just sits there until someone picks it up. Its not the guns lol... its the people who pick them up. As far as "weapons of mass destruction" goes... anyone with a good aim and a bad heart can kill 8 people with a .22 rifle. Its not the guns man.
Boatdrinks Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 It seems that Indiana already has a “ red flag law” that’s been on the books for 15 years. Amazingly, it didn’t work. Doesn’t appear that a waiting period would do much in the FedEx shooting as the guns were purchased last July and last September.
Tiberius Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, T&C said: And Ban Video Games! What nonsense... Any gun just sits there until someone picks it up. Its not the guns lol... its the people who pick them up. As far as "weapons of mass destruction" goes... anyone with a good aim and a bad heart can kill 8 people with a .22 rifle. Its not the guns man. Who has committed a mass killing with a video game.? At least make decent arguments. Those guns are made made to kill people. Sue the sh it out of those companies! All the misery and death those those things are causing, and you people are just l8ke, oh well, no ones fault. Screw that. A .22, ya right 1
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